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Combinations - kratom + alcohol

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by sands of time, Oct 8, 2005.

  1. sands of time

    sands of time Newbie

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    Has anyone tried this combo? I gotta say, the alcohol really takes this buzz to the next level. Even 1 drink can really boost the buzz and turn it into a definate high. Even with a tolerance to kratom, a little bit of booze really turns things up for me. Anyone else have any experience w/ this combo?
     
  2. Thcenigma

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    I agree. For some reason red wine works quite well after kratom [​IMG]wheres things like beer/cider just make me bloated with the kratom.not to mutch alcohol thoughwith a high dose ofK you just feel like your going into a coma ! The alcohol seems to bring on the effects quicker say a couple of glasses of wine ore spirits. And it make the kratom feel more like a stronger sedative opiate.not that i've tried heroin ore morphine but you know whatmean.
     
  3. sands of time

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    Yea, I tried drinking a few Guinness beers... Woa, way to much stuff in my stomach hehe. Liquors are good with kratom and wine goes well for me. The combo definately puts things at the more sedative end, but it also increases the body buzz for me. Very warm and pleasant.
     
  4. Alfa

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    So Kratom liquor may be a nice experiment then.
     
  5. sands of time

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    Perhaps... But I still like eating the kratom more and then doing a shot when the buzz is starting. Timing is important I think.
     
  6. Thcenigma

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    Just a quick question is eatingkratom twigs /leaves(comercial grade) powdered up in the blender (about 12 grams)without doing the double boil method eaten with appple suace/honey better than decentnormal qaulityresin. I ask this because swim pays £xxxx for 50 grams of resin for 5 doses wheres the comercial grade is £xxxx for 100 grams.


    I think the best time for this combination isabout 30mts- 1 hour after you have had the kratom and your pupils are pin point then its time to have a moderate drink. as sands of time siad its a realy nice warming buzz..[​IMG]
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  7. armatitumor

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    SWIM has tried rum with kratom, with good results. Although he never was too big a fan of either drug.
     
  8. sands of time

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    So you asking which is better, resin or leaf. Swim likes leaf better because he can grind it and measure it out easily. With resin, you don't always know the strength. Leaf vendors usually tell you the strength of the product.

    When swim gets resin, he generally cut it into peices and swallow like a pill. This method is extremely convenient and descrete. Resin is usually more expensive because it takes more work to get the final product, and if your buying from a small vendor, the price is likely to be higher because there may just be one guy doin all the work.

    Price and potency wise, I would go with leaf all the way. With that 100 grams, you would have at least 10 doses.
     
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  9. Benga

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    last time kratom was tried a single beer = massive wave of nausea in 10 minutes then vomit. Not fun. 3 beers, 2 trips to the bathroom, last one avoided feeling extremily bad.


    it was tea made from resin. dosage iwas 11 grams each.Good effects, apart for the waves of nausea which lasted the two about 24 hours...enough to get one to keep away from the stuff for some time...


    ah there's this thing about taking a drug orally, especially teas...too many bad memories

    edit : this old experience was a actually an form of Kratom dosages, due to poorly labelled extracts and carelessness.
     
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  10. Johan73

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    Thanks for the info. Swim is glad he found this post about the beer and kratom. Swim was going to try it with some Guinesses as sands of time mentioned swiy did. But swim could easily see how Guiness would make swim feel wayyyy too full since the stomach seems to feel not bad just maybe a bit sensitive on enough kratom.

    The red wine sounds interesting. Swim thinks he may try some kratom this evening and then a glass of red wine at about T+30.
     
  11. humdroid

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    Y can have alcohol after kratom, but not kratom after alcohol, as it makes him sick
     
  12. Johan73

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    Swim did end up trying it kratom with a glass of red wine about ten minutes after tossing and washing the kratom. It is quite a nice combination. It does seem to enhance the buzz nicely.

    Swim hasn't tried alcohol before kratom, but could see how it might make him sick. Kratom seems to make the stomach a bit delicate for a while after ingestion swim has noticed?
     
  13. Elphantwalker

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    Swim has been taking kratom with Coors Light regularly for over a year. Kratom tea (7 grams) per the Siebert recipe first, followed by a quick pounding of 12 ounces. And then another. This takes the edge off the come-up and is best done on an empty stomach lest it cause intense vomiting. In 15 minutes the fun begins.

    The problem is that after almost a year and a half of this 2-3 times a week, the subsequent alcohol intake has gone from 6-8 Coors Lights to 10-12 Coors Lights, sometimes more. One might say with a predisposition to alcoholism, kratom may act like other legal compounds and make alcoholism worse over time.

    Quitting both cold turkey has led to 3-4 days of diarrhea, general feeling of malaise, and a head feeling remarkably similar to Xanax withdrawal (but nowhere near as bad - hopefully not as long-lasting either). Some of these may be symptoms of diabetes or hypertension, neither of which have officially been diagnosed.

    A fun ride, yes it is. But the longterm effects of regular use may be worse than the longterm effects of either on its own.
     
  14. OhCasey

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    A combo of Kratom and beer intensifies the feelings of euphoria for swim. The sum is greater than the parts, atleast for this swimmer.
     
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    mixing alcohol with kratom, just makes swim throw up, and usually kills his buzz. however soaking kratom in alcohol & then drinking it down seems okay. once kratom has sat in his stomach for a couple of minutes alcohol is no good.
     
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    Swim has an iron stomach and nothing really makes him throw up anymore but I can see where some who have milder stomachs and get nausea from either alcohol or kratom wouldnt want to mix them together.
     
  17. humdroid

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    alcohol after kratom is good
    alcohol before kratom = voms
     
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    This girl I know used to drink- not much, but more than she would have liked to. Since starting kratom, she has zero desire to drink (unless she goes a few days without). The thought of drinking with kratom, she says, does NOT sound good to her. And she said the once or twice she tried, it made her VERY sleepy. SMMV, of course!
     
  19. bigloc

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    a few beers wouldnt be bad if swiy made kratom tea but not after a toss and wash, swim gets nausea more from toss and wash but better high so its a toss up.
     
  20. DiabolicScheme

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    holy cow, SWIM experiences possibly about x3 the euphoria with just a little bit of alcohol. About 8 oz. is about all it takes to enhance it 3 fold for SWIM.

    DiabolicScheme added 7 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

    SWIM would also like to add he took a heaping spoonful of powder + tagamet 200mg about 45 minutes before drinking some miller light.
     
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