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I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third day

Discussion in 'Opiate addiction' started by rach82, May 8, 2012.

  1. rach82

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    Hi guys! I have sit here and read about 20 different threads and I feel like I am going to die. My arms are so weak and it hurts to just rest them on the desk to type. Here is my story. I am a 29 year old female and I went to the methadone clinic for an oxy addiction for ten straight years. I passed all of my drug tests besides one(for coke), which I think is pretty good. I have two kids, so I knew I had to get off oxys. Well, I did not think methadone would be worse than oxy's to get off of. Boy, was I wrong. Today is Monday night and Thursday morning I get my Vivitrol shot. I seriously don't think I can make it that long, but I have to. The sad part is that I have over 1,100 milligrams of methadone in my house and I am dying to go in there and just take a little sip of it. If i do it, I won't get that shot because I have to be clean for five days from methadone and I may never get this chance again. It took me three months to get into this place because where I live, there isn't much help.

    Well, here I am sitting here feeling like I am going to die. I don't know what to do. I don't even know why I am on this forum typing this for or if anyone will even read this. I can't sleep at all, I keep sweating and then freezing, I am soo weak that I can barely lift up my two year old to change him, shaking, throwing up, I am so depressed and just want to cry(I have never been depressed before), I am hurting so bad. I have tried taking Imodium and Tylenol night time flu and cold, but of course, that is not helping. I took a bath today and that took every ounce of energy I had in me. What would you recommend that I do for my withdraws that I would not fail my drug test of course? As much as I want to just go in there and take about 50 milligrams of methadone, I have to have the willpower to do this, but for some reason, I can't pour it out, even though I know in my head that I should.

    Also, I am really scared about the vivitrol shot. I know it doesn't help with withdraws. I would love to know how it will make me feel because I will feel like pure sh*t going in there that day. Will it make me feel a little better that day? How long will I feel as normal as I ever will? I just mainly want to know how long does it take to feel like moving and get over these shakes after I take the shot on Thursday? Please help me! Thank you so much and thank you for taking the time out to read this. You don't know how much it will help just writing back to me! :)
     
  2. ex-junkie

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    Re: I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third

    Call a supportive friend to come over and assist you to flush it down the toilet. If you're serious about letting go and quitting; you will do this. It will be hard, but you can do this.

    What are their plans for your treatment? This injection will cause you withdrawals. How do they intend to manage them? This is very important for you to know/have a say in how this is managed. Particularly considering they are going to administer it sooner than the manufacturer's recommended waiting times.

    The vivitrol shot will boot the remaining methadone off of your opiate receptors. I'm not going to lie to you sweetie; it will be uncomfortable. You should expect to feel pretty shitty for a couple of days afterwards. The weakness will persist a bit longer though and this is because of what your body has endured. If you keep hydrated and eat a balanced diet, you will feel better for it. Sleep is another issue. We need sleep for good mental health; clonidine and promethazine help to achieve this. It's doubtful that a doctor in US will give this to you and it breaks my heart your health care system is so fucking crap. You should take some journal articles that prove the efficacy of antihypertensives and antihistamines in opiate withdrawal. If they genuinely are unaware of their effectiveness, then you might be the person to teach them something new.

    Ideally your doctor will give you an antihypertensive (like clonidine or lofexidine) and this will help to alleviate the temperature fluctuations, the sweats, restless legs, and if the dose is an effective one; it will make you a little bit drowsy and help to induce sleep. Don't get too excited though, doctors normally don't prescribe it in the doses that do make you drowsy because to achieve that effect it is essentially causing the opposite - hypotension. That is low blood pressure and can be dangerous due to increased fall risk, dangers driving a car, etc. Therefore they only tend to prescribe doses that will have little to no effect on your blood pressure.

    In the meantime, you should get yourself some sedative antihistamines. I've attached an information sheet about sedative antihistamines. However, these may not be OTC in your location. They're not addictive and if you say you took them for their intended purpose (i.e., allergies) then I can't see the problem. You shouldn't fail a test, however don't take my word for that. I know it's not a problem in Australia.

    I too did my methadone detox at home with a 2 year old. This is a really good time for you to quit sweetie. Quit the methadone and the drugs before your bub can remember anything. ;)

    Good luck.
     

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    Re: I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third

    "Unintended Precipitation of Opioid Withdrawal: Opioid-dependent and opioid-using patients, including those being treated for alcohol dependence, must be opioid-free for a minimum of 7-10 days before starting VIVITROL treatment (5.5)." <--- Direct quote from the prescribing information about Vivitrol.

    I've attached the prescribing guide for you to read. It can still be given, but ideally your symptoms should be managed appropriately in a controlled environment. You should not have to suffer in any shape or form and if they're expecting you to suffer, then you should be completely aware of their intentions. Fuck man, you should be having a say in your treatment. That is what person centred care planning is all about.
     

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    Re: I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third

    imo,you should take some time off work for the first few weeks if possible.is there any way you could get some time off work,starting immediatly ?

    also flushing your remaining methadone down the toilet,would stop you relapsing and blowing your treatment plan

    ex junkie has given you some great advice

    i wish you all the very best in sorting things out
     
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    Thank you so much guys for taking time out of your day to respond back to me. I hope you didn't think I read it because I did the day you posted, but I didn't feel like sitting at the computer and typing back and I still don't, but I am forcing myself. After 5 days and 7 hours of withdrawing, I went to my doctor's appointment and you were right. I still have methadone in my system. I was crying pretty much the whole day yesterday because I didn't get that shot and I just want to feel as normal as I can. I had a few days where I just wanted to take some methadone, but I have to have the willpower for not only me, but my kids and parents(they are my best friends and we are so close). I just wished they wouldn't have told me not to take it for five days. I read all over the internet that it takes 7-10 days and they even had pamphlets in their office saying 7-10 days! But, then I thought in my head that if they would have told me 7 days, who knows if I would have done it. Maybe they told me five for a reason, but it is still messed up.

    Here is what really, really scares me. I have an appointment with her again on Monday and that will make over 9 days. I told her I swear I didn't take anything(and I swear on my kid's lives that I didn't and I had someone to flush ALL 1,100 milligrams. I did have it in my house for three days, I think for security though.. if that even makes sense). Well, here is what scares me. She told me that she believes that I haven taken it in five days, but she has seen someone in jail for 12 days and on the 13th day, still have methadone in his system and a lot of people in beds in a detox hospital with it in their system for 10 days. She told me where I have been on it for ten years, it is in my bones.. Well, I thought it didn't get in your bones. I have pamphlets from the methadone clinic that says it doesn't get in your bones! I just hope in 9 days, that I won't have it in my system or I will go nuts and probably really have a nervous breakdown. I am in college and don't go back for a month, so this is the perfect time to do it and that is why I didn't wait three more weeks and try to detox myself from the 1,100 milligrams that I had. It is long gone though, so I don't have to worry about that. I just want to be normal for my kids, parents, and myself, of course. My kids have never been around me while I wasn't on methadone and my oldest is almost 11. Oh, and also, I spent over 65k on methadone at the clinic in a ten year period. I know what you may be thinking, if I was on pills, it would be more, but I would have been dead if I wouldn't have got off pills. Methadone did save my life in a way, and killed it in another way and I am sure you guys know what I am saying. One thing I have now is not ONE person in my life on drugs and I don't have any friends hardly.

    Here is my rant and what I don't understand and I will never understand this. If they say that if you have any amount of methadone in your system, it can cause you to go into horrible withdraws. Well, I am already in it!

    My doctor told me to drink a lot of water and try to get it out of my system because I told her that I maybe drunk 4 ounces of water in five days and I thought in my head I should be drinking more, but I guess I figured it would have been out of my system and thought they knew. I am taking multivitamins, drinking energy drinks, benadryl, clonidine(I took ten last night(they only gave me eight for four days of .01 and my friend gave me some .02 milligrams because I didn't care if I ate them like candy). NEVER will I take that many again. This person who was here helping me who I have known all 29 years of my life was screaming at me for over an hour she said and so was my sister and I didn't even hear them. If I didn't have kids and knew I wouldn't die, I would probably take that many every day just to be in a deep sleep, but it isn't safe and can screw with your blood pressure. I know this question doesn't have to do with my paragraph, but I was wondering if anyone knows how to get this crap out of my system faster, so on Monday at nine days with nothing, I will pass the test for sure? I heard vinegar would help, but I don't want it to mess with the drug test, of course? I just wonder what I could take that wouldn't mess it up, if anything?

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    Tell you the truth, I forgot to ask her the question what they do for a few days of withdrawling(I have no clue how to spell this.. google keeps telling me withdrawing, but my spell checker says withdrawling! haha) If they give me anything, it will probably be .01 milligram of clonidine, if that and that doesn't help nothing, but a few more helps with sleeping. I was hoping that they wasn't going to do the 7-10 thing like you said and Vivitrol even says that, too. I really knew in my head that was going to happen. I am just wondering it this is a reason why I still have it in my system for. I know they say you have to be on like 25 or 30 milligrams(here anyways), so I had to lie to them, of course because I need the shot. Well, I was on 105 milligrams for the last 6 years(the first four years, I was on 150, but I burned everything and passed out and had to lower it). Well, I was taking like 70 milligrams for the last past two months, but the two times a month I went to the clinic, I had to take the 105 milligrams of course. Well, the day before I quit, I was like, I want to feel good one more time, so my stupid ass took all 105 milligrams after being on 60 for months! I think I may have screwed up there or maybe it is because I have been on it for ten years? I have no clue. I quit going to the clinic about a month and a half ago and and I was cutting myself down for a few months and went for two more weeks and had that and extra left over for about a month. That is why I still had that 1,100 milligrams because I got the call about them finally accepting me for the Vivitrol shot after three months and there was no way I was messing it up, so I knew it was time to quit.

    I have to go to therapy and groups for 4 hours a month for the shot and that is pretty much all I know because I was so sad that day because I couldn't get the shot and couldn't even think of anything to ask. I was so shaky and it took me THREE hours just to see her of waiting in the waiting room and I thought I was dead when I went back there.




    Thank you soo much for all the hope and I am so proud of you! I want you to give yourself a pat on the back from me because you deserve it! I know I don't know you in real life, but we are pretty much the same person. I will have your success story soon to tell everyone that I got off methadone and went on the Vivitrol shot and I can't wait to be inspiration like you are for people who needs help! If it wasn't for my kids, I would have never got off pills, never started methadone, and never got off methadone. I know you know how hard it is with a two year old because you done the same thing, but that is what motivates you even more! I think maybe these energy drinks are helping me feel a little better and I think I just found a new addiction a few times a week. haha.. Nevermind, I just looked them up and they really are addictive.(I do recommend them for people who are withdrawing though because a few days won't hurt and it beats nothing) I guess if you drink them for months, you want them everyday, so I will pass on that. I will just drink them while I am withdrawing. lol.. After I succeed with this shot, I have one more thing I am going to try, but I really don't know if I can do this. But, if I got off methadone after ten years, I know I can do anything. I really want to quit smoking. I have smoked for 12 years and I know my kids hate it. My son begs me to stop smoking and I promised him I would. My mom quit smoking on April 1st and she has smoked for 35 years and is doing great with no nicotine patches or anything. I am really proud of her and I am going to make her proud. :)



    Oh I have one more question, if you ever read this and don't care to write back to me when your bored or something. I forgot to ask this question. How long does most people stay on the shot for? I would love to do it for like three or four months, but I read it can be up to a year. How long have you been on it for and how long have they told you that you will probably be on it, if you don't mind answering. Thanks!
     
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    Re: I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third

    i went onto oral naltrexone after 5 days clean from dhc and before i took it i felt actually not bad , after i took it i went into full blown wd, puking and sh%$ting leave it as long as poss,i also did it inn detox 5 came off methadone monday started naltrexone on thurs,never been so ill in my life lost 20lbs in a week thru sweat,no food,diahrrea etc and it took me months to feel anything like normal,im sorry i know i should be offering encouragement but to me naltrexone is the devil incarnate even after 18 months on it i still felt numb and shitty all the time as it blocks all endorphins etc as well,sory but this is my opinion and i have known a fw people who hav had no probs with it and has worked wonders, everyones different but if you feel you need it go for it, at least try out the first dose but 5 days is far too soon after h is supposed to be 10 days methadone is a min of 14 if i remember right ,sorry for the downer i feel i have to give you MY honest opinion , please someone come behind me with a story about how great it worked for them!!
     
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    I really appreciate you being honest with me because that is what I want, if though it kinda makes me sad to read this. :/ But then I have to think that I have read A LOT of success stories like ex-junkies and that is what I try to think of. Of course, I have read a few stories like yours, but then again it depends on the person. I've got kids, so this WILL work for me. That is my hope anyways.. lol Like you said, you know a few people who it worked for, too, so that really helps in your post and I don't feel like your post is discouraging. I wanted the truth and you gave it to me. That is what this forum is all about. I wished it would have worked for you, but after being on it for 18 months, at least you are not on drugs. I think a lot of people does like it because they can't get high from it like methadone(if your on a high milligrams of it) or pills, but that is my point. I don't want to be high on it. When I took my methadone, I lowered it so I wouldn't have got the high from it. Even though they told me when I started that you can't get high from it, it isn't in your bones(even though my doctor that is going to give me the vivitrol shot told me it does), and you know what else they told me ten years ago? They told me it wasn't addictive. I really knew it had to be because there is no way if they have to wean you down for it. They just want the money and they got almost 70k from me, but it did save my life because I would have been dead from pills and that is the truth. Thank you for your post because it did still give me hope because you said it helped a few people you knew. :) I have no clue why I am sitting here feeling like pure crap and typing on this forum, but I have been on the couch for six days and I am sick of it. And plus, I am chugging energy drinks, too. I don't have energy to get up and down things, but at least I can sit on the computer for a while and that was something I couldn't do six days ago for nothing. Good luck to you and I really wished the shot would have helped you, but just think of your drug days. Yeah, it felt good, but when you couldn't find nothing, or all the money you spent, and hurting your family and other people, it has to be better being on the shot. I just don't think we will ever be normal. I just hope that isn't true!
     
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    First of all, I'm here to scold you for taking 1gram of clonidine! What were you thinking!?! Damn woman! You can take 0.1-0.2mg and go into a deep sleep. It's only something you should do at night time though. Half of a 0.1mg tablet first thing in the morning is ideal because you've got parental responsibilities.

    Secondly, after nine days you will have a negligible amount of methadone in your system. There is no point fearing the vivitrol shot because even if it makes you feel like shit; it will only be short-lived. My detox went like this;

    -four days of no methadone.
    -five days of buprenorphine (did not require very much).
    -naltrexone induction the following day.

    Now I had roughly 10mg of buprenorphine minimum in my system when I began the naltrexone induction. My pain and addiction specialist admitted me to hospital for the induction and I was given 1 or 2mg of naltrexone orally every 2 hours. I was also medicated on clonidine, temazepam, and IM promethazine; I slept for the entire day and had to be woken up to take the naltrexone. The worst withdrawals that I was awake to feel was feeling cold and I had the shits once.

    The next morning I took 50mg naltrexone orally and had no withdrawals whatsoever. Trust me, you will have an easier time but ask for some medication to get you through that day. IM promethazine is wonderful and will knock you on your arse lol. If you can get that; GET IT. Just say you would prefer a drowsy antihistamine rather than a benzodiazepine, but make sure you've got somebody to drive you home and help care for the kiddies.

    Oh and I was on 55mg methadone orally, but was buying it on the street and injecting it. I was on around 110mg. I took naltrexone for around six months and then kept forgetting to take them and decided it wasn't necessary anymore. :)
     
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    I know I should have never took that many, because I know someone who has a 13 year old son who has had sleeping problems all of his life and the doctors put him on two 0.2 milligrams of clonidine a night and he falls asleep within thirty minutes. I have seen it happen so many times because I used to babysit him a lot. This is a kid who used to sleep like four hours a night on a school night every night and that was all he would get. I took four of them when I left the doctor's office because I was so sad I didn't get that shot and I knew my mom was here to help me because she stayed all night. For three hours it didn't help me sleep, so I just kept taking them. I never want to be in a deep sleep like that again. It was like I was in a coma for three hours because I didn't her screaming that long.

    I am just soo scared. The withdraws are not as bad now, but I have NO ENERGY at all and just feel dead. I still get sweats and chills here and there and I can't eat. I drunk five energy drinks last night, mainly so I would have a little bit of energy and so I could pee a lot, because I have to get this crap out of my system. I am just so scared that on day nine(Monday), I will still have it in my system since she told me she has seen it so many times where she knew people was in jail or in a hospital detoxing and it took 13 days. She said if I have any amount in my system, that she will not give it to me and it really sucks. I think have nine days of detoxing that it shouldn't be a problem even if there was a small amount. Hopefully it will be all out of my system. I did pee like 20 times last night from drinking those energy drinks. I am not scared of getting the shot and going into withdraws now since I do feel better and if it happens I will get over them in a few days, but I am scared she won't give it to me if it is still in my system and it can take two weeks where I have been on such a high dose for ten years. My biggest fear is never having the energy like I did before. :( I walked out of there Thursday when she told me I still had it in my system after five days bawling. I just want to get better and hate this. I swear, I will NEVER take/snort another pill(but haven't for ten years) or do methadone.


    So, I have one more question if you don't care if I bother you again.. lol How long did it take for you to get energy after the shot? I am taking four multi vitamins a day and trying so hard just to regain my energy back. I just feel like I will never have it again. I hate waking up knowing I won't have that taste of methadone and it going through my body, but I get so happy to know it will be over soon and that shot will help me, hopefully.


    Thank you soo much for giving me hope and answering my questions. I showed my mom this forum the other day and she was talking about how nice you are. :) You know what.. now that you mentioned promethazine, I do have some because my doctor wrote them out to me, but I guess I just forgot about them. They never knock me out though because I used to get 30 of them for prescribed for car sick when I was younger, but I am going to take some because I just can't eat and I feel like I am going to throw up. Thank you so much again!
     
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    I don't mind you asking questions. I have a lot of knowledge and I'm more than happy to share it with you. Though I never had a vivitrol shot. My experience with naltrexone was via implant in 2000 and tablets in 2005/2006. I'm not sure how long it took for me to feel energy again... natural energy; because I went on to abuse other drugs about three months after my detox which completely sapped my energy.

    Those energy drinks will cause bigger problems for you because when you stop them you will get monster migraine headaches that last around two weeks. They are not very fun believe me. Switch to coffee if you need a pep up because a cup of coffee usually has less caffeine in it.
     
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    I really don't know what to do now because that vivitrol shot didn't happen. I did test negative for methadone(that was all I was taking) and now I am laying here wishing I was rreally dead. It really sucks. My doctor gave me half of that pill before getting the shot and within 20 minutes, I felt like someone had a knife stabbing me twenty times a minute. It was twice as worse as labor pain. It just quit today after 24 hours. I was in here screaming at the top of my lungs from those stabbing pains. I threw up at least 50 times and I only ate a hash brown that morning and two gatorades. I was throwing up blood and everything. So, I guess there goes my only hope. :((

    I swear, I took a bath earlier and it took me like 20 minutes to climb out of it. When I got out, I just sit there wet forever and couldn't even put my clothes on forever. My doctor told me that there might be some methadone "hiding" in my body somewhere and that is why that happened. I don't believe it. if i passed the damn drug test it was not in my system.

    I don'nt know what to do now. It seems like my only hope has failed. No one could pay me a million dollars to take that little pill again and I am not joking. I was llaying in the bathtub today and just wished I would have drowned. I would have never done that of course, but I just don't know. My mom has been here helping me for days now with my two year old and she can hardly move because she has fibromyalgia and is in worse pain than me. I know she is and it really depresses me. I wished I wouldn't have poured out all that methadone thinking that damn shot would help, even though I didn't even make it that far. :(((
     
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    I feel so bad for you! You have been through pure hell. Have you looked into Sub? How are your withdrawals now? Are you still craving?
     
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    How many milligrams of naltrexone did they give you? They should have done the induction slowly! Mind you, naltrexone is long acting. If you're not in withdrawal anymore it means that your withdrawals are pretty much finished. If they gave you a full naltrexone tablet, then this means that they've given you 50mg.

    Keep in mind that my induction was 1mg every 2 hours over a 24 hour period... this is 12mg in total. That was enough to clean out my system in a humane manner and I was able to take a whole 50mg tablet the following morning without a single withdrawal.

    I sincerely hope that we have student MDs and health care workers reading this shit man. Opiate detox and naltrexone inductions DO NOT have to be hideous experiences. They CAN be done humanely, thus increasing success rates and patient adherence to treatment. Fuck!

    Edit: out of curiosity, how did they test you for methadone? Was it urinalysis or blood test?
     
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    They gave me half of one, I am pretty sure she said 25 milligrams? It must be since you said a whole one was 50mgs. I swear, you put 10k in front of me and I will NEVER take that thing again. I thought I was literally dying. I have had two kids and that pain was NOTHING like taking that stupid pill. It may work for some, but not me. I guess I had my hopes up. I was thinking about calling them about suboxone, but I know it will take like a month to make an appointment and I plan on moving out of this shitty state and it will be another fallback just like the ten years of the methadone clinic was. I guess I will try this on my own, even though I wished I could have been on methadone all my life, but after $60k over ten years, I had to quit. No more $500 a month payment on that shit. I am not really having withdrawls now, I just have absolutely no energy and weak as hell. I would love to have some methadone in my body. I could get some easily, but if I made it this far, might as well go for it.

    When I started the going to the methadone clinic, those dumbasses told everyone it wasn't addictive. I even have a pamphlet from then saying it from when I first started. Methadone is the worse "drug" that I have ever done and by far the most addictive in my book.

    I really wished they would have gave me 1 milligram every two hours like they did you and maybe it would have worked. They gave me a urine test and I have never seen one that looked like that. At the clinic, you just pee in a cup with a temperature thingy on it and they send it off. This one, you had to pee 6 ounces and on the side it said negative, confirm, retest, and that temperature thingy. On day five, only one red line was on negative and on day nine when I didn't have anything in my system, there was two negative lines on it and then it says confirm and they peel it and look at the results.

    So, after waiting three hours in the waiting room, she called me back and I had no clue if I still had it in my system and she said do you have water. I had no clue wtf she was talking about, but she was talking about taking that half of pill. She told me to come back in 45 minutes. I live an hour and half away from that place. I had to ride home naked because I threw up at least 50 times in the parking lot and I felt stabbing pains, and I am talking about knife stabbing pains within 20-25 minutes. My mom wanted to take me to the hospital because I was doubled over screaming, but I just wanted to go home. I would say I got about 50-70 of those stabbing pains every minute for EIGHT hours and throwing up blood. That was the scariest time of my life.

    I think I am just going to have to get used to my new life. This is the first time since I was 17(I am 29 now), that I have been completely clean without anything prescribed to me or doing pills before going to the clinic. When I wake up for at least two hours, I think, damn.. I wished I had some methadone. I am feeling a little bit better today. I am on day 12 now and never thought I would have made it this far, so I am proud of myself. I just make myself get up and do something, play with my kids, or listen to music. I do have to say that music is different now. I have read where so many people said that and didn't believe it.

    My major problem right now besides being weak, no energy, and thinking in my head that I need methadone to feel better is NO sleep. Today is day 12, with 11 hours of sleep in those 12 days. It is starting to catch up to me. I feel like a zombie or something.

    I just want you guys to know that I appreciate the help and answering all the questions I have asked. :vibes:
     
  15. jamajessie

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    You're a strong woman with lots of willpower. You can do anything. You have been through hell. Your posts have really touched me. I'm proud of you too. I hope you get over this soon because you really deserve to feel better.
     
  16. BigWillyStyle

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    You've been through the worst. The fact that you made it through 10-yr methadone WD basically cold turkey means you have amazing willpower and now all you need is a goal. As long as you have something to focus on and work towards, you can build yourself back up and you will feel right again. It might take time, but remember you were on methadone for ten years. Surely it wont take that long of course but not an overnight thing. Just focus and pour your heart into something - your kids, college, get really good at whatever you are studying for example - and you will be wake up one day and realize, hey, Im ok and this is fuckin great and I am so glad I am not high right now!
     
  17. TheBigBadWolf

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    Re: I have a few questions about the vivitrol shot? I am withdrawing and on my third

    rach,

    I have not posted on your thread yet, but followed you since you begun.

    I myself also am a long-time MMT patient and still on 40mg of levomethadone which equates to 80 mg rac-methadone. (3rd treatment, this time long and slow rather than short and quick).

    During all my methadone time I have not known one person who went along well with naltrexone. Either they had terrible withdrawal syndrome and stopped immediately or they felt cravings like they never had when they were on 'done.
    Seems you belong to the first group.

    Yes, you will have a major change in your life now. Experiencing the clean mind is new to you, since you were on opiates this long. When I became clean the first time after five years of misusing opiates I was simply overwhelmed by the multitude of things I did feel then and by the intensity of feelings.
    There is a saying that becoming clean is the simple part, but staying clean was the harder...This is only partly true.
    The emotions come much harder on you, when you are newly clean, compared to when you get used to them in, say two months.

    I suppose you have read around on this forum a bit and haver found the thread about PAWS

    You should read it, if you haven't yet done so.
    There is much more to opiate withdrawal than just getting the substance out of your system.
    On this thread there are lots of useful info what comes after withdrawing (which is the correct form, btw;) ).

    I have a question:
    Now that you are off any opiates, what do you think suboxone should do for you? Not unlike methadone this is another long-acting opioid you sure don't want to have in your system.

    Your physical weakness will vanish over time (I am talking about some weeks, not days) and so will the strange "clean" feeling to which you will adoptz very much earlier.

    Sleep.
    This everytime I stopped methadone was an issue to me. I can tell you that taking walks in the evening helps a lot, working physically (garden work, if you have the possibility, biking, running) helps to get your body so tired that you will fall asleep, even when your mind seems to be wide awake. Relaxing music in the bedroom helps.

    I send you all my best wishes for your recovery,

    TBBW

    BTW: Throwing up blood from a naltrexone tablet is not a normal side effect. Maybe might want to get your stomach checked for hidden ulcera.
     
  18. ex-junkie

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    This is such a shame that they've done this to you without medicating you. Furthermore, I want you to realise that you've just gone through a rapid detox. That means that taking more naltrexone will not give you further withdrawals than what you've already experienced. The risk you take now by not taking another naltrexone tablet, is that when the naltrexone wears off your opiate receptors, any methadone still in your system has the opportunity to reattach itself to your opiate receptors. That could possibly cause further withdrawals.
     
  19. jamajessie

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    Exactly, She has been through torture. Why didn't they try to do something else for her? They made this poor woman suffer. I don't understand how they could let her go home the day she took the half of the Naltrexone and had such a bad reaction, and not treating her with anything. To me it seems like all the pain and vomiting she was doing would be of some concern to the Dr treating her.

    She is one really strong woman. I don't know how she did it.I wish I had half the strength and will power she has.

    We haven't heard from her in a while. I hope she writes soon.
     
  20. Aberdonian

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    This is exactly the same as what they did to me in detox5 , sedated me for 3 days well filled me of benzos so i would foret the wd's (which i didnt) then on day 4 off methadone gave me half a pill i was puking and shitting feeling like someone was slicing my stomach open with a knife i had no strenht they gave me a whole pill the next day and the day after i was supposed to gohome but the doctors wouldnt let me as i couldnt even hold down a cup of water so they kept me next day too i only kept taking the pills cos my folks had paid £3500 for the treatment, i stayed on oral naltrexone for 18 months and felt like a zombie the whole time permanently had diahorrea , had no libido didnt sleep more than 2-3 hrs a night for 2 months at least ,and when i stopped the naltrexone i started using i wasnt ready to stop i was counting down the days till i could use again -i would honestly rather commit suicide than go thru that treatment again i wouldnt tke a £50,000,000 lottery ticket to do it again but you hve came so far already you can do this without a chemical to stop u taking a chemical , i couldnt go 1 day without using ,i tried going back on the naltrexone a few yrs ago after being 7 days clean of dhc and got the same stabbng pains,puking diahrrea as long as i live i will never ever touch it again but as i said before i know people who its worked for but def not for me, the way your going youll feel naturally good in no time your body will make its own endorphins again which naltrexone would have blocked and made u feel crap your so strong managing to come from that amount of methadone by yourself , you dont need it things can only get better now,u take care and stick at it ,i KNOW you can do this and look forward to reading how your life has changed in 3-6 months ;) A,ps i know its not paragraphs and a nightmare to read but i struggle with those kind of things and this is as good as it gets sorry!