how much to give to 5meodmt first timers?

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  1. PYITE

    PYITE Newbie

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    i have a small amount of 5-meo-dmt left over from a while ago, and some friends of mine expressed intrest in giving it a try.



    one of them has tried it before (but was on other drugs so doesnt
    remember), the other two have not. the first time i tried it was when i
    was given a filled pipe at a concert, so i have no way of know ing what
    i started with (and what would be an appropiate *beginner* dose, and to
    be honest i dont want to underestimate because of erowid and feel like
    i cheated them)



    since its all i have left, they want to give me $20 for the baggie that
    ill give them (with three "doses" in it), so i want to take this into
    account as well.



    any recommendations on what i should measure out per person as an
    appropiate amount for a first timer? i have an accurate milligram
    scale, so measuring a precise amount is not a problem.
     
  2. serotonin

    serotonin Newbie

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    i would say 4mg. this is because i have seen people lose their minds for a good little bit of 7-8mg.


    my motto: better safe than sorry.


    of course that's just the first time, adjust accordingly.
     
  3. dastardlymonkey

    dastardlymonkey Newbie

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    i'd reccommend 5-12mg.even if they freak out it'll be over soon.
     
  4. HippieD9

    HippieD9 Gold Member

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    I'd say 1 hit offa 4mg crystal, and go from there. It doesn't seem like much, but better slow than scared!





    Peace,


    D.
     
  5. Paderas

    Paderas Silver Member

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    The only problem is that it's so difficult to measure accurately, especially a small amount like 4 mg's.

    And getting a good scale that's accurate enough will cost a LOT!



    E-bay has some nice ones from time to time but usually they don't go beyond 0.01 grams accuracy.
     
  6. Darthcarlos

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    I would say 5 mg my first time was on 5 and it was a medium experience , use a glass pipe for best results and dont put the flame on the pipe just below it so the top of the flame is about 2 cm away.
     
  7. enquirewithin

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    Do you need to put the powder on top of some other material such as dried leaves?
     
  8. thydarkprevails

    thydarkprevails Gold Member

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    i'm in agreance with anything from the 4-7 range..

    make a easy freebase pipe..

    1. get a slide peace from yer favorite bong..

    2. put tinfoil in bowl of slide peace..

    3. apply flame to tin foil, thus vaporizing the dmt on the other side of the foil up the slider, and into your lungs...
     
  9. Guest

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    I encourage caution in all first-time trips, but be aware that some
    things, 5-MeO-DMT included, have negative effects that outweigh the
    positives if you don't get enough. This runs the risk of someone
    getting an underdose and saying "Yuck, this sucks" and not wanting to
    try any more. So I would tell the people not to be disappointed if the
    first effects feel undesirable, and keep trying more.
     
  10. adzket

    adzket R.I.P. Gold Member

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  11. billbong

    billbong Newbie

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    Definatly 9-12mg. show them a good time. if they r psychnauts maybe bout 14-15mg
     
  12. mariecurie

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    Ten milligrams in the pipe for the first time is good because they
    probably will smoke it in about five hits or so. I remember SWIM's
    first time he had ten or so and he ended up smoking about two at a time
    and repeatedly tripping out. Remember to tell them that they are about
    to have a three minute conversation with God[​IMG]



    Be VERY careful giving them 9-12 milligrams. That seems like a very
    irresponsible dosage to me, but perhaps I'm just a bit sensitive. Then
    again, they could be too...
     
  13. prospero

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    Be careful with this one - I've only smoked it once and will never do so again. I don't know how much I smokedas a friend weighed it out for me but I guess it was about 10mg. The trip was dreadful - I thought I'd gone insane and was terrified throughout, but much worse were the after-effects. For six months afterwards Iwas getting frequentflashbacks, out of body experiences (which were sometimes funI admit), highly disturbed sleep (including more flashbacks), difficulty concentrating, and basically the feeling I'd given myself permanent brain damage. After six months it started to calm down a bit, but it was 2 years beforeI felt I was completelty back to normal!
     
  14. Mezza

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    I have tried 5-Me0-DMT several times, at various dosages, and has now given up on it as too dull. He said it was like being whacked round the head with a baseball bat - very powerful but not particularly pleasant or insightful. However he had none of the fear or longer term effects of the previous report. Edited by: Mezza
     
  15. [azu]

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    what prospero is talking about is post traumatic stress syndrome, I had it too after a nasty incident on some bad e tablet.. lasted two years indeed..
     
  16. genaro

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    10mg (lower dose canhave pretty unpleasant body feelings).
     
  17. psykochamane

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    Are you sure it's due to 5meo dmt only?


    Don't you think that 5Meo dmt "want to say you" something
     
  18. prospero

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    Perhaps, but I've taken plenty of other stuff since with no problems. To be honest I don't mind how bad a trip is as it's all got learning potential, and may indeed be trying to tell me something. Until that pointI could deal with it asI always knew the trip would end eventually. What I'm definitely not happy with is the two years of flashbacks etc afterwards.
     
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    I have never smoked 5-meo-DMT, but I will be smoking some soon, and I am gunna tell him to smoke 10mg. The chart says 10mg is a common, or strong dose, so I figure if it isn't super strong, I will still get an idea of how powerful this substance is.
     
  20. jaguarangel

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    You can easily blow someone out on too much like 10mg. so they will never
    want that experience again or you can gradiently turn on a person on so
    that each person can define what their threshold, medium, strong dosage
    is.