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Injecting - I v clogged syringe

Discussion in 'Cocaine & Crack' started by TheLearnerman, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. TheLearnerman

    TheLearnerman Newbie

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    All the time swim gets
    cloggged
    plungers. Swkn can get in vien, then. It's impossible for swim sometimes to shoot, seems like. Is cloggged

    TheLearnerman added 1 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...

    Please help swwxf
     
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  2. BoxStar

    BoxStar Gold Member

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    There no way SWIM can help SWIY unless posts a lot more info like posting how SWIY prepared the shot including from what source the shot was prepared; crack or powder cocaine.

    One common cause of clogged needles when slamming powder coke is having cooked the shot which tends to make the cuts in the cocaine form particles big enough to block the needle when the solution cools down again. Not properly filtering the solution is also a common cause and particularly with dissolved crack it’s a major cause of clogged needles.

    For all SWIYs around; if help its required give detailed information on the problem experienced.
     
  3. epote

    epote Silver Member

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    if it clogs the syringe its not water soluble, if its not water soluble it should NOT be in your bloodstream. A solid particle even small can get bigger pretty fast inside the bloodstream much like a small rock rolling on a snowy hill will get bigger and bigger.

    The problems with that are 1) mechanical injury 2) embolism

    Just filter the damn thing
     
  4. junkville

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    Agreed swim always filtered and never cooked his coke. When shooting speedballs he would always cook the heroin and then pour in the coke after it cooled a bit.

    When shooting coke alone, it was just cold water and a cotton.
     
  5. freebirdbulker

    freebirdbulker Mercury Member

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    happened to swim before. let the syringe sit for an hour or so. then what swiy has to do is pull back air into the syringe. so that way theres a big gap inside the syringe. and then gotta shake the shit out of it. this may take anywhere from 5 min to 10 min to finally get it to unclog. turn it upside down and shake, flip and shake and repeat til its movin around in the syringe good. then pull in some more water and then good to go
     
  6. JonCoyote

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    Swim i.v.'s meth so this may not work but when Swims outfit gets clogged he throws it away, not always possible though swim knows. Swim has had success SOMETIMES by heating the spike VERY gradually and carefully with a lighter being careful not to discolor the spike, they are usually stainless surgical steel and when stainless is heated to the point of glowing red(which dont take much) itll emit toxic fumes which wouldint be a problem as far as inhalation because its not a lot of steel but residue on the spike being introduced to your b-stream. CAREFUL!!!! And please dont substitute a bigger guage syringe to resolve this issue (no pun intended lol) Larger guage would only allow more particals to possibly enter b-stream and like my man Epote said, embolism is NO BUENO my friend. Google "foreign body embolism" Swiy will be glad Swiy did!
     
  7. pinksox

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    LOL. Sorry, but is it me or does anyone else find great humorous irony in the fact that anyone injecting IV meth would worry about toxins on their point...but not the toxins they're putting into their system.

    Sorry my friend. No offense intended swimmy just found that extremely humorous this evening. But then swimmy has also found great joy in the ironies of life.

    Swimmy is only adding a comment at all because she also wanted to point out(especially if swiy it injecting in a hand or foot) that veins are not merely tubes full of blood but they have what amount to one way valves some that when the heart beat and pushing blood forward, it goes through the valve that opens in the direction of the heart. These valves then close until the next pulse where its then pushed through another valve. If it werent for one-way valve in our veins blood would pretty much just pool in your feet. The further away from the heart, the more valves that portion of the vessel contains.

    Anyhow, when injecting, its possible to be up against a valve and feels much like a clogged syringe...you'll neither get return nor be able to push. In these instances, swimmy will first try gently to push a little further and try for a register or if you know you're in good pull back a hair and try for a register. Either way, if you don't get flash, don't shoot.

    Does SWIY know that the needle is actually clogging? If they take it out of the vein, does is it still plugged or does it push alright? If the latter, swimmy would says you're on a valve. If the former then you're putting shit into your blood thats likely to give you a stroke one day and you should count lucky stars it clogged, LOL. Better in the syringe than in your head.

    J.C. is dead-on there foreign body emboli are no bueno.
     
  8. The Half Unlit

    The Half Unlit Newbie

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    Think of it this way:
    A meth addict could should meth and be high on meth for the next couple hours.
    OR
    A meth addict ends up in the hospital for the nest five days with a blood infection and either die or be in extreme pain for the next five days.

    It happened with me only with coke, sure it could be from a bunch of various risks but a particle fucking all your shit up is really fucking horrible. Its not that humorous, remember people every injection must be a controlled one in a clean environment and just one little thing can fuck it up.
     
  9. kailey_elise

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    Re: IV clogged syringe

    This seems like it might help, but one shouldn't use the syringe just because they got it unblocked. If one is able to unclog the syringe, they should then squirt it back into a cooker. If the same syringe MUST be used (and it's not recommended at this point, but it sometimes happens), it should now be rinsed a few times with water to make sure the particle(s) isn't in there still. Then a new cotton should be used to filter the cocaine shot into a syringe.

    Someone else recommended heating the needle itself to help with the blockage, & this sometimes works, but be forewarned the tip of the needle should be VERY close to a cooker, as a good deal of the time when this method of unclogging works some of the syringe's contents start squirting out. So one would want to be over a cooker so one can direct the stream back into the cooker. The same recommendation stands - if the syringe becomes unclogged, the shot should be put back into the cooker & refiltered with cotton, to hopefully filter out the offending particle(s).

    *When all else fails, hold the syringe straight up and down with the needle pointed towards the ceiling, pull the plunger back until it's almost all the way out and 'flick' the syringe so all the liquid settles on top of the plunger. Carefully position it over a cooker and gently remove the plunger completely so the shot will drain into the cooker. Then it can be refiltered into a new syringe.

    This is usually seen as the last resort to reclaim a shot, as there can be up to 10 units left in the bad syringe that can be hard to reclaim. If one can get past the clog through the point there shouldn't be any waste, but it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO USE A NEW SYRINGE, even if the clog seems to be gone.

    ~Kailey
     
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  10. BoxStar

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    Shaking the syringe will make the particles blocking the needle move but these particles will still be delivered to the bloodstream at some point during the injection or if SWIY is lucky they will block the needle again. Cooking the needle to dissolve cuts it’s a really bad idea as it will dissolve the cut or blood blocking the needle but solid particles will start to form again within seconds of removing the heat but may give enough time to slam the shot. In any case there is a serious risk of embolism. SWIM has been there for forcing through coagulating blood and its not fucking fun which is another good reason why needles should never be used more than once.

    This risk (and every other one associated with slamming cocaine) tends to be completely ignored by users; SWIM knows very well that once hooked on the needle nothing matters compared to getting that shot but still SWIY must force himself/herself to do it the safest way possible; there is really no need (or room) for extra dangers when slamming cocaine.

    Tips on preventing and dealing with clogged needles:
    -*- Never cook cocaine hydrochloride; anything that doesn’t dissolve in 0.5ml of water at 20c within 10 seconds is not cocaine and the only exception is when dissolving rocky (compressed) cocaine which will take longer to fully dissolve.
    -*- Both for powder and crack the solution must be filtered as best as possible and it must not contain any visible particles otherwise have another mixing spoon and empty the contents of the “tainted” solution, clean the syringe with water a few times if it’s not possible to use a new one and re-filter the solution into the syringe using a new filter.
    -*- Do not re-use syringes/needles, especially if SWIY has successfully registered with it as the presence of blood increases the risk of solids forming; if reuse cannot be avoided learn how to thoroughly clean a used syringe and it must be done quickly after use. The use of crack or highly cut powder is associated with rapid build-up of particulate content in the needle which will block it quickly.
    -*- The best method to unclog and clean a syringe/needle is using a solution of almost boiling water with sodium hypochlorite (commonly known as bleach); once the solution is inside the syringe it should be shaken vigorously for a couple of minutes and the solution discarded, when the needle is completely blocked indirectly warming it by submerging it in water and heating the water until the blockage dissolves and then strongly pushing hot bleach through the needle its only way to really clean it with any safety; if the needle unclogs the syringe should be rinsed many times, then several more times with clean water, allowed to cool down and re-used.

    Directly heating the needle is a bad idea as it leads to structural instability (it will break easily) and will blunt the tip. The mentioned issue of vein valves is almost never a problem for a real junkie; if SWIY can’t register just try again 1cm upstream just in case a valve was hit (hitting valves is bad and helps losing veins).
     
  11. dgkdeck

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    my dogs only rig is bent and broken can it just dump the coke /water solution out add baking soda and Mack crack???
     
  12. Nosferatus

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    Yeah you could, or put the rig in the fridge, go get a new one, dump it out and draw it up in a fresh syringe. It all depends on your individual circumstances.