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Drug info - Is molly powder MDMA?

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by college, Jul 16, 2005.

  1. college

    college Newbie

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    What is molly anyway?
     
  2. markdahman

    markdahman Silver Member

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    Molly is a chemical (MDMA)
    E is a pill with MDMA in it.

    1 e pill = 100 mg of molly (ABOUT)

    Molly is just pure e. Bliss
     
  3. raven3davis

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    Some pills are just molly in a pill but lots are molly (MDMA) + lots of other shit that effect the roll significantly. 100mg molly (mdma) and a pill with 100mg mdma and nothing else in it will cause the same effects but if the pill has 100mg mdma + speed + whatever else it will alter your roll. Speed will obviously make it speedier, as will mda. MDA will also make it more trippy and both will make the comedown a bit worse in many cases. Molly is said to have the least hangover. Pills can also contain DXM, PCP, cocaine, ephedrine, research chemicals, ketamine, cocaine, really just about anything. Some pills have even tested positive for synthetic opiates like fentanyl. There isnt much logic in putting yay in a pill but it has been done. Some adulterants effect the roll more than others. For instance, some pills have DXM in small amounts which really doesnt effect the roll very much. It all depends whats in the pill, but molly is just MDMA which is in lots of pills but not all. In some regions molly and pills are basically the same because the pills from that area arent normally adulterated, but in most cases pills and molly are way different because the pills are cut to hell.
     
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    Re: Molly - Please enlighten!

    Molly?Swim thinks this person is talking about e and under the impression the drug he is getting is something totally different.A dealer probably told him it was "molly"to trick him into buying.
     
  5. sterling77

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    Re: Molly - Please enlighten!

    USTFSE. Molly is pure mdma powder. XTC is pressed pills based around mdma and speed. They usually have a mixture, but can have only one or none of those two. Other random ingrediants are thrown in such as caffeine and ephedrine, to things related to mdma (mda or mde), and less commonly pma and dxm.
     
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    Re: Molly - Please enlighten!

    Molly means pure MDMA powder, usually in gelcaps. Molly isn't "better" than REAL ecstasy (which is SUPPOSED to be MDMA), but since a lot of "ecstasy" isn't MDMA or at least has other shit in it, molly is probably going to be purer. That being said it is possible to get molly that's already been cut (hard to tell since it's usually just white powder in a gelcap unless you know the supplier and/or watch the dealer chop it up and cap it) but usually molly is pretty pure. Moreover it's a lot easier to weigh/dose, your supplier should know the exact mg amount of MDMA in the caps, and if not you can weigh it yourself, a lot more exact than any e tab.

    Molly is definately a good buy if you can find it.
     
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    Re: Questions about molly

    Molly, is slang for a powdered product reputed to contain MDMA. It may or may not. It may arrive in gelatin capsules, wrapped up in a paper packaged as powder, or a number of other methods. Molly only refers to the powdered product. Pills would be referred to as ecstasy. Dosages for MDMA gos from 125-160mg for responsible users. Doses for Molly would be higher because molly is never pure MDMA.
     
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    Re: Questions about molly

    Not true. Illegally produced MDMA will pretty much always have impurities left from imperfect synthesis/not cleaning the product fully at the end. Don't have any figures to hand but as far as I can remember from when people have said they've had it tested, it's usually in the 80-90% purity range (obviously this can vary and there are no guarantees).
     
  10. dreamz

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    Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    So molly is capsules and pills are pills, right? I keep hearing from people that molly is pure as opposed to pills. Logically, this doesn't make sense to me. Why would producers dilute pills but not powder?

    So are molly capsules really more pure? And if they are - why?
     
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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    you are correct to be skeptical. none of these are regulated-obviously-and both pills and molly have and will continue to be adulterated with active and non-active substances. in fact, some have noted how much easier it is to dilute molly than pills (which would have to be repressed, but molly could be cut every time it changes hands!)

    while molly being pure may have been the reality for those users, and may in fact be true in most cases, that is no guarantee it would be true in your experience. in the world of illegal substances, the saying 'buyer beware' definitely applies. (not suggesting you would; this is all hypothetical)

    with either pills or molly it is a good idea to get a test kit, which will at least tell whether there is a presence of an mdxx substance and some of the more common active adulterants (ie amphetamine). then you can go a further step and have it lab tested at ecstasydata.org which will tell the ratios between the active substances and can identify more things than test kits such as piperazines and caffeine. however in the USA the amounts of the substances are not allowed to be divulged, so even though a sample of molly or a pill might be "pure", it may still be very weak if it is diluted by non-active adulterants. (and don't think you can tell by looking as some will claim; there are plenty of non-active substances that look like crystals and will not react with a test kit and taste bitter!)

    and note that for some reason it is much more expensive to test powders through them than pills...
     
  12. rocksmokinmachine

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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    No, molly is UK slang for Cystal MDMA 90-95% pure. It usually appears as clear or rarely off-white glass type shards and it more potent than your average "Ecstasy Pill". Be very careful dose 80mg for females, 120mg for males. Go steady now....

    Oh, by the way, "Molly", MDMA should turn black, bubble and often smoke when test
     
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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    Actually, Mr. Hamster has traveled extensively around the world and it's not just a UK slang phrase. He's heard it all over as well, and people usually know that "molly" is the powder or crystal form of MDMA.

    It can be administered any number of ways, capsules being just one.

    The hamster has seen varying degrees of off-whitish crystals and powder all the way to tan or brownish crystals and powders, sometimes a bit what looked like reddish purple. He's never found it already packaged in capsules, he's always found it loose or in tablets and prefers it to be large crystals (the off-whitish/grey was some of the best he ever had which also had a faint smell of rootbeer - ah, the hamster was daydreaming).

    The coloration of the powders and crystals can be caused by a great many things from impurities left from processing or rushed work, or possibly adulterants or coloring for "branding" purposes. It's any hamster or chinchilla's guess as to what it might be, and beyond the scope of the forum to even venture an accurate guess. A good testing kit is a must, or positively knowing the source of the synth.

    Some of this has already been discussed in this thread:

    Relevance of different coloured pills or powder?

    SWIrocksmokinmachine's orangutan is correct in mentioning that some might be sensitive, and girl hamsters also appear to be more sensitive to dose than boy hamsters. However, the MAPS guidelines and studies on PTSD used an approved dose of 120mg for the participants in the study.

    There's more information regarding dosage guidelines by body mass in the sticky here:

    Pure mdma dosage question

    Mr. Hamster hopes all the other hamsters and chinchillas are safe and have fun.

    Be well...
     
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  14. EscapeDummy

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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    Yeah, molly is a popular term here in the west coast of the USA. Swim has had flour-white molly, as well as slightly off white molly. The best molly he ever had was this caramel-brown molly, which surprised him. swim was sketched that it was brown molly but it ended up being great.
     
  15. Enlightenment

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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    SWIM hates to reiterate, but the unfortunate part about all of this is unless swiy are willing to test or insuffilate a certain batch, swiy really have no idea how pure it is, no matter the color, texture, smell, granulation, etc. swim has come across three or four batches of molly that have more or less looked the same to the human eye, but after experience of what a point of each does, it became very clear that how it looked made no difference; the purity of the batches was SIGNIFICANTLY different, where one point is almost twice as strong as a point of another.
    molly does not, by any necessary means, mean pure.
    Goodness, if only psychiatrists around the world would continually push for the beneficial uses for mdma, or the testing of these uses, thus allowing more chemists to create mdma without the intense worry of the DEA enforcement personnel's watchful eye.
    SWIM would say buying powder may be a safer bet than buying pills. this is just from his somewhat limited experience. but nonetheless, a pill at a concert could literally have anything in it, and powder is usually a little harder to find, more expensive, and as a result seemingly more pure. swim has made it a personal point from here to refuse pills, and only accept powdered molly because of close encounters. At the very least, there are many fewer binders and god only knows what in the nasal cavities.
    be safe, hear say means nothing, and until one tries or tests a batch or talks to the chemist in charge, one can't know anything
    peace
     
  16. dreamz

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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    Yea. The whole history of MDMA prohibition has been a scam right from the start. DEA initially obtained emergency powers ban under completely staged harm-proving experiments on animals. Then there was the famous "holes in your brain" lie. Then the "it causes Parkinson's" lie study - which was retracted after govt chemist said he used speed instead of MDMA by mistake.

    Very said and depressing. Luckily MDMA is the second most widely used drug in USA - after marijuana. So most likely, it's next in line to get legalized. I want to see as much effort to legalize MDMA as I see to legalize marijuana. Let's spread the word and confront government lies together!

    dreamz added 201 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

    It's being done by this group, with success. They proved in a recent study that MDMA is effective against Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

    MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
     
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    Re: Is "Molly" Really More Pure than "Pills"?

    This is getting a bit side-tracked as a discussion. However, Mr. Hamster thinks the political discussion should go over to the "News Forum" and especially to this item:

    MDMA's empathogenic properties revealed to be a sham

    That being said, the hamster thinks test kits are invaluable, and one can never truly know what's in his treats unless he has a GC/MS sitting in his garage.

    Generally one could assert that "molly" is purer that pills just based on binders and fillers alone. First and foremost is to know the source if possible and test, test, test, until a hamster or chinchilla gets it right.

    Be well...