Is this herbal X recipe possible?

Discussion in 'Herbal Ecstasy' started by William_Again, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    Anyone ever tried this? Someone posted this on another thread and that
    person seems to have dissappeared, but they claimed it comes close to
    X. Is there any dangers with this combonations? Anyone know the amounts
    needed to create noticable effects?





    Piper Nigrum Extract (containing 100 mg benzyl diethylene diamine
    dihydrochloride, 50 mg tri fluoro methyl phenyl diethylene diamine
    hydrochloride), Capsicum Annum, Theobroma Cacao (contains
    phenethylamine), l-tyrosine, l-phenylalanine, l-glutamiine, glycine,
    magnesium aspartate and vitamine C.



    Dosage: 1 tab. Duration:>4 hours.



    Don't combine wth Prozac, MAOis or SSRis.
     
  2. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    is there possibly a way to change certain ingridients to create a
    substances with more cocaine/amphetamine effects rather than x?
     
  3. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    Piper nigrum extract does not contain BZP nor TFMPP, unless you add it. Cacao does contain beta-phenethylamine, but this is inactive. What is active is theobromine(stimulantin the range of cafeine)and anandamine(THC like euphoriant). Capsicum increases the uptake of ingested substances. The other ingredients are important for the building of neurotransmitters. In other words, they support the effect of the active ingredients of this product: the piperazines. So in fact you are dealing with a research chemical mix, instead of a herbal E. I very much doubt that there is any piper nigrum in the product. If you want more stimulating effect you need to up the BZP and lower the TFMPP. Note that upping the BZP may lead to unwanted sideeffects.
     
  4. JewishNazi

    JewishNazi Gold Member Newbie

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    That is simply the ingredients for 'Frenzy one of the piperazine based alternatives for meth.


    If those amounts are per dose, I wouldnt bother unless you are a light weight. If they were for each capsule (usually needing two caps for a dose) That would be pretty good
     
  5. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    mmm well thanks for the info.
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