Hi, just wanted to share an experience and wonder if anyone else has experienced anything similar. I have used kratom off and on for 4 months or so. Up until recently I would brew tea with the leaves - 15 minute slow boil, drain the liquid off then boil the leaves in fresh water 15 more minutes and then drink all the liquid. Recently, I decided to try the toss and wash method. I wanted to try this because I heard that with T&W the effects of kratom would last longer. However, I experienced some unexpected effects. Effects from kratom tea -Onset of effects within 30 - 40 minutes -Appetite suppression -Muscle relaxation -Strong mental stimulation -Euphoria -Sometimes dizziness with higher doses -Duration of peak effects - 90 - 120 minutes with a fast comedown Effects from Toss and Wash -Onset of effects within 60 - 90 minutes -Appetite suppresion -Muscle relaxation -No euphoria, but a sense of "well-being", relaxation -Very pronounced sedation and sleepiness - could have taken a nap -Duration of peak effects 90 - 120 minutes with a gradual comedown I used the same batch of Bali kratom for both methods. With the tea method I used 4 grams most times. With the T&W I used 3 grams once and 4 grams the second time. Basically, many of the effects were similar, but the main difference was that with the tea, there was a strong element of mental stimulation and euphoria. I never felt sleepy or sedated. With T&W, each time I tried it I was very sleepy and sedated to the point of wanting to lay down and take a nap. There was really no euphoria either- just an overall sense of well-being. Both methods produced pleasant effects, but somewhat different ones. I wonder if boiling the leaves changes the chemical makeup/proportions, thus accounting for the different effects. Anyone else experience something similar?