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L-Meth from Vick's Inhaler -- The Experiment

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by Nicaine, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. Nicaine

    Nicaine Titanium Member

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    SWIM's curiosity finally got the better of him, and he picked up a Vick's inhaler with 50mg L-Methamphetamine. His goal wasn't a perfect extraction, but to get enough L-Meth to get an idea of its effects.

    Extraction: SWIM cut the foam inside the inhaler into tiny pieces, and placed it in a cup. Then he added a few teaspoons of 99% isopropyl alcohol, and stirred well while he boiled some water.

    When the water was boiling, he added it to the alcohol/inhaler mixture, and then added about 15 drops of hydrochloric acid. After stirring this for awhile, the foam was partially dissolved and the water very cloudy.

    Next, SWIM added some petroleum ether, and shook well. This removed much of the camphor, menthol, etc. He then siphoned off the top layer of petroleum ether.

    Next, he added the remaining fluid onto an evaporation plate, which he placed in the microwave and evaporated.

    Following this, he added 20-30ml water again to the plate and rehydrated the contents, then sucked it up and put it in a nasal spray bottle for snorting.

    SWIM is now testing the effects. Although the weaker isomer, this stuff *is* methamphetamine after all. SWIM is curious to see if it's as good as propylhexedrine or not... so far, the jury is out. Hopefully he ended up with at least 30mg of the stuff, enough to test the physical effects. More coming soon.

    Edit -- initial impressions is that the stuff is very energising. The peripheral effects are definitely strong, but not necessarily any worse than propylhexedrine (at least so far). What remains TBD is if SWIM actually LIKES this stuff better or not as a poor man's OTC speed. The buzz feels somewhat different, that's for sure: More head cloudiness and more sweating... *zero* entactogenic effects at this point. It feels much like weak speed, while propylhexedrine has a unique buzz that doesn't really compare to speed or anything else.
     
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  2. Sitbcknchill

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    Some used to say they used to use the stuff but needed about 10 times more then usual to catch a half assed buzz that wasn't worth it. Interested to hear about it.
     
  3. podge

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    Interesting stuff.....keep us updated.
     
  4. Nicaine

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    SWIM knows ways to get around dosage/bioavailability issues, such as snorting (dissolved substance) + plugging. He intends to use these exact methods to partially bypass bioavailability issues and get *something* going with just one inhaler.

    So far, his impression is that propylhexedrine is MUCH more euphoric, but that the peripheral effects are also more unpleasant. It's also less energizing than L-Meth... there's something to be said for energy, that's for sure.

    But the euphoria is probably the biggest issue, and most likely the reason why propylhexedrine has a long, long thread w/many followers and L-Meth has almost nothing posted about it.

    Edit -- may have spoke too soon. Almost all the extracted contents of Vick's inhaler used at this point, euphoria has increased to "significant" levels (and it's holding steady, while propylhexedrine comes in waves). Will continue to report... SWIM wishes he had a way to measure blood pressure and such. His heart rate is a bit faster than normal but nothing serious... maybe 90 or so. 2mg clonazepam taken. Note that anyone fooling around with these peripherally-acting vasoconstrictors should ALWAYS have benzos around, maybe even heart medications.
     
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  5. Nicaine

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    SWIM is not satisfied with the effects of one Vick's inhaler to pass judgment -- if he tries this again, he will use two (100mg L-Meth, probably more like 75mg once extracted). Just one is NOT comparable in potency to 250mg propylhexedrine, but two may very well be. Unfortunately, this experiment gets a bit expensive. Still, it's legal and widely available (and there are generics available that may be cheaper). SWIM has always felt he can forgive a hell of a lot when you can just pick it up legally at the corner drugstore.

    Well... I guess SWIM's actions speak for themselves, even if he didn't reach a conclusion: He just visited a website and ordered five Benzedrex inhalers. It seems Benzedrex is quite solidly the winner, comparing price-wise at least. It makes a better poor man's tweak, in SWIM's opinion.
     
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  6. dogzz

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    The vicks inhaler extraction worked back when they contained desoxyn, which if you look up is methamphetamine. Desoxyn was eliminated from the inhalers back in 1991 swim believes( not sure on exact year, but early 90's)
    so where are swiy getting inhalers with meth in them? if that is what swiy are getting. swim thinks swiy is using an old method which no longer works because the needed meth is no longer an ingredient in otc inhalers.
    swim no longer has used the inhaler method after the change in the vicks formulation, so has no recent knowledge of it.
    What is the active ingredient in the inhalers? swim could be wrong but does not think there is any meth in an inhaler to be extracted. at least not in the U.S.
     
  7. Nicaine

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    Yes, there is. It's L-Methamphetamine (or "L-metafetamine" or some stupid nickname like that), which is the far less active stereoisomer of Meth (D-Meth being the CNS active form). Nonetheless, it IS meth... just a form of it that doesn't give much of a high, only a lot of peripheral side effects like racing heartbeat, headaches, acid stomach and of course clearer sinuses ;).

    P.S. propylhexedrine also has some nasty peripheral sides, but at least it's quite active in the CNS (ISO probably comparable to 65% L-Meth and 35% D-Meth) and is capable of producing euphoria, wakefulness, sociability and other nice recreational speed-like effects.

    P.S. check out the chemical formulas in the "chemical data" section on each of these two web pages:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levmetamfetamine
     
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  8. dogzz

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    Thanks for that info...checked out the links...swim laffed at the statement, and this is a quote;
    [ The common brand-name for levmetamfetamine in the U.S. is the Vicks Inhaler. The name was converted to levmetamfetamine, from levo-methamphetamine to lower the risks of abuse of this chemical. ]

    They changed the "name" to prevent abuse?

    then laffed even more when swim realized it seemed to have had that effect on him.

    man! does swim feel like a fool!
     
  9. Desoxman

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    Is there a definitive way to extract and then crystallize the Methamphetamine in Desoxyn 5mg pills? Any answers would be appreciated.
     
  10. fnord

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    swim just ate a vicks cotton ball,feeling quite nice body buzz,slight jaw clenching,more motivated then he was,etc etc etc.hed say it was worth his 3 bucks but not something hell be doing often.just wanted to try it out.
     
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    wow cuz of losers like u i cant get decent cold medicine. i hope u OD
     
  12. Swimster

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    yea, thats pretty dam silly how they try to discise the name to - Levmetamfetamine.

    Swim's advise is to trash it.:eek: . It's also completly insane to try to convert into to the D-isomer. Thus, ther's probbly no use for it.:eek:

    Unless you enjoy nothing but crazy stimulation. Swim heard L is 7X weer than D, in Euphoria, if any.
     
  13. fnord

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    swim felt it was worth the money paid for it,yet it no substitue for d-meth.but deffinitly usefull for a quick pick me up,
     
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    ^^yea, kinda like a suvinear, or a novelty.

    LOL.

    "Hey dude i just went to Local Wa******s and picked up some Methamphetamine!"
     
  15. hoodabudda

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    has anyone done both benzedrex and vicks?which one was better? propylhexidine was pretty good but ISO not worth the price he payed for it.mabey next time he will use his five finger discount coupon;)
     
  16. Swimster

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    Many perople vote on-Benzedrex
     
  17. renegades

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    Swim knows somebody who tried that in 99 and swim did the extraction correctly. However, swim shared his bounty with others telling them it was amphetamine and the people who tried it thought it was bunk. Not one person liked it. Most did not feel any different. If someone feels something it is probably a placebo effect in full swing. Waste of time
     
  18. fnord

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    no its not a waste of time,its just not D-meth l-meth still has potent effects just not as potent as those of L-meth 1 cotton from an inhaler made swim feel quite fine.very sure it was no placibo,seeing as swim was expecting nothing more then a few cups of coffey, and got much more then expected! euphoira body buzz jitters etc.maybe it just effects some people more then others?but on the other hand swim has done extreme amounts of Meth/adderal IV and should have a tollerance...
     
  19. Swimster

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    As far as comparison goes, Ok, L-meth IS as stimulating as the D-isomer of it, THE THING IS, is that the CNS stimulation with L-meth is 7X weaker then with D. As far as gittery, and things goes, they are said to have the same potency, but you see, people aren't looking for just stimulation, but rather CNS stimulation{brings euphoria, and such}. If you are a coffee-head, than L-meth is GREAT. But most people don't really care about this.
     
  20. fnord

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    to each their own,but swims an ex meth head who used heavily and felt quite happy off one inhaler,swim also has ben known to use 90+mg of adderall in one shot iv,while vicks dosent compare to this he got enough to be more than happy with a 5$us purchase,gitteryness energy etc.felt like a week meth buzz,maybe hell try 2-4 cottens next time but one did all he was looking for which was just trying to wake himself up and get a medium buzz