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Injecting - Liquid Methadone

Discussion in 'Methadone' started by Dellzz, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. Dellzz

    Dellzz Newbie

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    I have a friend that gets 100 mg of liquid methadone from a methadone client. I was wondering if I could iv methadone? And how long should SWIM wait before he iv a oc?
     
  2. yaba

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    I did hear that people were doing IV methadone but also that it isn't good.. Then again swim been told that people are IV'ing lots of (stupid) stuff, dihydrocodeine, temazepam (liquid gels) and even diazepam, for swim all of those are a NO NO !

    Better do a lot of research, before... And methadone is active for 24 hours when taken orally.
     
  3. Dellzz

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    SWIM all ready knows he can IV regular methadones. But I have liquid methadone from a methadone client. Its kinda pinkish. SWIM and his friend was thinking it is just waffers and water. Some one had to of IV liquid methadone before. So if any one has done this I would be thankful
     
  4. Zendo

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    Theres no rush, and no real point to i.v done
    the done syrups are fulled with sugars and many other junks that just destroy the veins,

    I use to i.v methadone, mostly using 20ml syringes full..
    Guess it was the kneedle fixation that kept him going back and doing it,
    There was Zero benefits to injecting it vs Oral

    nowdays he would Never i.v done again
    its very pointless to do
     
  5. Dickon

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    The question here has to be what form the methadone is in. Cat used to get 50mg/ml amps and would use a 5ml works to inject 4 or 5 to give a hit of 200-250mg methadone. This did provide something of a rush. [Harm reduction advice: Do not, for God's sake, try this at home unless you know you have the tolerance. 40-50mg methadone orally can kill.] The 50mg/ml amps, as far as I'm aware, are now much harder to get in the UK. Cat has got some scars from using these very caustic things.

    The trouble is most methadone is in oral solution and in the UK it's 1 mg/ml. In Germany, it was, in cat's day, and I think still is 5mg/ml. Cat injected the UK oral stuff, but I think he used a 2ml barrel, which meant 2mg of methadone. Even a 5ml, or a 10ml would be pretty fatuous. I guess Zendo's 20ml is getting into the realms of realism. Cat always found using a 10ml works hard, and never tried a 20ml. I guess it depends on your needle skills and veins (ah, I remember those!).

    The other stuff in the methadone might not make for a safe injection, so injecting oral methadone is probably a really bad idea. All the syrup and guck (this is the technical term I believe!) that seems to be in methadone solutions everywhere is designed to discourage injecting. If you're talking 1mg/ml it simply isn't worth it, and wouldn't be worth it even if there weren't the addictional risks involved from the guck.

    All in all, if you don't have amps, it's a bad idea.

    Dickon
     
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  6. Spoonbender420

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    I have IV'd the pink 10mg/ml liquid methadone that is used in the U.S.A like said a large syringe is usually needed unless one heats the liquid to evap the water and reduce it which I has done it becomes an art forum to much heat will destroy the methadone and to little will just take much more time not a problem unless you have a problem with waiting

    I haven't looked into the in active ingredients and feels it should have been done after reducing the liquid it gets very thick and difficult to draw up into a syringe as we'll as inject there is a mild creeping rush if enough is done and would be worth it swim supposes if the thick shots weren't so surely bad for you
     
  7. Zendo

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    I would like to correct his friends last post, Swim still believes theres no point to the liquid done and injection, However I has come off a 10 year Oxycontin prescription and has been placed on methadone tablets to reduce swims pain killers, Crushed with water and a wheel filter there is indeed a rush with the methadone, I have tried twice in the span of 4 months, (Does not want a needle habbit ever again)
    So for experimental purposes swim tried the pills in injectable form, Just like other opiates its kicked in before I has finished dosing himself,

    Now for the tablets Please remember there is a 48-72 hr half life even with I.V, It would be extremely easy to overdose injecting the tablets more than once every few days, That is for people with low tolerance,

    Also I.V'ing tablets more than once a day is pointless because of the half life, a second taste would feel like a dud shot since the receptors are already flooded

    Peace out and be Safe
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  8. JoshChem

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    I have been in methadone maintenance therapy for abouot 13 years now, and has injected a BOATLOAD of the red syrup which is 10mg/ml or 10mg/cc; however one wishes to look at it. I have never had any problems just drawing it up out of the bottle and blasting off. I use a 12cc/12ml syringe so the most he can inject at once is 120 mgs. They DO SELL 15ml, and even 20 or 50 ml syringes online or at the local farm supply store. You have to check the ordering supply site for the laws regarding the purchase of and/or the possession of these needles. They are perfectly legal to buy and own in MANY, MANY states, but in most of these states if you walk in the pharmacy and ask for a 10 pack of 1cc insulin needles or syringes, they will usually tell you that you must have a prescription for insulin and the needles:mad:. Congratulations to all of these huge drug stores:thumbsdown: for keeping LEGAL LIFE-SAVING needles out of the reach of I.V. drug users so the rates of H.I.V. and Hepatitis will continue to soar and society can be freed of a lot of fairly harmless junkies when they die from lack of a clean needle:cry:. But what do I know?
     
  9. kapitol20

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    It really depends what formula your liquid methadone is. Where I'm from (New Zealand) we get liquid methadone containing methadone hcl and purified water @ 5mg / ml. (Nothing else, no colouring or additives ect) I have IV'd it and have got a rush. I'm not saying it's any safer or smarter to inject and there are always risks associated with IV'ing any substance. I'm just saying it is possible to IV and get a rush but it depends what your liquid methadone contains
     
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    O man that sucks in New Jersey USA my clinics is 10mgs/1ml is so concentrated!!! My bottles are like a inch filled cuz they ask us how we want our THBs like how much green liquid. Which by the way I just found out that every clinic in the world are in the United States at least uses a different color did that identify where their methodology has gone and if they need to find it

    Methabenzocet added 1 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

    To anyone trying to boot methadone it's not gunna work plus there's dye in there and biscuits r filled with pill fill
     
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  11. Built for sin

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    The oral liquids should not be iv'd.Methadone is NOT meant to be injected! You are harming your veins and your body by doing this. That pink liquid is supposed to be consumed orally- the best bioavailability is gotten by drinking it, and it makes no sense at all to inject it, unless you have a needle fixation or something. It is full of sweeteners and fillers that will do the kind of damage you are describing.

    It's not what you want to hear, but at this point you should probably tell the doctor what's been going on and seek medical help before you get a bad infection. And drink your methadone.
     
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  12. RobertT

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    I did it over and over just wishing and thinking and swearing I could feel something but it's really pretty pointless. I would do like 3 shots in a row and get a slight warm feeling which I think was just the rush from catching a vein and putting something in it and feeling a little bit of a temperature change in my vein. I think it's like my mind was so exited I did a shot that I got a few endorphins fired off.but that's it. It shot up a whole bottle three days in a row just swearing to myself I was getting something and I didn't get sick but when I finally drank one the fourth day it was like I did a bag of H I felt so good. So yeah it's might barely keep withdraw away if you do enough of it but drinking it while not exiting as a MMT patient is better. You're better off waiting until you fell yourself going into withdraw and taking the sip. That feels awesome!
     
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    Another old wives tale picked up in the line at the methadone clinic!! Each clinic does NOT have a different color so that it can be identified..not enough colors on the spectrum to make this a fact! I am in New Jersey..the methadone is clear and they add a bit of green liquid (it is just water and food coloring) so that it is not mistaken for water or any other substance. It is also added as a deterrent so that people will not try to inject it.

    Other clinics have methadone that is a pink flavored syrup. There are also some clinics that do dispense clear liquid without adding anything to it.

    Just curious where you heard that every clinic in the USA uses a different color for identification purposes? I can tell you that it is 100% untrue! Boy, the nonsense that passes for fact at the methadone clinic! If people really want to hear "fake news" all they need to do is listen to the shit that gets talked about in the methadone line!!!
     
  14. tatittle

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    LOL lollee. Yeah I always say the difference between intelligent people and those not so much is not really what/how much they know. It has more to do with duller people not realizing what they DON'T really know.
    Luckier folks realize they don't have enough information yet. and act accordingly. This is useful to remember when considering the source of information you encounter.
     
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  15. Kevin james garner

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    Dome it plenty of time but you don't use the stuff dubed Kool aid ask for the clear tell them you can't deal with the dyes it takes alot of shoots but that's one of the things I liked its thick like the Kool aid and tasted horrible but! That's the answer ill give even a miss is no problem
     
  16. TheBigBadWolf

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    The best answer on this thread is hands down #5 from 2009.

    It depends on what ingredients are used in the methadone formulation you get.
    If you have many of them better not mess with putting it into your veins.

    What is the biggest problem in my eyes is when ready portioned methadone is kept without cooling over days and weeks.
    Missing is not an option with all the nonactive stuff in the oral solutions.

    From a harm reduction point of view I am very content with getting my methadone as tablets. Much better to swallow than the artificially sweetened and aromated oral solution.

    And IF I had the idea to shoot up I could simply throw water on them, filter thoroughly and there you go with a perfect (LIE !!) Injectable solution.

    Even microfiltered stuff can still be problematic to inject.
    Plus methadone is very corrosive towards veins, which makes site rotating even more important.

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  17. Kevin james garner

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    The clear I was getting was nt thick like the cherry shit most people got as far as missing it would be a small bump I didn't push the whole thing in ya pay attenion I only did this for nostalga see if ya wanna quit heroin move to Idaho falls and besides it takes 5 loades to feel any thing I had a 250mg a day dose and no way would I ever get that in and that's why I didn't really get much out of iv ing it
     
  18. RobertT

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    In my area there is a works clinic that hands out what I call "methadone barrels." These "barrels" are reusable tubes which are anywhere from 40-100ml with a removable, disposable, screw on syringe at the tip. I don't know how you access your works but if it is a free place, you might want to inquire about these. I'm pretty sure they can be ordered online as well as purchased at a local pharmacy if your state allows syringes to be sold without a prescription. They reduce the number of times needed to inject obviously and produce a more sedating effect.

    I got some but I ended up never using them as I realized in my specific situation, though I am addicted to the opiate and the slight feeling methadone gives, I seem to also have some sort of behavioral addiction or I guess you would call it a compulsive need to recreate the "ritual" of preparing and doing the shot. So in a way it's literally cray but I am willing to experience less of a high in order to recreate it a larger number of times. As I'm sure sticking it in a "barrel" would actually produce a high, I could only do it once or twice.

    I have been so fixated on the ritual that I have even done a water shot a few times just to relieve the anxiety of the compulsion but it was so worthless and taking up viable use of my limited vein real estate, in the end, it had a negative effect. However the first couple times I did find some very short lived likeness of relief though I wouldn't exactly call it relief. I guess for me anyway, there is something to be said for breaking the skin and finding the vein. I would almost liken it to a cutter but not with nearly the same requirement for pain though I bet there us sone emotional component to it. But I major league digress......

    BTW Everybody is different in the way they formally used and how their body metabolized opiates and/or methadone. Having said that just on a personal note, for me, drinking 250mgs would have me in a daily coma. It would be very difficult for me to NOT fool around with that level of dose and inject some here and there to get a rush. Like I said though and of course methadone people know this, 250mg for some people is like taking nothing and they are clear eyed and even still a little dope sick. Some people can't even tolerate 30 and look like they are having and overdose every day on 30mg
     
  19. Kevin james garner

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    It was Manley the nostagia and all I had was a 1Cc dart the stuff wasn't syrup like most and where I live now there is h just Meth and that stuff sucks, I used to drive a 450 mile round trip to pick up two weeks doses ,but it kick it ,made me want to kill something for around two months glad that's over
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  20. TheBigBadWolf

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    I've been using 10 or 20ml syringes with needles of the size I liked best (27G X5/8").
    With the 1% rac-methadone (10mg/ml) that was viable.
    Others I knew used Butterfly needles for feet. or groin injectors.

    This all to me today is an abomination, from my semiprofessional harm reduction point of view, but then it was what it was. *Shrugs*

    Live and learn. :)

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