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Health - How to tell if your smack is fake?

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by At a CrossRoads, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. At a CrossRoads

    At a CrossRoads

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    SWIM just copped not too long ago and when he got back he realized that his smack might be fake. First, the bags have way to much in them and its not dissolving like it should. Also, the final solution after being filtered is a muddy color that SWIM has never seen before. Did SWIM just get ripped off or is there anyway to tell if your shit is legit? Any help would be appreciated and SWIM knows he prolly messed up but his normal guy wasnt answering.

    Also SWIM wanted to add that the bags were sealed and it was a "brand" that he hasnt used in a very long time. Thanks.

    At a CrossRoads added 7 Minutes and 59 Seconds later...

    I see some SWIMMERs have viewed the thread so any advice at all would help.
     
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  2. AlchemyEscaped

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    Swim would suggest smoking it to see if it's real. If Swiy knows dope, then Swiy will know or not if it's real.
     
  3. At a CrossRoads

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    yeah SWIM guesses he already figured that out by having to even post the thread. SWIM is not happy.
     
  4. tourniquet

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    Tasting it is easier than smoking it, and it can be done with less hassle (preparing the cig, etc). It's also sure-fire way to tell if that's H or not in an instant.

    Just lick SWIY's finger a bit so it gets sticky enough to get some probe on, then touch that powdered H lightly, getting only a very small bit stuck on that finger. Don't take much, as it will be harder to tell just how bitter & strong the taste is.

    It should taste pill-bitter, and remain very pregnant on the back of SWIY's tongue / palate for a longer time than pills do.
    SWIY should have no doubts if it's "bitter enough" - it's VERY bitter if it's H . Anything "doubtfully bitter" is not H or is very badly cut.

    If SWIY tastes it few times, he'll quickly gain some expertise over the matter, as heroin has a very specific taste that can't be mistaken for pills'. In time he'll even get able to tell how badly cut some bag/batch is. ;)

    When buying larger quantities or inside the dealer's house with heroin spread over and not sealed, tasting is a lot easier "liberty" to take than smoking, as it requires a tiniest amount to taste it.

    Good luck getting best gear :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Spucky

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    AW: How to tell if your smack is fake?

    First and most important is Reputation,
    2. tasting- good heroin is not bitter in a instant, 2,435 - 4,167sec. are needed to
    get "the flower" of good smack
    3. Burning- look for the melting-process, how the melted stuff look a like
    and how do it smell!
     
  6. kasbeq

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    Ok quick reply as swim has to go to work

    In swims opinion if the amount looks unusually large as swiy explained it – it’s a good sign that it probably isn’t what swiy expects.

    If it looks to good to be true than it probably isn’t the real deal – that is swims general principle when drugs are concerned

    The above threads give good description of what heroin should taste like and swim wishes to add that you can also smell it.

    It has a distinct vinegary smell to it and maybe swiy should try and get accustomed to smell and taste when he has a real deal, in order to prevent future ripp-offs.

    Whatever swiy does, do not inject when in doubt
     
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  7. tourniquet

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    Yep, smelling is another good reliable issue. Forgot to add it...sorry :D

    I would add though that powdered H is hard to smell...at least H3 kind SWIM got.

    Combining the melting & smelling is the way to go, IMO - smell it while SWIY "boils" it.

    Should smell medicine-like, bitter smell to say so. But it's far more complex than this, although I'd say this is the dominant smell of the mix.

    Smell of boiling H is really hard to describe in words (to SWIM is, and she knows it by heart), because it's very specific, too - which is a damn good thing for telling if it's H or not if SWIY already got to the boiling point (eventually going over his doubts on taste!)...as SWIY really doesn't want to inject weird stuff sold as fake H.

    Same as with tasting, it doesn't take many times of sniffing SWIY's bubbling spoon to become an expert.
    And same as with tasting, with time & experience, after sniffing many spoons (out of pleasure or need;ex. SWIM sometimes is kinda delighted to almost "snort" that shitty smell - adds on the appetite :laugh: )... SWIY might get able to tell about purity and some specific common contaminants added by feeling their "secondary smells" in the mix, besides H's.
    Of course, would only be able to recognize the ones that do have a smell of their own.

    Like SWIKasbeq stated above, SWIY should start learning about real H's taste and practice his smelling when he's got sure-sourced H, or just simply knowing without any doubts that's (good) real H.
    The better (purer) batches SWIY gets to smell, the better he'll be at telling not only if it's fake or not, but even how good is it - possible strength. And this is always something good, as it might (possibly!) ever help SWIY when deciding if he's taking chances on OverDosing with that shot ...or not.
    Really worth it "wasting SWIY's time" to get learning rather sooner. ;)

    I would add an advice/tip though : SWIY should try to avoid both smelling & tasting IF possible when SWIY is withdrawing & nauseous, as it could get him vomiting for real. After SWIY's learned it already, no need to do it that often, unless really needed for purity/cuts awareness... or enjoying that smell/taste.

    Maybe some other SWIMmer is better at explaining/describing that specific smell ? :)
     
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  8. Solinari

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    My fiend thinks the best way is to melt a little on tin foil and once someone is familiar with how real gear is like then it should be easy to tell every time. So once someone has what they KNOW to be real gear then use the foil melt taste test.

    It should have a candy like taste, that said my fiend does not know what heroin 4 tastes like when smoked, he only knows it doesn't run like brown.
     
  9. At a CrossRoads

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    Okay just a little update for everyone. SWIM tried both the taste and smell methods that were explained above and realized that there is definitely no bitter taste. SWIM just cut his losses, somehow managed to put some bills together, and got some legit stuff. Thanks for everyone's help and thats why you dont go to a spot that your not sure about. SWIM should of known better and thats the first time it happened in years.
     
  10. tourniquet

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    I'm sorry SWIY had to go through it, SWIM knows so fucken well what's it like to get burn'd...she tasted so much shit she got sold as being H ...and ironical enough, she'd usually get fake only when w/d .... :vibes:

    I'm glad SWIY now got it right!

    And SWIY shouldn't weep over it, consider that, for his $ he lost over this shit-deal, SWIY now knows just how to tell if his dope is really dope ...and even how good is it! ;)

    Keep getting the legit kick-ass shit ! :thumbsup:
     
  11. At a CrossRoads

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    THATS HILARIOUS becuase SWIM happened to be w/d when this whole situation happened lol. Well SWIM has been an addict for almost half a decade so SWIM knows his shit....he was just in a desperate moment which is why he settled for the random spot that he knew prolly wasnt good.