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  1. Clevername

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    I am interested in growing Amanita muscarias indoors, but hasn't found any source saying this is possible. Anyone out ther know for sure?
     
  2. DrMuffy

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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    yes, it is possible, I have read up about this and axually ordered some fly agaric spores from xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and take it from SWIM, dont buy from there, they just ripped him off.


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  3. Clevername

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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Any details You can provide? Do they need to use some sort of tree or can they use a regular culture? Why was this place such a rip off?
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    SWIM grew his (later) without the help of a tree, and then grew fine, I used the rice cake method. I should have known better then to post he name of this site, but they are just a fake shroom spore site, and when SWIM sent them his order along with a paypal order, they never replied and cashed the money order, and never sent SWIM the spores
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    Sorry to hear that.

    Anyway thanx for the info, though:)
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    DrMuffy;
    Could you please go into more detail about the method used to grow A. Muscaria. I have never before heard anyone claim to have done this and any data I can find suggest it is impractical (at best) and certainly not possible using rice cake.
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    As far as I know, it is impossible to grow Amanita Muscaria. Many trustable sources say this. Biologically speaking, the fly agaric doesn't grow well without a tree. This is because Amanitas need to connect their mycelium to the roots of a tree (symbiosis). The best tree under which to grow Amanita Muscaria is the birch.

    If you ask me, it just isn't worth trying and that's probably why nobody reported any successful growing experiment. But if You is really interested in trying this, the only way to efficently grow Amanitas would be giving them the same nutrients that the birch gives them. But that's just theory.

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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    Amanita muscaria has been grown by a mushroom farm in Holland and exported to the UK, to fill the gap left by the magic mushroom ban.
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    Do you have any information on how they did it, Alfa? I'm just curious.
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    I intent to try to get that for you. Although I have inquired before, without the grower "unveiling his secret".
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    Maybe they're growing them outdoors, under Birch trees?
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    I would be interested to hear more on that as well, since AFAIK it is damn
    near impossible to grow a. muscaria indoors (and difficult to actually
    'cultivate' them outdoors). Obviously, symbiosis is a problem but also the
    mycelial network can take a year or two to develop enough to begin
    producing fruits. Plus, mimicing fruiting conditions would probably be a
    huge pain in the ass.

    I've only heard of one success growing them indoors in a lab setting (I
    think that was in Russia or something), but haven't heard any confirmation
    on that so am skeptical...
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    theres not a hope in hell of attempting to grow a , muscaria unless uv got some kind of forest in ur house lol
     
  15. Clevername

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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    ha ha ha so case in close, I't possible to grow a muscaria indoors, just not in an apartment. I

    nteresting stuff though. Now II am just curious about how these othe places achieve this feat.
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    could u not inject spore under a birch tree and let it grow.
    so u could have an outdoor patch to go back to each year.
     
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    Re: Possible to grow Amanita muscaria indoors?

    I am planning to try and grow indoors in a foresty fishtank (with roots of birch, oak and so on) just to see if it works. This might work, I think, because mushroom can live off of dead roots also. Any opinions on this?

    I have also heard about someone who cultivated the mycelium in grapejuice, and then heated the juice so that the fluid got more potent. Is this just bs? This will of course not grow the actual shroom, but You should get the same effect.