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Drug info - List Of Other Active Salvia's

Discussion in 'Ethnobotanicals' started by agviapol, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. agviapol

    agviapol Silver Member

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    Other psychoactive salvia species...

    A few weeks ago, SWIM moved into a new house with an old friend of SWIM's dad. So SWIUS was talking about plants of the mind-shifting variety, and in particular, salvia divinorum and he mentions that there's a salvia bush outside.

    So SWIM explained that only the divinorum species is psychoactive, joints were smoked, the subject was forgotten about.

    A few days later, SWIM stumbled across the article below, about the possibility's of other species of salvia having f/x. Basically there hundreds of salvias, many of them found in gardens, some are found to have the same chems in them, but in a much lower quantity.

    So I go and picks some leaves from the salvia outside (think it's 'salvia microphylla', from images found on a search engine). SWIM chews a few for a while, and.... nothing. Then SWIM proceeds to dry um and smoke um and... I wasn't quite sure, as he's always very susceptible to placebo effect. Wasn't too dissappointed as wasn't really expecting anything anyway.

    A week later, for reason unbeknownst to SWIM, SWIM smokes the remainder of dryed leaves and flowers.

    I took about three pipe-fulls of the stuff, holding it in for about 20secs. It actually kind of tasted like salvia d.

    SWIM definately got like a level 1 salvia experience, wanting to sit back, slight dissorientation, euphoria, trance-like state, and percieved slightly altered visual awareness.

    To be honest it was slightly different than standard salvia d. Perhaps different active chemicals or different ratios of salvinorin-A, salvinorin-B and salvinorin-C.

    I tried it again with Hawaiian Baby Woodrose yesterday, and it definately enhanced visuals.

    SWIM might try an home extraction as told in these forums to see if SWIM can't make something more potent of the stuff.

    Anyways, just wondering if other of yous have experimented with other species.

    P.S. sorry bout the long write up :eek:, just thaught SWIM better put the hole story up, to be concise and finicky etc.
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  2. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    Re: Other psychoactive salvia species...

    Here is the article:

    Many quotes in this article are from persons who wish to remain anonymous. Others are from published reports on various newsgroups and forums. I have used no names accordingly.

    It is not the intent of this article to discuss Salvia divinorum. That has been done elsewhere and at great length. Nor is it the purpose of this paper to discuss the fragrant and culinary sages that are known to contain thujone, the active principal in absinthe. Rather this article is meant to deal with the other tested and untested but potentially psychoactive species of Salvia plants. There has been much recent interest over claims of similar compounds to those in S. divinorum being found in other species of Salvias. The earliest record is to be found in Pharmacotheon (Ott, 1996, pg. 380) “Similar diterpenes such as salviarin and splendidin have been isolated from Salvia splendens and other Salvia species (Savona et al 1978; Savona et al 1979), and these Salvia diterpenes represent a novel class of psychoactive compounds.”
    Late in 1997 there began to appear references to Salvia splendens being sublingually active as an anxiolytic on various forums on the internet. When attempting to pursue these leads, contradictions were encountered that did not deter my quest, but gave me certain reservations. Through the good graces of a benefactor, I was able to obtain some S. splendens leaf in late 1997 about the same time I acquired some seeds. I posted at that time on two different forums (The Lycaeum and E.com trip reports forums) but did not save a copy of the posts and they have become unretrievable. The posts dealt with the smoking of Salvia splendens and how the effects were comparable to the last hour of a Ps. mushroom experience. Others who tested Salvia splendens in various forms had varying degrees of success. While some thought that the experience was likenable to that of cannabis “…less than a similar sized bowl of “Cannabis Cup Mix” but worth trying again…” and “… kind of being high (MJ) without the confusedness…” others compared it to Benzodiazepines or anxiolytic substances “…yes, definitely calming…”. Most of the remarks concerning tranquilizing effects were from those who used the leaves sublingually “When I took S. splendens sublingually…the effect was one of emotional numbing without intellectual dullness…” and “…I felt a relaxing effect in my head…the muscles in my arms had relaxed as well…” Other comparisons were to smoking wormwood “…she thought that it was a gentle relaxant and found it quite pleasurable to read whilst under it’s effects…when I mentioned that I noted a similarity with wormwood, she concurred…” Wormwood is Artemesia absinthum and contains thujone.
    The various reports of differing effects are not unusual when trying to describe a new and hitherto unknown experience. People tend to describe the unfamiliar with what is familiar to them, and so each person coming from their own frame of reference can only use those terms they know. I have seen posts comparing S. splendens with GHB, beer and cannabis, valium and psychedelics in their last stages of intoxication. The only thing some of the posts have in common is that there is a definite effect from S. splendens. Some have found combining it with cannabis helpful “…When some cannabis is smoked one hour into the experience the latter’s effect is considerably potentiated, but with the clarity of the splendens evident…” while others have found it to be the opposite “…after an hour and a half of completely no-show, I was persuaded to try a small pipe of good, strong, but known quality bud. Bad Idea…whether the splendens affected the buzz off the bud or the bud in some way activated the splendens trip-I knew even before I put the pipe down it was going to be a bad one…I had a tendency to nod…as if my body was in two parts split by a V running from shoulders to just above the navel and joined by a hinge like a joint…I probably could have had an out of body experience (it certainly looked like it would have gone that way) if I had let the trip take over, but the thing was a bit too freaky for that…” One person has reported on the usage of the combination of Salvia divinorum and S. splendens, stating that “…well over an hour and a half had surely passed when I got an idea that I just had to try. Splendens flowers, naturally dried. Three hits later I’m pleasantly fried. Is it synergistic? It surely must be. Like an elongated divinorum trip, with a lower peak…” and “… I smoked five big hits of splendens flowers…then I immediately smoked one good hit of divinorum. I was rocketed into a slightly altered divinorum peak…the peak wasn’t quite as intense as just divinorum, but lasted about an hour…” and “…after I came down off the divinorum I smoked some splendens and it brought my divinorum trip back almost to the peak…”
    After experimenting with splendens, I became interested in other Salvia species that might contain active diterpenes. A friend sent me a reference to diterpenes in S. coccinea (Savona et al 1982) and I acquired seeds and germinated them. The following is from the Lycaeum Trip Reports forum, February 22, 1998:
    “Pursuant to reports of diterpenes in the aerial parts of the plant Salvia coccinea (Savona et al 1982). ½ gram of leaf material was prepared and used for pyrolytic assay.
    The effects may be compared to those of Salvia splendens. Firstly was noted a disinclination to move from the chair in which one was sitting. Colors and textures became more distinct, accompanied by a mental clarity. Music became deeper and more full, with nuances that had never been previously noticed in familiar works. The thought process seemed to have been given wings. Physical effects were basically non-existent except for the disinclination to move which may also be described as feeling made of stone, hence having no inclination to move in the first place.
    Where previously S. splendens had been compared to the last hour of a cubensis experience, this reminds the subject more of mescaline at a similar stage. Potentiation with cannabis at plus one hour was synergistic. Unlike S. divinorum, one can carry out “normal” activities under it’s influence, although activities requiring concentration-such as typing-are somewhat hindered.
    The duration seems to be similar to S. splendens , but somewhat more stimulatory in nature after the initial onset…”
    After the success with S. coccinea, I began to investigate other members of the Salvia family and I began aquiring and testing other species. I tested S. Argentia, S. plebia, and S. superba, all by smoking. All of the Salvias tested had similar effects. A short time later I received in the mail a copy of Chapter 12 of “Phytochemistry of Medicinal Plants” edited by John T.Arnason et al, the chapter being entitled “Neo-Clerodane Diterpenoids from American Salvia Species” by Lydia Rodriguez-Hahn, Baldomero Esquivel and Jorge Cardenas which listed the following American Salvia species:

    S. melissodora
    S. breviflora
    S. keerlii
    S. semiatrata
    S. lasiantha
    S. madrensis
    S. splendens
    S. fulgens
    S. microphylla
    S. lineata
    S. rubescens
    S. greggii
    S. coccinea
    S. plebia
    S. gesneraeflora
    S. puberula
    S. tilleafolia
    S. rhyacophyla
    S. lanquidula
    S. urolepsis
    S. reptans
    S. farinacea
    S. lavenduloides
    S. cardiophylla
    S. thymoides
    S. purpurea.
    Neo-clerodane diterpenoids are the class of chemicals of which Salvinorin A is one example. Others in this class are Splendidin and Salviarin from S. splendens, Salvimadrensis and Salvimadrensinone from S. madrensis and Salviacoccin from S. coccinea.
    Other reports came in from other forums and newsgroups regarding the effects of S. greggii, S. lyrata, S. farinacea and S. guaranitica, all of them positive.
    Many of the Salvias on this list have not yet been tested, to my knowledge, and while so far no one of those tested has come close to the effects of S. divinorum, all tested have been found to be worthy of further study.
    One more note: A compound known as forskholin extract, isolated from Coleus barbatus (=Coleus forskholii) also in the class of neo-clerodane diterpenoids and having a chemical structure similar to that of Salvinorin A was also tested in the above series of experiments and was found to be similar to smoking the flowers of S. splendens which are considered to be somewhat stronger than the leaves but otherwise alike in effects. The feeling of "clarity" was more noticable, also.
    There is a report of use of a 5X extract of S. splendens leaf which states "Too much of a good thing can definitely put you to sleep. I only lasted about an hour, but the effects were distinctly stronger, more like cannabis, and like it, too much will put you right to sleep. It was more than before, but still nothing like the world shattering of S.d….I had a similar experience with the flowers a week ago. They seemed stronger than the leaf and put me to sleep"
    There are approximately 900 different species of Salvia. Only a very few of them have been tested and of those the great majority has been found active. The above list only represents a small fraction of the Salvia family; those from the Americas which have been chemically analyzed . For the most part these remain to be bio-assayed. There may be another Salvia divinorum out there still. The success so far can only be looked at as encouraging.
    I have seen reports on various newsgroups and forums mentioning skullcap and other members of the mint family, such as the basils, as having psychoactive activity. This is another promising direction for experimentation, one which I hope to explore more fully as soon as possible.
    In closing, let me state that it appears the mint family-which has more medicinal plants in it than any other plant family-has great potential for new and unusual entheogens yet to be discovered and the availability is such that anyone can be a pioneer in this field. Let me also state that I do not advise anyone to attempt to duplicate or expand upon these experiments unless they are a qualified researcher. To blindly go into the garden or anywhere for that matter and just break off and chew or smoke leaves from plants without first knowing the chemistry of that plant adequately enough is asking for a trip to the hospital or worse.
  3. fnord

    fnord Newbie

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    Thanks to daylight and all the others who helped put this list together!
    @baj i didint think this should go in the salvia forum because it says "salvia divinorum" and not just salvia. ill let you decide.

  4. 0utrider

    0utrider Palladium Member

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    AW: List Of Other Active Salvia's

    great post. SWIm would like to know more about this

  5. fnord

    fnord Newbie

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    It wasent me who put this this together,many people helped assemble this on another forum,sorry i cant help :(
  6. mad 'ed

    mad 'ed Newbie

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    i am at the momment growing blue hills and splendens from seed not big enough to sample yet but im hoping to cross pollinate them and see what i get as divinorumis believed to be a hybrid and theese 2 seem most active ill keep y'all posted
  7. DayLight

    DayLight Newbie

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    sweet deal fnord, you put our list up here! thanks bro!
    i found this while digging around for more active sage research papers.

    outsiderx, what did you want to know about salvia nemorosa?

    i will try and answer everyones questions about this(active salvia spp.) if there are any.

    DayLight added 15 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

    and mad'ed, i can assure you SD is not a nemorosa/splendens cross. no way. the morphology is not the same whatsoever(aside from basic traits in the salvia family) and they are not genetically close enough. saliva mellisodora and salvia madrensis are better bets for research into the parents of divinorum. plus nemorosa and splendens have been wildly hybridized for growth characteristics and flowers, due to their being popular bedding plants, so it would be impossible to re-create the original cross because the original strains of nemmy and splendens are likely gone.

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  8. mad 'ed

    mad 'ed Newbie

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    disappointing im still interested in other active salvias having only done divinorum 2 or 3 times back in the uk absolutly hatin this place everythings illegal here even shit no ones heard of recently bought an establised flowering splendens and have noted effects with marijuana havnt tried it alone yeat but there is more than just mary at the party
  9. Bajeda

    Bajeda Super Moderator Platinum Member & Advisor Supporter

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    Re: Other psychoactive salvia species...

    To further illustrate the point, and provide a big bump to this old yet worthwhile thread, here are some more examples of research on salvia species with possible psychoactive properties in humans.

    S. Mora, R. Millán, H. Lungenstras, G. Díaz-Véliz, J.A. Morán, M. Herrera-Ruiz and J. Tortoriello. (2006).The hydroalcoholic extract of Salvia elegans induces anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects in rat. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 106(1): 76-81.

    Behavioral effects of a hydroalcoholic (60% ethanol) extract from the leaves of Salvia elegans Vahl (Lamiaceae) were studied in male Sprague–Dawley rats. The extract was administered intraperitoneally and its effects on spontaneous motor activity (total motility, locomotion, rearing and grooming behavior) were monitored. Putative anxiolytic and antidepressant properties of Salvia elegans were studied in the elevated plus-maze test (EPM) and in the forced swimming test (FST), respectively. Deleterious effects of Salvia elegans on learning and memory were also studied by using active and passive avoidance paradigms. The results revealed that all doses (3.12, 12.5, 25 and 50 mg/kg) of the extract caused a significant decrease in total motility, locomotion, rearing and grooming behavior. Only the dose of 12.5 mg/kg increased the exploration of the EPM open arms in a similar way to that of diazepam (1 mg/kg). In the FST, all doses of the extract induced a reduction of immobility, in a similar way to that of fluoxetine (10 mg/kg) and imipramine (12.5 mg/kg), along with a significant increase in the time spent in swimming behavior. Acquisition of active avoidance responses was disrupted by pre-treatment with the extract, but retention of a passive avoidance response was not significantly modified. These results suggest that some of the components of the hydroalcoholic extract of Salvia elegans have psychotropic properties, which deserve further investigation.

    M. Rabbani, S.E. Sajjadi, A. Jafarian and G. Vaseghi. (2005). Anxiolytic effects of Salvia reuterana Boiss. on the elevated plus-maze model of anxiety in mice. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 101(1-3): 100-103.

    Abstract: The anxiolytic and sedative effects of hydroalcoholic extract (HE) of Salvia reuterana Boiss. was evaluated in mice. The HE of Salvia reuterana (100 mg/kg), increased the percentage of time-spent and the percentage of arm entries in the open arms of the elevated plus-maze. Spontaneous locomotor activity count measured in 15 min of the test was significantly decreased in animals pretreated with diazepam and 100 mg/kg of Salvia reuterana extract. Results of the present study provide support for the traditional usage of Salvia reuterana as a sedative and anxiolytic medicinal plant.

    M. H. Al-Yousuf, A. K. Bashir, B. H. Ali , M. O. M. Tanira and G. Blunden. (2002). Some effects of Salvia aegyptiaca L. on the central nervous system in mice. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 81(1): 121-127.

    Salvia aegyptiaca L. is used for treating various unrelated conditions that include nervous disorders, dizziness, trembling, diarrhoea and piles. This work examines some effects of the crude acetone and methanol extracts of the plant given at single oral doses of 0.25, 0.5, 1 or 2 g/kg, on the central nervous system (CNS) in mice. The extracts were also tested for anti-inflammatory and antipyretic actions. Several models of nociception have been used to examine the analgesic effect of the extract. In treated mice, the extracts caused dose-related inhibition of acetic acid-induced abdominal constriction, and significantly reduced formalin-induced pain. Treatment with the extracts at doses of 0.5 and 1 g/kg significantly increased the reaction time in the hot-plate test. In treated mice both extracts caused significant and dose-related impairment of the sensorimotor control and motor activity. Treatment with both extracts did not significantly affect the rectal temperature of normothermic mice. The methanol extract (0.5 and 1.0 g/kg) did not affect the rectal temperature of hyperthermic mice, but the acetone extract was effective in significantly reducing the rectal temperature of hyperthermic mice, 0.5 and 1 h after administration of the extract at doses of 0.25–2 g/kg. It is concluded that the crude methanol and acetone extracts of S. aegyptiaca have CNS depressant properties, manifested as antinociception and sedation. Both extracts have some anti-inflammatory and antipyretic actions. On the whole, the acetone extract appeared to be slightly more effective than the methanol extract in this regard.
  10. mrpeppercorn

    mrpeppercorn Silver Member

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    Other active sages update!

    This is a continuation from the active sages

    SALVIA MICROPHYLLA-Love the smell and taste of this one I have been working with this herb for some time now it is active definetly not placebo effects are altered state of mind and shit looks weird/vibrant. VERY noticeable effects.

    Salvia microphylla- contains the neo-clerodane dilactone one of the constituents thought to be responsible for its theraputecic effects used in mexican medicine---..A new phenolic ester 2-( p-hydroxyphenyl)ethyl eicosaheptanoic acid ester (1) and a known one hexacosylferulate (2) were isolated from the acetone extract of Salvia microphylla. In addition, two sesquiterpenes beta-eudesmol (3) and 8alpha-hydroxy-beta-eudesmol (4), a diterpene carnosic acid 12-methyl ether (12-methoxycarnosic acid) (5), three triterpenes erithrodiol 3-acetate, oleanolic acid, lupeol and beta-sitosterol were obtained as known compounds from this plant extract. The structures of the isolated compounds were elucidated by spectroscopic methods, including one- and two- dimensional 1H- and 13C-NMR and MS spectroscopies
    salvia greggi- pimarane diterpenoids have been isolated one is a neo clerodane diterpenoid, 10B-hydroxy-8-epi-salviarin(46)

    SALVIA LEUCANTHA THE SALVIA THAT CAUSES LUCID DREAMING-The essential oil from the aerial parts of Salvia leucantha Cav. (Lamiaceae) was analyzed by GC, GC/MS and NMR spectroscopy. The oil was found rich in sesquiterpene hydrocarbons; ß-caryophyllene (13.9%), α-guaiene (12.6%), cis-muurola-3,5-diene (10.8%), germacrene D (13.8%) and bicyclogermacrene (8.7%). Bornyl acetate constituted 23.9% of the oil. This is the first detailed report on the essential oil composition based on capillary GC and GC/MS analyses.
    Key Word Index
    Salvia leucantha , Lamiaceae, essential oil composition, bornyl acetate.
    Salvia leucantha Cav. (Lamiaceae) has a wide distribution and is a common garden plant. Seven species of Salvia are reported to grow in the central Himalayan region of India (1) and have not been thoroughly investigated for their steam volatile components. A literature review could reveal a few reports on Salvia leucantha. The first two reports on the steam volatile components show die presence of 1,8-cineole (7.6-0.0%), p-cymene (4.0-7.2%), thujone (5.4-7.0%), linalool (9.0-10.0%), geranyl acetate (4.8-6.0%), ritrai (19.0-25.0%), citronellal (2.0%), citronellol (9.6-12.0%), geraniol (12.0-13.0%), cedrene (6.2%) and aromadendrene (6.0%) in the oil (2,3). The other three reports show the isolation and identification of salvigenane and isosalvipuberulan diterpenoids from an acetone extract (4) and triterpenes (5,6) from a chloroform extract of its aerial parts. Our preliminary examination of die essential od of Salvia leucantha indicated its composition to be significandy different from that reported earlier (2,3). We have carried out a detaded analysis of the oil, which forms the basis of the present communication.A new diterpenoid with a rearranged neoclerodane skeleton, spiroleucantholide (compound S1), along with four known diterpenoids—salvifaricin (compound S2), isosalvipuberulin (compound S3), salvileucantholide (compound S4), and salviandulin E (compound S5)—was isolated from the aerial parts of Salvia leucantha CAV.. The structures were established by spectroscopic methods, including the X-ray analysis of spiroleucantholide (S1

    SALVIA FARANICEA- somewhat active effects from a extract made with isopropyl alcohol. When smoke the effects are almost identical to that of thujone
    From the aerial part of Salvia farinacea two new neo-clerodane diterpenoids, salvifarin and salvifaricin, have been isolated. The structures of these diterpenoids have been established mainly by spectroscopic means and by comparison with closely related compounds.
    The clerodane diterpenoid salvinorin A ( 1 ), the main active component of the psychotropic herb Salvia divinorum , has been reported to be a potent agonist at the Κ -opioid receptor. Computer modeling suggested that splendidin ( 2 ) from S. splendens , as well as related compounds, might possess similar activities. In the present study, this hypothesis was tested by determination of the binding properties of a series of structural congeners, compounds 2 – 8 , at the Μ -, Δ -, and Κ -opioid receptors. However, none of these compounds showed significant binding to any of the opioid-receptor subtypes, thus disproving the above hypothesis. The novel compounds 7 and 8 were obtained semi-synthetically by selective modification of salvifarin ( 5 ), isolated from Salvia farinacea , upon epoxide-ring opening with AcOH in the presence of indium(III) triflate. Also, the X-ray crystal structure of salvifaricin ( 6 ; Fig. ), obtained from S. farinacea , was determined for the first time and used, in combination with in-depth NMR experiments, to elucidate the absolute configurations of the new products. Our experiments demonstrate that the relatively well-accessible diterpenoid 6 could be used as starting material for future studies into the structure–activity relationship at the Κ -opioid receptor.

    SALVIA NEMOROSA- everyone pretty knows this one is active. Combining it with kratom it is powerfully overwhelming​

    Anti-nociceptive Effects of the Aerial Parts of Salvia nemorosaL. Extracts in Mice
    H. Hosseinzadeh PhD, S. Amel PharmD
    Faculty of Pharmacy, Mashhad University of Medical Sciences, Mashhad, Iran
    Background-Several genera of Labiatae have anti-nociceptive properties with an efficacy similar to classical analgesic drugs.
    Objective-In this study, the anti-nociceptive activity of Saliva nemorosa extract was evaluated.
    Methods-Anti-nociceptive properties of the aerial parts of S. nemorosa were studied using hot plate and writhing tests on the aqueous decoction and ethanolic maceration extracts of the aerial parts of this plant.
    Results-In contrast to the ethanolic extract, intraperitoneal injection of aqueous extract showed anti-nociceptive activity in the hot-plate test which was inhibited by naloxone. In the writhing test, however, considerable anti-nociceptive activity was observed in case of both aqueous as well as ethanolic extracts. Here again, naloxone had an inhibitory effect on the anti-nociceptive properties of only the aqueous extract.
    Conclusion-This study shows that S. nemorosa had both central and peripheral anti-nociceptive activities that may be mediated by opioid receptors.
    Keywords ·Salvia nemorosa · anti-nociceptive activity · opioid activity · medicinal plants
    The genus Salvia from the Labiatae family, has 58 different species such as S. aegyptica, S. aethiopis, S. officinalis and S. nemorosa. 1 Labiatae, are generally known for their multiple pharmacological effects including their analgesic, anti-inflammatory2, antioxidant3, hepatoprotective4, hypoglycemic 5-7, antimicrobial 8, and CNS-depressant activities. 9 Through chemical investigations nemorone, a triterpene compound,10 and glycosides such as salvionosides A-C11 have been isolated from this plant.
    ?The following study was undertaken to study the anti-nociceptive activities of S. nemorosa (called Maryam-e Goli Kuhi in Persian) in mice.2, 9,12
    Materials and Methods
    Male Albino mice weighing 25-30 gr were selected from a random-bred colony and maintained on a special diet (Khorasan Javane Co. Mashhad, I.R. Iran) in the animal house of Mashhad University of Medical Sciences. The animals were housed in colony rooms 12/12 hours light/dark cycle at a temperature of 21±2° C with free access to food and water.
    Plant material:
    Salvia nemorosa was collected from Shandiz (an area with 30 Km distance from Mashhad, northern Iran). The plants were identified in the herbarium of Ferdowsi University. Voucher samples were preserved for reference in the herbarium of the Department of Pharmacognosy, School of Pharmacy, Mashhad (153-1914-4). After being dried in the shadow, the plants were subsequently grounded.
    Preparation of extracts:
    The extract of the plant was obtained using 2 methods, aqueous decoction, and maceration with ethanol. In the decoction method, one liter of hot water was added to 100 grams of the grinded plant, boiled for 15 minutes and finally filtered through cloth. This extract was then concentrated to the desired volume under reduced pressure.
    In the maceration method, 200 grams of the grounded plant was added to 500-ml ethanol (85%, v/v) and left as such for three days. This macerated mixture was subsequently filtered and concentrated under reduced pressure at 50° C. The ethanolic extract was solubilized by Tween-80.
    Anti-nociceptive study:
    Hot-plate test:
    Hot-plate test was assessed on mice, in which the temperature of the metal surface was maintained at 55±0.2° C for 40 seconds (cut-off time). Latency to a discomfort reaction (licking paws or jumping) was determined before and after drug administration.
    Writhing test:
    One hour after administration of extracts, the mice were given an intraperitoneal injection of 0.6% v/v acetic acid solution (volume of injection 0.1ml/10gr). Morphine was injected intraperitoneally 45 minutes before the injection of acetic acid. Naloxone was administered subcutaneously 15 minutes before the extracts and morphine injection. The number of writhes produced in these animals was counted for 30 minutes.
    Maximum tolerated dose:
    Different doses of the extracts were injected to separated groups of six mice. After 48 hours, the highest dose that failed to induce mortality was considered as the maximum tolerated dose.
    The following agents were used: morphine sulfate (Daru Pakhsh, I.R. Iran), naloxone hydrochloride (ToliDaru, I.R. Iran).
    Statistical analysis:
    The data were expressed as mean values ± SEM and tested with ANOVA followed by the multiple comparison test of Tukey-Kramer.
    The maximum tolerated doses of the aqueous and ethanolic extracts were 4 and 8 g/kg, respectively. Also it was seen that doses of 10 and 8 mg/kg of the respectively aqueous and ethanolic extracts killed all animals.
    Morphine (2.5-10 mg/kg, IP) showed signifi-cant anti-nociceptive activity in the hot-plate test. In this test, the intraperitoneal injection of the aqueous extract exhibits anti-nociceptive activity. Naloxone (1 mg/kg, SC) completely inhibited this activity (Fig. 1). The ethanolic extract did not show any significant activity in the hot-plate test.
    Both extract forms of Salvia nemorosa showed marked anti-nociceptive activities in the writhing test. There were no significant difference between the effect of the aqueous (0.5 mg/kg) and the ethanolic extract (1 and 2 mg/kg) compared with morphine (10 mg/kg) in reducing writhes numbers. Naloxone (1 mg/kg, SC) pretreatment only reduced the anti-nociceptive activities of the aqueous extract and morphine (Fig. 2).
    Present results indicate that the aqueous and ethanolic extracts of the aerial parts of S. nemorosa have anti-nociceptive activities with different profiles.
    The maximum tolerated dose of the aqueous extract was found to be much higher than the ethanolic extract. This indicates that the aqueous extract is probably less toxic and better tolerated than the other extract.
    Opioid agents exert their analgesic effects via supraspinal (µ1, ?3, d1, d2) and spinal (µ2, ?1, d2) receptors.13 Hot-plate test is a specific central anti-nociceptive test.14 The aqueous extract showed anti-nociceptive activity in the hot-plate test, and this effect was inhibited by naloxone. Therefore, it is possible that the extract had exerted its effect through central opioid receptors and promoted the release of endogenous opiopeptides.
    Both extracts showed significant anti-nociceptive activities in the writhing test. They reduced the number of writhes more than 90%. In this test, the extracts showed considerable anti-nociceptive activity similar to morphine. Other substances such as opioid agonists, opioid partial agonists and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory agents show their anti-nociceptive activity in the writhing test.15 Since the anti-nociceptive activity of the ethanolic extract was not inhibited by naloxone, it means that they had no opioid effects and it is likely that the effect of the extracts is similar to non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.
    It is concluded that the aqueous and ethanolic extracts of the aerial parts of S. nemorosa have significant anti-nociceptive effects. The aqueous extract has central and peripheral anti-nociceptive activity, which is partially mediated by opioid receptors. The ethanolic extract, however, possibly has only peripheral anti-nociceptive effects.
    The authors are thankful to Dr. M. Ramezani, Assistant Professor, Department of Pharmaco-gnosy, School of Pharmacy, Mashhad, for his guidance.
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    RUSSIAN SAGE (perovskia atriplifolica)- one of the most powerfull herbs You has never heard of.
    some know this is a pleasant herb. It is gathering more and more attention each year. It contains multiple actives thujone, tanshinones, quinones and multiple chemicals that work on the benzodiazipine receptors. You will find plenty of information across the web using correct search terms. the infamous ''triple X blend' contains a powerful extract from this sage

    Thujone, Miltirone, and oxy-miltirone.
    Some other compounds are but not limited to tanshinones, camphor, limonene, a-globulol, trans-caryophyllene, a-humulene, 1,8-cineole, camphene, a-pinene, b-caryophyllene, y-cadinene, a-terpinyl acetate, and over 14 unidentified compunds.
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  11. Ravebiscuits

    Ravebiscuits Newbie

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    I found by accident last night that salvia microphylla is surprisingly interesting when smoked before a spliff. 3 or 4 small bowls of leaves, which on it's own is hardly noticeable, before a spliff and it seems to double the potency and give the high an interesting feel. If anyone knows if there is some interesting interactions going on there please let me know.
  12. filhodd

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    i know this thread is old, but i think this trip report i found is good info!

    Salvia superba
    by unknown author

    This plant has been "calling out" to me for a while now. So... .2 gram was prepared for pyrolytic assay and consumed at 10:16 p.m
    10:19 fluidity becomes apparent. Unlike S.d. Like S.s. and S.c. space seems no longer empty.
    10:24 rug starts to melt. High and clear
    10:27 music sounds far away
    10:29 empty space full of energy. Two dimensional pattern becomes three dimensional
    10:40 colors seem "softer" and "richer". Time slows down.
    10:48 synaethesia: music is felt. Drift away on thoughts. Fall into music.
    10:56 cat looks totally psychedelic
    11:08 nicer and nicer
    11:15 cannabis: not felt. Salvia becomes stronger.
    11:18 plant tells me its name is "sue" compassion/euphoria. Want to jump for joy. Solarized. Beam of light radiates from heart.
    No further notes taken.
  13. PowerfulMedicine

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    ^Filhodd, that sounds pretty intense and even psychedelic. I've smoked this salvia hybrid before and I didn't get nearly as intense effects as you did. Then again, I think I might have smoked it while I was on HBWR, so I can't say much for sure.

    For some reason though, I find this a little hard to believe. The parent species of this hybrid (Salvia × sylvestris and Salvia amplexicaulis and maybe Salvia nemorosa) aren't really known to be psychedelic as far as I know.

    I'm gonna have to try this salvia again. I think I might still have some, but it's a little old, so the it may not be that potent.
  14. filhodd

    filhodd Newbie

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    it wasn't me who tried, i found it on a forum (don't remember wich, but i think i can find it again)

    filhodd added 1 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

    how do i edit my previous post? i wanted to add that maybe the species was misidentified by the guy? do you know any other trip reports about this? i would like to read them and maybe eventually make one myself
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  15. PowerfulMedicine

    PowerfulMedicine Silver Member

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    I don't know of any other reports about this plant. If there are any out there you could search something like "Salvia superba psychoactive" or "Salvia superba high", etc, on the forum search engine. If there are none on DF, then google would be the next place to try.

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  16. Will Gleason

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    I have an experience regarding S. melissodora. I posted it as a thread, but this also seems to be a place where it could be useful.

    So, I found some Salvia melissodora in my yard, and I did some reading. I found that S. melissodora, while probably not containing Salvin A, does contain several other diterpenoid s, which I thought could possibly be psychoactive. So, I decided to try some leaves out.

    My first try entailed smoking around half a gram out of a bubbler. I smoked it the same way I smoke weed, but I was able to take some substantially larger hits, and never had any compulsion to cough. The smoke was incredibly smooth, and actually rather tasty. It also had a nice, sagey smell. I smoked the leaves, which actually filled around 2 bowls, and almost instantly felt a sort of rush. It was a very speedy high, similar to what a tramadol come up, or an Adderall high. It didn't produce any fully fledged hallucinations, but there was a small amount of paranoia (it felt like I was being watched), and the world did take on a sort of other worldly quality. Beyond that, I did feel a slight increase of gravity, and ended up slumped in a chair, similar to a DXM or opiate trip. It ended after about 40 minutes, everything kind of just gradually returned to normal. Overall, it was actually quite pleasant.

    My second trip was less so. About 5ish hours later, I took substantially more leaves, around 8-9 grams, and chewed them, keeping the mush under my tongue and around my gums, like I'd read to do, and kept them there, occasionally moving them around a bit, for about 40 minutes. I then took a hot bath, and things definitely felt... off. When I got out of the bath, I became immediately aware of two facts: 1) My reflection was not me, and 2) Whatever was in the mirror was out to get me. I ended up calling my friend just so he could talk me through brushing my teeth and getting my contacts out. After that, it was just an hour of pure dread and terror as I wandered around my house trying to avoid my reflection and the entity I'd dubbed "The Man In The Mirror". Beyond that, I saw a shadowy figure lurking in the corner of the music room, heard non-existant rave music pumping in my garage, and wrote a scroll on a notepad listing facts about The Man In The Mirror, along with an artistic depiction of what I percieved to be his true form, which I saw engraved into the back of my eyelids whenever I closed my eyes.

    Just in case you're curious, here's what the list stated (in hurriedly scribbled, all caps):

    (this part is scratched out and written in terrible cursive)
    Alacahul (or it might be Uluhacwl, Elucahul?)
    DON'T SAY HIS NAME (I underlined this manically)

    It also included a fairly horrific drawing, which appears to be a vaguely humanoid face, with several horns, a row of fangs, black spirals for eyes, and a truly sickening grin.

    The only thing I clearly remember about the Man is that he very much wanted me to take more drugs, which eventually I did. I took around 25 mg of hydrocodone, a melatonin, and about 50 mg of dph, which calmed me down considerably, and helped me come down from a very panicked state. All in all, the experience was horrifying, and was one of the few times I felt legitimately close to a psychotic break. Would not recommend EVER CHEWING SALVIA MELISSODORA, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ALONE, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS AT NIGHT.