Injecting - Ketamine exploration: IM vs. IV

Discussion in 'Ketamine' started by Beltane, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. Beltane

    Beltane Palladium Member

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    First, I believe snorting K to be a complete waste of time and money, that's why I'm not mentioning it in this post.



    Now, From the reading I've done online and the books I could find about K,
    the IV dosage looks like it should be about half of the IM dosage. I'm
    looking for someone w/ experience to confirm this and possibly talk
    about the differences in experiences between IV and IM application
    methods. Especially interested in how long it lasts IV. I get about 50-60 minutes out of IM.





    I usually do 100 - 150 IM, so i'll probably start playing w/ IV between
    50 and 75. I did 45 IV once and had some killer telepathic experiences
    (tho the other people involved did not:) This was far from a
    controlled experiment tho as there were other mitigating
    factors/chemicals.





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  2. devil

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    SWIM's veins are not very visible, so possibly sometimes wind up IM
    when trying for IV. IV just hits so must stronger and faster for SWIM.
    I am talking barely time to pull out the needle before collapsing. Your
    dosage sounds fine to me.



    Agree that powder is just wasting your money. Though, a lot of people
    look down at using needles, it is the cleanest, most efficient way.
    (just don't be using used ones!)
     
  3. Beltane

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    How long does IV last vs. IM? It's cool if it lasts the same
    length of time because then it only costs about 1/2 as much. I'm
    guessing it might last half as long. Problem w/ that is that when
    I have it, I can do 10 - 30 IM shots a day. Doing the same IV
    would have me looking like a pin cushion in an afternoon:)



    Thanks-



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    Yeah, IV is much better but it is a pain (literally) to locate that
    vein. Rejabbing especially when you are not 100% sober is not a good
    thing. IM, just jab your arm or butt. As for lasting, seems to
    last about the same, just deeper trips. I have literally passed right
    on the floor just as SWIM pulled the needle out.
     
  5. Beltane

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    Not to belabor the point, but are people saying that IV K lasts just as
    long, is just as fun and takes 1/2 as much K?! That would be
    really cool!



    Guess you could always start IV and then if you can't do it next time just IM it.



    I'm gong to do some more exploring mixing around 1/10gm C w/ my K,
    which I did once and had a really cool telepathic (my side only:)
    experience when I IV'd it.



    Thanks-



    - B