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Injecting - Injecting Heroin #3 Guide

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by Tony Williams, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. Tony Williams

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    Mainly doing this for myself to see if there's summit wrong in here that I could fix/change. Please give feedback.


    First with UK brown it neeeds citric adding too it too.

    1) get drugs and go into needle exchange pharmacy for inshulin pins
    2) Make an area and just wipe down with anti-bac or alcohol and wash hands and a pair of scissors.
    3) get out spoon that comes with the kit, failing that use a real spoon flat (clean it also)
    4) drop in your dope 1-2 bags or whatever.
    5) get some plain syringes 2ml and suck up water from bathroom/kitchen - let the tap run awhile so the drains clear maybe. - sterile amps are best and I think ketttle heated then cooled is second.
    6) enough to cover the brown, like 0.3ml per 200mg bag?? Not too sure as long as it aint too thick.
    7) add low heat and some citric acid (ONE WHOLE THING DOES ROUGHLY 1G brown Heroin)
    8) keep heating and twisting so it beomes clear then once it does finsh stirring it.
    9) suck it up the needle but have a piece of cotton or cig filter (beware may contain glass) but my mates pins have BUILT IN FILTERS.
    10) Once it's all sucked up bash and flick the pin so there's NO air inside
    11) the end is slanted you want that bit nearest your vein, skin.
    12) sorta go accross your arm and hope it's in a vein.
    13) pull back and it should be DARK RED*.
    14) start injecting real slow just a notice and see how it is then work upto 1/2 then break and finsh it off.

    *If you pull out and it's BRIGHT PINK it is probably an artiey. Pull out!!! Squit and find new vein.

    When you spike yourself and unspike how many times would someone say that limit was? My mate has done it 3-4 times trying to get a vein.

    This is how SWINM has been IVing gear but it's hard getting the pin inside the vein. Anytips, etc I will update and make this better later. Peace out.
     
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  2. FenixDelta753

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    Great tutorial mate, clears up the "mystery" behind IVing at least for me.
     
  3. ftplinx

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    Swim was just curious, recently acquired some new gear that is a light brown powder and was just wondering if the gear is H#3 and just mixed with water and shot will you still feel any affects of it?

    Swim just would like to know if the gear swims using should be getting mixed with citric acid and that is why it isnt as strong , or if it is just weaker junk
     
  4. catseye

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    H3 will not dissolve without the addition of citric acid to it...if your gear is dissolving in plain water you don't need to add anything to it :)
    Hope that helps - be safe.
     
  5. FenixDelta753

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    Wait a minute, heroin virgin here.. What exactly is heroin #3?
     
  6. catseye

    catseye Gold Member

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    Heroin 3 is heroin base, and what is common here in the UK/much of Europe. It is primarily meant for smoking but can be injected if acid (ie citric) is added. It generally comes from Afghanistan.
    Heroin 4 is the resultant heroin salt and can be injected without the addition of an acid...its seen more in the US (except West Coast) and generally comes from SE Asia or Columbia - hope that helps :)
     
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  7. FenixDelta753

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    It does, thanks mate! Are those the only two options besides black tar and things like that?
     
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    hmm, I think H2 is the unreacted morphine...the numbers signify the number of steps that it goes through, so H3 is the base and H4 is what it becomes with the "extra step" of refinement.
    There's a document in the archives called "Heroin Production in Afghanistan" that explains it all far better than I can (plus has some good pictures of the process too I think)
    I've never heard of anything other than H3, H4 and Black Tar...I'm not even sure what Black tar is (as in how it's made!) :rolleyes:
     
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    I think it might be a quick and dirty form. They say it's more potent though which doesn't make sense. So all H is is morphine? So H2 would probably be morphine?
     
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    Yes, that's all it is basically - heroin quickly converts back into morphine once it enters the body.

    • raw opium gum is harvested from the poppy pod (H1 I guess).
    • opium gum is chemically processed into morphine which is pressed into bricks (H2).
    • the morphine bricks are processed with acetic anhydride (amongst other things) to create H3/smoking heroin.
    • H3 can be processed additionally to create H4, injecting heroin.

    As far as Black Tar goes, I wonder if the potency has anything to do with whatever it's cut/processed with...either way, it is apparently not pleasant on the veins :s
     
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    Wow, thanks for the awesome response. So heroin is just a name and morphine is the one doing all the work. That's very interesting
    I read that you can shoot black tar but not alone. It sounds very dirty on ones body. But not being a user of H I can't speak from experience.
     
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    u can shoot blacktar by itself , sometimes when filtered its a nice clear light yellow color and other times its a black horrible stew of sludge
     
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    How does it work in the veins? Does it congiel (spelling) back into a tar like shooting pills can do? And do you speak about this due to a dream you had about heroin or is this just research?
     
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    You're welcome ;) Back to the OP....just one thought:

    If at all possible...just once. Needle tips become blunted from the first piercing, and cause a lot of damage to the veins when reused even just a few times. Here's a microscopic image of a needle showing the progressive blunting after repeated injections - its been shown on the forum in other threads before but I think it speaks better than words :s

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    Nasty isn't it? You can see the tip beginning to curve after just the first use! New needles every time, whenever possible to preserve your veins.
    Be safe everyone.
     
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    This is caused just by skin contact??
     
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    FenixDelta.

    This comes from sticking the needle through skin tissue and eventual scar tissue on the veins, if the injection site has been hit before.

    Most experienced users know when the needle has become too blunt to actually be able to hit the vein by the feeling it gives when the needle goes through the skin.
    (anyone who knows it will know what I mean) ggddrrtrrtrrrt *shudder*

    But the only safe way for your veins is to use a new needle after each attempted hit, successful or not.
    This, amongst others I come to below, is the main reason why I advocate NOT using insuline rigs with connected needle but seperate syringe and needle, so one can change after unsuccessful hit.
    The other reason is that insuline needles are not made for intravenous injection, the cut on the tip is not really sharp enough to work like a proper needle which is made for venipuncture.

    The main reason why people use insuline rigs is the accessability of those.
    I am sorry to say that I had to educate even people in needle exchanges about this facts.

    FenixDelta,
    I hope I could shed a ligt on your above question(s)

    TBBW
     
  17. FenixDelta753

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    Yes you did, thank you for that. Its surprising to me that skin can do that to even thin metal, it looks like that thing was hitting rocks. The human body never ceases to amaze me.

    Also, its disturbing to me that you've had to tell people about this at needle exchanges. We need to be educating these people the right way. They should hire ex addicts. They're supposed to be reducing harm..
     
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    It is disturbing to me, too.
    And I second to you that we are the ones who have to educate these people for harm reduction 's sake. I wouldn't have happened to walk over the facts concerning the cut of needle if I had not worked for years and years in the sterile supply of a university hospital in Germany and so having access to technical data of needles and many other "medicinical" devices.
    Insuline rigs as well as too little changing injections sites are the main reason why IDUs loose the ability to use veins on the surface of their body and change to dangerous sites as the groin, thus damaging their bodies more and more and getting deep vein thrombosis and strokes due to damaged veins.
    And this all begins with needles!"

    I dare invoke any reader to pass on this knowledge to other users and to staff of needle exchanges.

    Sorrx for being off topic.

    TBBW
     
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    not to come off disrespectful,but i still dont understand how insulin syringes arent as sharp and iv syringes,i really dont want to throw away 80 brand new u100 syringes because there bad......
     
  20. FenixDelta753

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    Wouldn't that be because they're insulin can be injected IM and they don't need to go through the wall of the veins. I assume you could use these, but only use them once or so. DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT!!! i don't want to be responsible for anything happening, but I'm just guessing as to the reason here.