Kiwi Party Pill Research Could Lead To Oz Ban

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  1. Alfa

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    KIWI PARTY PILL RESEARCH COULD LEAD TO OZ BAN - PAPER
    WAIKATO, New Zealand (NZPA) -- Research showing overdoses with "herbal" party pills in New Zealand have resulted in hundreds of people needing hospital treatment may lead to the pills being banned in Australia.
    A study, by Waikato Hospital's Dr Tonia Nicholson, found 125 of 1043 emergency admissions at a New Zealand hospital were the result of over-indulging in herbal party pills.
    Cabinet Minister Jim Anderton, who is in charge of drugs policy, said in January there were three research projects currently underway into the effects of benzylpiperazine (BZP), the active ingredient in legal party pills.
    If the pills, which can currently be sold to anyone over the age of 18, were proved sufficiently dangerous they could be banned, he said.
    The stimulants produce effects similar to amphetamines: users risk organ damage, seizures, high blood pressure and hyperthermia by taking too many or mixing them with alcohol.
    Dr Nicholson said one New Zealander had died after mixing BZP with amphetamines and two others had been in intensive care after taking the pills.
    The pills have been responsible for hundreds of recent drug overdoses in New Zealand, and Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration
    (TGA) is deciding whether their key ingredients - pepper extracts benzylpiperazine (BZP) and trifluromethylpiperazine - should be slapped with Australia-wide sales restrictions, the Sun Herald newspaper reported in Melbourne.
    BZP pills are illegal in NSW, Queensland and Western Australia and are not readily available in Victorian retail outlets.
    National's Otago MP Jacqui Dean has previously called for the Government to impose tighter restrictions on advertising, banning the sale of pills from bars and liquor shops and keeping them under the counter and out of sight in shops.

    Source: Waikato Times (New Zealand)
     
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    NZ PARTY PILL EPIDEMIC MAY LEAD TO AUSTRALIAN BAN ON BZP
    Research showing overdoses with "herbal" party pills in New Zealand have resulted in hundreds of people needing in hospital treatment may lead to the pills being banned in Australia.
    A study, by Waikato Hospital's Dr Tonia Nicholson, found 125 of 1043 emergency admissions at a New Zealand hospital were the result of over-indulging in herbal party pills.
    Cabinet Minister Jim Anderton, who is in charge of drugs policy, said in January three research projects currently underway into the effects of benzylpiperazine (BZP), the active ingredient in legal party pills.
    If the pills, which can currently be sold to anyone over the age of 18, were proved sufficiently dangerous they could be banned, he said.
    The stimulants produce effects similar to amphetamines: users risk organ damage, seizures, high blood pressure and hyperthermia by taking too many or mixing them with alcohol.
    Dr Nicholson said one New Zealander had died after mixing BZP with amphetamines and two others had been in intensive care after taking the pills.
    The pills have been responsible for hundreds of recent drug overdoses in New Zealand, and Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) is deciding whether their key ingredients -- pepper extracts benzylpiperazine (BZP) and trifluromethylpiperazine -- should be slapped with Australia-wide sales restrictions, the Sun Herald newspaper reported in Melbourne.
    BZP pills are illegal in NSW, Queensland and Western Australia and are not readily available in Victorian retail outlets.
    National's Otago MP Jacqui Dean, has previously called for the Government to impose tighter restrictions on advertising, banning the sale of pills from bars and liquor shops and keeping them under the counter and out of sight in shops.

    Source: New Zealand Herald
     
  3. kemistudent

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    Dang, the stuff is pretty dangerous. Why is it the U.S is the first to always ban these recreational drugs?! Swim never got a chance to check BZP out, and now after reading all this negative media coverage on the compound, he doesn't know if it's even worth it. But still, I have to wonder, is the U.S like the coolest kid on the block when it comes to abusing drugs?! It's almost as if the drug was abused here first then caught on elsewhere.
     
  4. a-SalviaLover

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    Dangerous or no this is the way it should be. They shouldn't be banned. The article says 125 out of 1043 emergency cases. And how many were there because of alcohol? How many of these 125 cases were because of the combination with alcohol or other drugs. Legal highs is the best way to kill the illegal drug market. Just some of the illegal drugs should be revised and legalised. But no doubt this is the best way. I hope that they wont get banned no matter whether they are good or not. Laws like these in the NZ or in the Netherlands are the only route to the society accepting drugs as another way to entertainment, different from those accepted by them (drinking alcohol for example).I hope they wont piss this off.


    BTW I tried BZP Bicarbonate and found it very good. He even liked it more than amphetamines because of the happiness it produced. And he had none of the side effects reported and the post crash didn't look worser than the amphetamine crash (although it was different). And he found the substnace with less abuse potential than amphs. Amphetamines tend to make SWIM want to use them not for fun or because of the euphoria, but to improve every day life performance. He has problems with concentration and small doses of amphs help him a lot. BZP is quite speedy, but he didn't found it suitable for improving performance on a different place than at a party (where it surely works well). The comination with MJ was quite trancey and speedy at the same time aka very interesting. (I don't feel the effects of MJ while on amphs).
     
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  5. Thirdedge

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    Virtually all those overdoses can be linked to one or two 'Cowboy' operators, making dodgey products with extremly varible dose. Hopefully our goverment makes some manufacturing restrictions quickly before these guys bring about a total prohibition and hands the total market over to the gangs.
     
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    I think that the the users of these pills need to be taught about harm minimisation. I think that alot of users believe that because its a legal pill its not strong.

    WRONG!

    I have taken these pills on about 10 occassions, and she thinks that the side effects are a major health hazard, more so than extacy is. In fact, I find that she sweats heaps more on piperazine pills, and has a much bigger problem with grinding her teeth than when she takes E. This, combined with the usual oblivion to bodily discomfort, leaves SWIM susceptible to dehydration, which she manages to avoid on E. She has also cracked 2 teeth in 1 night on Red Hearts!

    These pills are heaps of fun, BUT the user needs to take precautions to minimise the negative side effects of these drugs, just like with illicit drug use.

    Just because the stuff is legal, it doesn't mean it's a soft drug! These pills are hard core! If every user understood this, they wouldn't mix them with copious amounts of alcohol, among other things, and end up in hospital!

    Keep piperazine party pills legal!!!!

    I live in a small place. Good E is expensive (and they only last 4 or 5 hours, so you need a couple of them for a night) and they are hard to get, as opposed to spending ALOT less for a whole night (8 - 10 hours) on piperazine pills, that are ordered over the internet, without having to go through drug dealers!

    All users: PLEASE HEED ALL WARNINGS ON THE LABELLING OF PIPERAZINE PILLS. Don't ruin it for everyone else!
     
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