So My pet rat and his female ratty friend last night had a first go on Kratom. SWIM received some Maeng Da from a UK vendor. Started with 3g not much of an effect then upped more 2g to a total of 5g. In the end both of My rats just become very tired with not much feeling of euphoria or similar. SWIM today has now recieved kratom from a different UK vendor which from research has been recommended, they also dont label anything maeng da (as i heard this was just marketing) My rats will try this strain tonight GREEN MALAY, hoping for a better experience, will go for 5g straight away. Anyone have any ideas why the first nights attempt resulted in just tiredness and fatigue, it was not a nice tiredness or fatigue just generally how you feel when your tired I know the supplier/source is very important, is SWIM allowed to say the suppliers in hope of getting advice on this area also?