Hello all! I'm new to the forums here and am very glad to be a new member! Now one day I was reading about many different ethnobotanicals online, as he loves to do. Swim recently came across a plant called Kratom and found it can be used in many different ways. Swim made the choice to buy an ounce of dried Maeng Da Kratom leaf to experiment with. Maeng Da was swims choice because it is said to be the best strain to buy, and lower amounts are needed for much stronger effects. The effects of Kratom are said to be similar to opiates, which I has used a lot of in the past and was very curious on how effective Kratom really was. I found it can be used to get off of an opiate addiction which swim found to be a good sign. Mainly because if Kratom was ineffective it wouldn't be used for such purposes. Anyways... Swim received his oz and did more studying online on how to use his Kratom in the most effective way. Smoking was said to be next to useless, chewing was said to be mildly effective, though tea is said to be most effective. (With further studying swim found Kratom resin can also be bought which would make creating tea and other uses much easier, swim learned his lesson.) Swim searched the web and found a tea recipe just for Maeng Da that called for 2 - 4 grams per 2 1/2 cups of water. This surprised swim because other recipes that were not Maeng Da needed a quarter to half ounce in order to make the same strength. This got swim very excited because he figured he we add more than what the recipe calls for and get the strong effects he was looking for. Swim filled a pot with 2 1/2 cups of tap water and put it at high till it began to boil. Then swim switched the stove to medium and let the water simmer (no bubbles, the water seemed to just move around rapidly) swim then weighed out 7 grams of Maeng Da ground up dried leaf and put it into the water, stirred it up and let it lightly boil for 20mins. The recipe I was following went as told: 1.) Take 2-4 grams of crushed maeng da leaf (powder can also be used) and put into a pan. To this add around 2.5 cups of water. 2.) Boil very gently until over half the water has evaporated (usually around 10-15 minutes). 3.) Strain the remaining liquid into a cup and let cool for a few minutes. 4.) Add sugar or honey to sweeten and drink. 5.) The remaining material in the pan can still be consumed. As you can see I went 3 grams over the called for amount, I did this because he was looking for very strong effect. When swim checked on the tea after 20mins, no where close to "over half the water" was evaporated. So I was confused and let boil even longer. Swim let it boil for nearly 45 - 50mins before it boiled down to 3/4th of a cup. Swim said it was a brownish color, and I did not burn any of the leafs, though I was afraid that kratom can be over boiled and possible weaken the tea. Swim strained the liquid into a cup and did a quick taste test. The taste was very very bitter, just as said online. Swim dumped sugar and agave syrup into the tea, stirred, and let sit while I was putting everything away. Swim recalled how the recipe said "material in pan can still be consumed" so swim tried a spoon food of the plant material (figuring it will increase the effects). I found it extremely hard to get down, and just lingered in his mouth. So swim dumped the left over plant material into his cats food dish and decided to see if they could enjoy it. Swim than drank the tea and found it to be not to bad after adding enough sugar to give a man diabetes... 15 - 30mins in I am feeling the effects of his tea and finds the coming up to be a lot like Vicodin with kind of a heady cannabis high. 1 hour in I am finding very mild effects on his body. He can feel a lot of similarity's to the opiates he has experimented with in the past, though swim figures this is the peak. Swim wished for a much stronger effect and was disappointed because he added more than the recipe called for. Swim then smoked a gram of cannabis and relaxed to the effects for another half hour before he took a nap. I want to know if anyone can see where he messed up, or if he did at all. He wishes for help on how to get the most from his 21 grams of Maeng Da for his next batch of tea. Swim read online that if one were to let his kratom sit in some lime juice for a bit and then boil it, the effects will be greater. Is this true? Also I had the idea, what if one were to boil say 10grams of Maeng Da in a pot with 3 cups of water. Allow it to boil down to about a cup, or half cup. Then pour another 2 cups of water, and continue to let it boil and evaporate down to a half cup or full, then do the same for a 3rd time. Strain the tea, and let cool. I had the idea that this will extract everything from the plant possible, all that is needed is patience. Would this work? Or is it possible to over boil kratom? Thank you everyone.