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Injecting - injecting ice

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by hewilhite, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. hewilhite

    hewilhite Newbie

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    hi all. swim is kind of new to the injection of meth/ice. normally swim is a cocaine user but has come across some really good shit. anyway, i was reading in another post that you shouldnt heat meth because it causes it to evaporate. i guess swims first question is, are meth and ice the same thing? i mean, swim knows that they kinda are but they look totally different. and second question, do you heat the ice with the water in the spoon to melt it down? swim has been but came across that post about the meth evaporating and was just curious. thanks!
     
  2. Pumpkin

    Pumpkin Silver Member

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    swim has always thought of ice and meth as the same. maybe its not though who knows.

    dont heat it. its pointless. it will fully dissolve in h2o without heat. anything that doesnt dissolve isnt meth and should be filtered out.

    swim has only ived it about 5 times. his stuff would always completely dissolve in h2o, which doesnt really mean that much. many cutting agents are water-soluble. such as MSM

    meth iv is quite painful if swiy misses the vein, and can leave a mark
     
  3. hewilhite

    hewilhite Newbie

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    and it burns like a bitch! thanks! much appreciated.
     
  4. mbarnes0

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    Missing a shot of methamphetamine is very painful, but a missed meth shot is way more likely to cause problems with infection/abscess over missing a shot of an opiate.

    SWIY never wants to heat meth, ice, or any amphetamine really. The heat is just destroying the dope.
    SWIM would always have to advise not to IV any drug but realizes people are going to.

    SWIM puts the amount he wants to do in the spoon and kinda crushes up the larger shards.
    Adds 30-40 units of water to the spoon.
    If its that bomb-digity dope he just sits back and lets it dissolve. SWIM may have to swirl/stir it around a little bit to get it all completely dissolved. If the dope is chopped all to hell, there could be anything left sitting in the spoon that won't dissolve out.
    Draw up through a filter. Pay Attention! If there is shit that didn't dissolve out, you do not want to accidentally draw any type of particles up inside the rig.
    SWIY seems to know what to do from here it.

    SWIM hopes SWIY practices some harm reduction as much as possible.
     
  5. deadheadale

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    ice does not have to be melted down to inject. just put it in a spoon with distilled water and stir it around. meth is water soluble. the heavy contaminates will sink to the bottom. then pull it up and enjoy the ride:)
     
  6. BumpBump

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    treat it the same you would coke, even to the dose... 0.25g is a bell ringer and not for the first time
     
  7. tank34

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    swim could remember the day when .25 was a bell ringer. hahahaha now swim does about 3-4 of those just to get normal and then the next .25 is the bell ringer haha does that make sense??
     
  8. Mick Mouse

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    I'm not entirely certain what that last post was, but it was...interesting. Ice and meth are NOT the same thing, and those who say otherwise are sadly mistaken. Meth is, obviously, methamphetamine, while ice is 4-Methylaminorex, or 4-MAR, EU4EA, or who knows what other acronym. 4-Methylaminorex is the correct name, however.

    Ice, when properly manufactured, is considerably more potent in both strength and addictiveness than meth. Because they look similar, unscrupulous dealers will often call meth "ice" in an attempt to market it as the stronger product. Believe me, there will be absolutely NO doubt in your mind if you ever get a hold of real ice!

    Because meth dissolves so easily in water, there is normally no need to heat the water past what comes out of the faucet. The exception might be if you are doing a super-saturated solution as a blast, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

    I have found, back when I still bothered with things like this, that the best way was to crush your product as fine as possible, add your pre-heated water, and allow to sit for a moment or two until it has dissolved. Stir a bit if necessary, filter, and draw up. The key was to crush as fine as possible and just wait on the water!
     
  9. ubsweet2me

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    Swim just posted a querry earlier, and this thread might be his answer.

    Swim thinks he might have gotten hold of ice a couple weeks ago on vacation and IV'd it. To be sure it was the most intense and shocking flash from a .4g point in his life.

    According to this thread, there is a subtle difference between ice and meth. So Swim was wondering if it is impossible to purify meth powder to that nifty sensation he'd experienced on vacation with the more hard core stuff from the big city tweakers.
     
  10. MrAsia

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    As a frequent user of ice SWIM can tell you that ice easily dissolves in cold water you don't need to heat up anything. You don't need to melt it down, if the crystal is nice and phat then just crush it up into fine powder. For breaking up large crystals so it easily dissolves in water just leave the big crystal in the plastic baggie that you get it in and crush it with a hard object against a hard surfer. For example, SWIM would put the bag of ice on SWIM's computer table and use the bottom end of a lighter and press on the ice, this crushes it up easily into tiny powder and leaves you with white fine powder in the baggie.

    If your worried that you might leave bits of the ice powder in the baggie then put the ice onto your mixing spoon and crush it in there so you don't waste any amount. Just make sure you crush it carefully so you don't spill any thing outside the spoon.

    Or if you mix your ice inside the fresh needle wrapper like SWIM some times when SWIM doesn't carry any spoons around then wrap the big crystals around in the needle wrapper then then crush it. Wrapping it around with the plastic ensure the crush ice won't spill out. =D

    Thats what pretty much SWIM does every time before mixing it up to shoot. Those phat gorgeous crystals need to be finely crushed up to properly dissolve for injecting. Alot of times SWIM sees people trying to dissolve the big crystals but in the end still leaving behind a tiny rock of ice. Thats just wasteful, crush it up so it can all dissolves and you get all the ice.

    =D
     
  11. jt18023

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    There was a cat i know who started with IV hes a big IV user mostly his subutext was his iv choice(obviously it was heeoin but the fyntanal is killing his cat buddies and is scared to play that game of russian roulette). This cat realized when he had meth in his system that it was also in his blood (obviously) when the blood draws into the rig the meth is also being drawn into the rig. This caused problems!!!! The meth would burn and cause painful marks that the opiates would not. The cat use to think it was the residue left over that caused this but no it was the blood. Iv meth is the best way to get an abcess no other drug will cause as much problems because its recrystallizes when it misses. The cat would watch pieces of meth come out of his skin which is freaky sober let alone when the cat is all spun out. This cat now smoke his meth to avoid all these problems . The subutex is one of the worst to boot on your body/ viens but is childs play compared to meth. Nothing beats a point .3iv meth rush that floating is insane but if you miss you are guaranteed an abcess almost everytime. The body does not bresk down cystals let alone ones made with lithium and all that good stuff they make meth with. The cats advice is to smoke youre meth if you have trouble hitting which most iv users do and if you need a shot while high do it IM to avoid the meth filled blood. Anyways this cat is about harm reduction nothing is worse than going to the hoslital with an obvious IV injury except maybe cutting and lancing it by ones self is worse. This cat had to do that a couple times. The cat managed to fill a quart full of jelly puss blood in a jar. If it wasnt for the rare chance of having strong antibiotics this cat would of most likely got an infection and would ultimatly end up in the hospital which was the place the cat
    Was trting to avoid in the first plave By no means does my cat friend suggest doing that, always see a proffesional 90%(made up stat) of the time home surgery makes the wound a lot worse and infected.