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Health - If you have ordered 2C-B-fly from Haupt-RC, then your life may be in danger

Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by Alfa, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member

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    Sad news has reached us that the owner of the Danish research chemical company Haupt-RC has died on October 3rd, after the consumption of 18mg 2C-B-FLY. The owner was known under the name Minimal on this site.

    Even though 2C-B-FLY has lead to deaths before, it is not logical that a dose of 18mg would have have fatal consequences. It is possible that the 2C-B-fly that Haupt-RC sold was tainted or mislabelled.

    Haupt-RC sold 2C-B-FLY as a research chemical.

    If you have bought product from this vendor then do NOT consume it nor let others consume it.

    It is possible that HauptRC has sold 2C-B-FLY to other vendors. So it is advised to stay away from 2C-B-FLY.

    This thread is an exception on our normal rule against sources discussion. This vendor is now defunct and the present danger presses us to ignore this rule.

    Update:
    Haupt-RC has added 2C-B-FLY as a new product to its assortment on Monday September 28th and the operator of the company died from consuming it on Saturday October 3rd. Between those dates Haupt-RC has sent out an unknown number of orders around the world.

    Some of Haupt-RC's customers have been warned and thereby may have been saved from fatal ingestion. Unfortunately others have not been reached in time and have been hospitalised and died.

    Unconfirmed sources have stated that this 2C-B-FLY was sourced from a Chinese producer. This Chinese producer may be selling to other Research Chemical vendors.

    Related to this thread:
    Tainted 2C-B-FLY: a fatal trip in San Jose, Cali
    Potential things that could wrong with the synthesis of 2c-b-fly
     
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  2. Abrad

    Abrad R.I.P.

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    I would urge caution with any product bought from this vendor. Although 2c-b fly is the one that seems to be causing problems we have had reports of impure dimethocaine too. And it's probable that all of his products came from the same supplier.
    Be careful.
     
  3. Mona Lisa

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    Too true.
     
  4. lulz

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    Terrible news. On the bright side, this page is the second result on google when you search for HauptRC, and furthermore the text of the thread title appears on google's result page. It's import to get this message out, hopefully none of the tainted material is in circulation already.
     
  5. old hippie 56

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    Used stumbleupon on it this morning, hate see stuff like this hit the market.
     
  6. Abrad

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    Seems at least some of it is.
    There are reports elsewhere on the net of adverse reactions and hospitalisations.
     
  7. Synchronium

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    Perhaps we can amalgamate these recent reports in this thread?

    Can you dig them out, Abrad?
     
  8. chillinwill

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    Here is one from another forum:
     
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  9. Alfa

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    This is a 500mg bag of 2C-B-Fly that has been sent out by Haupt-RC only days before the incident. We are currently searching for a possibility to have this analysed ASAP.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. chillinwill

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    On the other forum, somebody stated that there have been reported deaths in the USA as well. As of right now though, this is totally unconfirmed.
     
  11. Synchronium

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    Surely the company can get in touch with all its customers? Someone must have access to that data?
     
  12. honourableone

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    The owner of the company died as a result of the chemical. As such, there is no one to contact customers, and close friends of the vendor would have difficulty helping police investigations and such.
     
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  13. fnord

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    Ive heard reports that a sample has been sent out for analysis,ive also heard the police confiscated some of his 2C-B-fly and are testing it as well.

    Good luck getting the police to release there results though...
     
  14. chillinwill

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    Here is another quote from the other forum:

     
  15. trips-a-hoy

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    wow, thats horrible news..... I hope everyone who bought this particular RC is fully aware of this ordeal
     
  16. chillinwill

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    Another quote from the other forum (don't know which one the poster is referring to here:

    Another quote about the ppl from the USA:

     
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  17. Abrad

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    And in response to the above post

     
  18. old hippie 56

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    Why did Wiki take the warning down?
    This is off Google search:
    2C-B-FLY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia · Flyfishing
    A recently created batch (Around October 1st 2009) of this drug is tainted or misidentified and has caused deaths at normal doses.

    Don't they care about people?
     
  19. Abrad

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    Yet more from that other forum,
     
  20. Synchronium

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    But surely more than one person works there?