is marijuana harmful

Discussion in 'Cannabis & Health' started by pato_otnc, Jun 28, 2005.

  1. pato_otnc

    pato_otnc Newbie

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    i have been smoking for about 7 years and im not really scared of the brain damage if it exists but what about cancer in my lungs? is it for sure that i will get cancer? and if so in how much time do people normally get cancer?

    just curious
     
  2. Motorhead

    Motorhead Platinum Member & Advisor

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    The battle to legalize marijuina has produced volumes of studies, research, articles, and of course propaganda on both sides of the arguement. To wade through it all would boggle the mind. I just look at the situation and people around me and come up with my own conclusions.


    Smoke of any kind isnt supposed to be in your lungs. Smoking anything over a period of time will irritate them and cause chronic coughs, phlem, all that good stuff. The two points about the cancer causing effects rotate around the substances in the weed and how often it is smoked compared to cigarettes. Cigarrette smokers, generally, smoke alot more tobacco in the run of a day than a toker smokes weed. There is tonnes of carcinogens and toxins in tobacco, not so much in weed.


    Anyway i dont believe there is massive proof that people are dropping off like flies from cancer from habitual weed use. Is it possible? probably, but unless your smoking the equivalent of a pack of cigerrettes worth of weed a day for 20 or more years every day, I wouldnt worry to much about it.
     
  3. AdrenalineJunki

    AdrenalineJunki Silver Member

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    you may or may not... thats life
     
  4. JewishNazi

    JewishNazi Gold Member Newbie

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    Bob marley is believed to be the only person thus far to die from
    marijuana. because marijuana isnt chemically treated like tobacco is,
    it contains (in my beleifs0 much less tar and whatnot.



    If you are worried about possibly getting cancer, get a vapouriser so
    that you arent taking in the smoke, just the vapourised THC
     
  5. Nicaine

    Nicaine Titanium Member

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    Thing about marijuana is it may have a lot of tars etc. but people don't typicall smoke 20-40 cigarettes worth per day, like with tobacco. Sure tho, it'll increase lung cancer risk. Particularly on top of regular cigarettes. If seriously concerned, there are other routes of administration that may be weird at first but could be gotten used to (e.g. eating, making tea, etc).

    Re: how long? Depends on numerous factors, especially genetics. Most people who are gonna get lung cancer seem to get it between ages 50 & 80, or thereabouts. It's sort of a bell curve, and there are people at the far end who will get lung cancer at age 25 or 30... might as well face all possibilities with open eyes.Edited by: Nicaine
     
  6. Nature Boy

    Nature Boy Gold Member

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    Where did you get that from? Bob Marley didn't die of smoking related illness. He died of a cancerous brain tumour and many medical experts suggest he may have died a lot sooner had it not been for his marijuana use.

    Source: Ask Yahoo
     
  7. psykochamane

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    He died from a "melanome", a skin cancer, a disease of blank (because his father was him.)[​IMG] Edited by: psykochamane
     
  8. psykochamane

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    In July 1977, Marley was found to have a wound on his right big toe, which he thought was from a soccer injury. The wound would not completely heal, and his toenail later fell off during a soccer game. It was then that the correct diagnosis was made. Marley actually had a form of skin cancer, malignant melanoma, which grew under his toenail. He was advised to get his toe amputated, but he refused because of the Rastafarian belief that doctors are samfai, confidence men who cheat the gullible by pretending to have the power of witchcraft. He also was concerned about the impact the operation would have on his dancing; amputation would profoundly affect his career at a time when greater success was close at hand. Still, Marley based this refusal on his Rastafarian beliefs, saying, "Rasta no abide amputation. I and I don't allow a mon ta be dismantled." [Catch a Fire, Timothy White] He did have surgery to try to excise the cancer cells. The cancer was kept a secret from the wider public.
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    The cancer spread to his brain, his lungs and his stomach. While on tour in the summer of 1980 trying to break into the US market, he collapsed jogging in NYC's Central Park. This was after a series of shows in England and at Madison Square Garden. The illness made him unable to continue with the large tour planned. Marley sought help, and decided to go to Munich in order to receive treatment from controversial cancer specialist Josef Issels for several months, but it was to no avail.
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    A month before his death, he was awarded Jamaica's Order of Merit. He wanted to spend his final days in Jamaica but he became too ill on the flight home from Germany and had to land in Miami. He passed away at Cedars of Lebanon Hospital in Miami, Florida on May 11, 1981. Before his death he was baptised into the Coptic Orthodox Church. and took the name Berhane Selassie (meaning the Light of the Holy Trinity in Coptic). His funeral in Jamaica was a dignified affair with combined elements of Ethiopian Orthodoxy and Rastafarianism. He is buried in a crypt at Nine Miles, near his birthplace.


    Source :wiki/Bob_Marley#Battle_with_cancer
     
  9. psykochamane

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    <H3>Long-term physical effects of smoking</H3>


    In some ways, the effects of smoking cannabis are similar to the effects of smoking any substance. Any time you inhale smoke, the respiratory system is adversely affected. These effects are particularly apparent with repeated and prolonged use. Studies have pointed out that cannabis produces more tar and burns at a higher temperature than tobacco. Some cannabis smokers inhale the smoke more deeply and hold it in their lungs for a longer period of time. However, the average cannabis user smokes less frequently, and there is evidence that cannabinoids present in cannabis may actually serve to protect against cancer. [5] Furthermore, the concentration of toxic and carcinogenic additives such as nicotine, arsenic, and radium-226, is substantially greater in tobacco cigarettes than in cannabis.


    While some studies have demonstrated a correlation between cannabis use and lung cancer, this might primarily indicate only that cannabis use may correlate with tobacco use, and more objective scientific attention is needed to separate these and other factors in order to better understand the potential long-term physiological effects of cannabis use itself.


    Sources : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)
     
  10. Motorhead

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    Great post psychochame. I like the point you made about the correlation between tobacco and cannabis, because alot of people who smoke cannabis also smoke cigarettes. Im wondering if there is a study done solely on cannabis only users to determine the effects of cannabis alone on the lungs. Trouble is studies of this nature must take so long to accomplish.