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Injecting - How much water to use when injecting heroin

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by methadone_lad, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. methadone_lad

    methadone_lad

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    swim has just cooked up a bag and has 2 0.5mil in 2 pins,swim thinks he didnt put enuf water in?? cause it was quiet abit for a street bag ie 0.2-0.3 he was put in about 1mil(full pin of water),he has just took a hit and is ok,but the other hit inside the pin there is like cloudy maybe bits in the liquid,is it still ok?????HELP

    its ok swim has now finished he spiled his cup and had 2 suck the gear up from the table!!!
     
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  2. jon-q

    jon-q Gold Member

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    Re: Need Help!!

    Swim would Put the cloudy liquid back into the spoon,Add a little bit more water (0.2ml)~ re-heat slightly and then re filter..
    Just to be on the safe side
    .....Q
    Don't forget to clean the srynge out
     
  3. teddybearpicnics

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    Re: Need Help!!

    Swim knows this thread was made awhile ago but what happened? Was it any good. Anytime swim got a bag that was .2 .3 it was cement mix or fucking baking soda, THATS A HUGE BAG. And if it's cloudy, even worse.
    Teddy
     
  4. dyingtomorrow

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    Re: Need Help!!

    Every once in a while that shit happens around here - the dope if you leave it in the syringe too long starts getting cloudy and will "crystalize" or some shit. Just as jon-q said, the solution is to get it out, recook it with more water, refilter it, and then shoot it as fast as you can. :)
     
  5. mickey_bee

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    Re: Need Help!!

    Bags I'm guessin are more expensive in the UK, but the standard in the North of UK is 0.2g.
     
  6. methadone_lad

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    Re: Need Help!!

    normal ie street bags in u.k are usually 0.2 to 0.3 depends on person
     
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  7. chillinwill

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    Re: Need Help!!

    ^^Methadone_lad, please go back and edit your post as price discussion is not allowed on here.
     
  8. Rightnow289

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    Re: Need Help!!

    Where SWIM is a bag is roughly 0.1 - 0.15. They get 15 out of 1.75g
     
  9. jon-q

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    Junkhead swi-me thinks that the both of us need to elope to ireland,(0.2-0.3g) in a street bag wow.Pre Drought in swims area a good bag would have been about .17g(10-11 out of a 1.75g)swims freind could get .2g .
    During the drought this dropped to about 0.12g +- a point (14-15 out of 1.75g) swims freinds weight dealer who had stopped selling weights could only get bagels(bags) Thankfully they were 0.2g .
    The average bagel in this area apparently is now around 0.13g .

    Swim would normaly use 1.2ml of water to cook up 0.2-0.3g of H and 0.1g of citric acid,cooked and filterd this would leave about 0.8ml of prepared soup.Sometimes a little more water would be used if the gear weighed light and the filter would normaly have been slightly moist as swim would either dip it in to boiling water or hold it over steam for about 30 seconds to try and kill off any bacteria.
     
  10. methadone_lad

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    swiy got a normal bag ie 0.2,swiy used 90ml of water and half a sachet you get in the starter pack,cooked it up and got 0.60 in the pin swiy must of cooked it up 2 much but there was 2 many wee bits floating about,which it had 2 be cooked up,the gear was like treackle,it was dead oiley looking and dark and not the liquidist on it,was ok gear,cause swiy has a meth habit he has 2 bang up a full bag 2 himself,can anyone put out some info about there areas were they live and were there is good gear ect??just for info sake
     
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    In Chicago the standard street bag is .25-.33g, and roughly 30-60% purity. It's almost universally cut with the dihydra-whatever (common) sleeping pill, which SWIM thinks adds to the feeling. The dealers usually just throw the H in a blender with the pills, so often times there are little red specks in the dope, which can make it cook up pink or even gooey. Even though this sounds weird, it usually doesn't negatively affect the dope, and some of the pinkest shots can be the best.

    Normally if SWIM's tolerance is lowered from suboxone, he can feel good off 1 bag, and usually uses like .5 CC of water. Shooting anything more than that, and SWIM always uses the whole 1 CC syringe full of water.
     
  12. olduncle

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    A good general rule is to use as much water as possible, within reason. SWI knows this flies in the face of conventional wisdom - much like the certainty that SWIY gets higher faster via neck shots, that repeated booting is necessary to reduce the risk of 'running out', etc., most are dead certain that a less dilute shot gives a stronger rush. This isn't true, unless SWIwe are comparing shots with huge differences in water content, and it is true that even the purest dope is acidic and somewhat damaging to veins via cumulative effect. Using more water reduces any deleterious acid action, so SWIone should simply use about 80%-90% of the rig's capacity as a general practice. 80 units as opposed to 50 over a bag of dope in a 1 ml rig, for example, is good self protection insurance and will give exactly identical effect and onset strength (rush). If SWIone is certain that there's a difference if everything else is identical but a few extra unts of water, it is almost certainly the placebo effect.
     
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    Methadonelad ~ If swiy is cooking up 0.2g of H - 0.1g of citric acid is MORE than enough to dissolve all of the Heroin,Anything floating about after a few bubbles have appeared in the spoon and it's had a good mix is likely to be "Shite". This can be dissolved by adding more acid or heating more, but swi-you "DONT" want this to happen.
    Try using .2g H... 30-40% citric acid(0.07g-0.09g.... - .1g max) and mix with 1.2 mls water(one FULL 1ml pin or two FULL 0.5ml pins) Give this a little stir and heat a little.Stir again and heat until a couple of bubbles start to appear..This will dissolve all of the H.
    Any solids that are left are going to be bash (shite).The solution should be fairly watery and not at all syrup like.
    As always take care .....Q
     
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    But it's double the price here in Ireland than what you pay in Engerland, so that makes it dearer here :)
     
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    wow, swiys surely amaze me with such a difference in cooking depending on the area you're in ...! In romania, from 1g they get like 6-7 bags, which makes a bag 0.14 to 0.17. Can find bigger, but this is the normal.
    SWIM (and everyone she knows) cooks a bag in 0.20 ml water, with half quantity of citric than the H quantity. And she's making it pretty diluted, compared to others....her ex-dealer was doing 6 bags in 0.8ml water...!
    What swim also finds weird is that swiys cook it up in spoons or like-wise devices. That way a lot of stuff gets lost, evaporating or just getting stuck to the edges of the spoon! In Romania, everyone swim knows cooks it in little glass ampoules, ranging from 5ml to 10ml. She did it once in a spoon and she lost like 1/3 of the stuff! And no, the glass ampoules don't break, swiu don't give it a long boil, but rather short ones till its ready.
    Just for curiosity, swiy should try this...and compare!
     
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