an as-brief-as possible account of kratom binge and after effects and a note to the addict: SWIM acquired 4 ounces of standard, quality kratom from a reputable source. his first dose was 6 grams, finely ground, stirred into applesauce. he boosted with 6 gram doses every couple hours. his experience can be seen here: https://drugs-forum.com/threads/24426 in short, the effects were very similar to opiates. the next day SWIM woke up with a splitting headache and mild nausea which he endured for a few hours. knowing withdrawal pretty well, he figured it was the kratom. SWIM prepared a 7 gram dose, which became his standard dose over the next three days. the withdrawal vanished in fifteen minutes...and so it went. the major side-effect during SWIM's binge was a foul attitude, bordering on sociopathic. not only during withdrawal but also while quite high. he usually wanted people to shut the hell up, ignored everyone, and even considered pushing his good friend down a flight of stairs. I have used perscriptions, (vicodin, oxycontin, etc...), for extended periods and he did pretty much ignore the world, but he never actually wanted to hurt people. SWIM returned to his usual optimistically sarcastic self after the kratom use. the answer is pretty obvious, don't take so much kratom SWIM! yeah. this is more of a warning to anyone who has had problems with substance abuse as I have had. though kratom is legal, easy to get, natural, and not usually noted as addictive; it will probably be a problem for the addict. it proved to be one of those things that the addict can use and use and use. chasing a high as long as he can. there is probably reason for concern when you are overly concerned about where to get more, and never want to share. I will stick to his bi-weekly trip type substances...and some herb. peace.