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Combinations - lsd and meth combo?

Discussion in 'Drug combinations' started by brettoner, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. brettoner

    brettoner

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    swim was planing on doing a combo of acid and meth(smoking route) has anyone have an expirence to share befor i go about this swim is well expirenced with lsd and is new to smokeing meth but has done it alot back in the day oraly but 90% of that was with mdma aswell.
     
  2. SlightlyBitter

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    SWIM has considered this combination many times, but with pharmaceutical amphetamine. Anyways, he always felt that LSD caused thoughts to race so fast the brain just can't interpret the information and perhaps a strong stimulant would help.

    However, amphetamines give swim nasty anxiety. LSD plus anxiety is just a bad situation for anyone idc how experienced one is. Also LSD has stimulant like properties by itself adding a stimulant could be dangerous for the heart. LSD already has a body load and amps also give a body load. To SWIM these negatives were far outweighed by the possible pros. He always just felt taking an upper on a psychedelic was a great way to induce a bad experience. However, MDMA with lsd provided an unreal experience, but MDMA and meth are very different drugs. Also when SWIM was a heroin user and ingested lsd thoughts of using highly addictive drugs always brought on negative thoughts, although these experiences helped swim overcome his addiction. If SWIY were to try this he would suggest taking a normal dose of lsd and taking a small ORAL dose of meth. Smoking it might be to intense and send SWIY in the wrong direction. Please follow up with an experience report if SWIY goes ahead and tries this.
     
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  3. Potter

    Potter Platinum Member & Advisor

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    This is probably a sure fire way to a freakout. The LSD makes a person far more prone to worry over the cardiac stimulation.

    Besides that, why? Why would someone want to mix these?
     
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  4. mmmbreakfast

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    Afoaf totally agrees. He made the mistake of doing cocaine on top of lsd and had the worst trip of his life. He thought he was going to die of a heart attack for hours.
     
  5. Revolvingdoo

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    Physically I would say its relatively safe, MDMA has a similar level of stimulation to meth, and people candy flip all the time.
    Mentally not a good idea though, meth has a tendancy to induce psychosis, not something you need happening on LSD.
    I anticipate it being like a DOx compound, which alot of people find unpleasent, the introspection off the LSD and the focus of meth might seriously reduce the warmth of the experience, simply causing a very nasty "introspective nightmare" to coin a phrase.
     
  6. rawbeer

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    This was a common combo in the 1960's, and supposedly Leary even told Owsley to cut his LSD with speed "for clarity". The Hell's Angels supposedly enjoyed the speed/LSD combo quite a bit. Hunter Thompson mentions this combo in a few of his works.

    But I'm inclined to agree with the naysayers, speed on LSD seems unnecessary and potentially pretty scary. The drug use bar was set pretty high in the 1960s when you consider that one hit back then (on average) was probably about equal to a modern-day 10-strip (again, we're talking averages here). Most people simply "can't hang" with 1960s style drug use, and shouldn't try, part of the reason hits are dosed so much lower these days is that those strong, 500 mic hits are just too much for most folks.

    As is, I would wager, doing a super-powerful stimulant while already on a powerful psychedelic stimulant. I went to college with a guy who swore by this combo, so to each his own, and as Revolvingdoo said physiologically it's probably not very dangerous (LSD is, physically, a very safe drug) but from a harm reduction standpoint its pretty hard to endorse this.

    BTW the phrase "introspective nightmare" is used in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
     
  7. phenythylamine

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    while I cant see any physical contraindications, this is certainly a panic attack in the making.

    mixing LSD with stimulants...come on guys, LSD is not a party drug, its not taken to "feel good" or "get high" and anyone who does is asking for a bad trip.
     
  8. Revolvingdoo

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    Yup i know :D just seemed the most appropriate way to describe the DOx experience.
    And yeah, phens baisically hit the nail on the head.
    Do not like pride and an issue of "I'm a hard head", be SWIY's downfall here!
     
  9. Trippery

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    Sorry to bump an old thread... but I have some relevant information anyone UTFSEing might appreciate.

    Some time ago, while not very experienced, the pet monkey took the combination of 2 hits of acid and 25 mg dexedrine (pharmaceutical d-amphetamine).

    The experience was quite unpleasant, the two drugs did not synergize at all. The pet monkey was overly aware of the physical side effects of the amph, and was not able to let his mind relax into the trip. He had considerable anxiety about his high heart rate, but was able to rationalize it away. He felt that the drugs had polar opposite psychological effects--amph makes one extremely focused and narrow-minded (consciousness-shrinking), while LSD makes one's natural thought processes very diverse, and frees the user from habit and pattern (consciousness-expanding)

    He spent most of the trip standing with his eyes closed in the center of the room, or pacing back and forth--surprisingly, this is his only trip that he does not remember vividly. The acid had the usual perception-bending effects, but he did not notice any true hallucinations (which usually manifest as organic figures or fractals in the walls or carpet for him).

    Also not that the pet monkey is not experienced enough to tell the difference between pure LSD and similar RCs.
     
  10. Windsblow

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    I will have to agree with the others.... As AFOAF had done this years ago and and is still suffering from it 20 years later. AFOAF was doing speed and dropped 2 hits. The trip started off like it did everytime. Fun and entertaining then the trip began to become very intense and scary. The visuals were so strong it became uncomfortable. Then he noticed his heart rate was very fast and a huge rush of panic and impending doom came over him. the next thing he knew he was at a payphone (which was melting in his hand) calling an ambulance. The ride in the ambulance was crazy and the EMT kept telling him he could be having a heat attack at any moment. He told the EMT to stop talking like that because it wasn't helping at all. He said at one point he was looking out the back windows as he drove down the street and it looked as if he was flying off the earth. He thought he had died. He ended up in the ER with a heart rate around 200 and they were just monitoring him incase of cardiac arrest. He was a very exprienced user of LSD and an occasional user of stimulants. He has for 20 years had anxiety becuase of it and his heart beat he can't stop focusing.
     
  11. jamesfromvegas

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    i know from past experiance that meth fucks with your visual trip for awhile
     
  12. Impure157

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    An acquaintance of mine is a huge fan of most amphetamines and LSD, and obviously he's combined them in the past. This guy generally handles the his substances well, for instance, despite taking a ten strip of LSD he was able to compose himself enough that a couple people he talked to that night had no idea about the kind of mental state he was in. So with that being said, he personally loves the combination of LSD with some type of amphetamine whether that's street meth, adderall, dextroamphetamine, etc. He's enjoyed them all. This acquaintance says that the combination results in a more intense euphoria than the two on their own. Not only is the euphoria more intense but the stimulant also allows for a much clearer train of thought and clears up any sort of confusion or muddled thoughts from the LSD. The combination of the amphetamines mental clarity/focus along with the abstract thinking LSD allows are one my acquaintances favorite feelings.
     
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    well I seem to remember when I took two cubes of lsd and was having a grand time with the whole visual trip and escape from reality. then my buddy came over with some meth and i smoked sum with him and my trip paused for awhile lost most of my tracers ect.. well my girlfriend at the time came home from work and i told her I had sum lsd and it was pretty good , well she only took one instead of two. so being the glutton of getting foobared, i took the other cube and it re kicked in my trip. so all in all I would say either do one or the other not both. also I ve heard of people freaking out just on acid, so the meth wont make you freak its your environment and those you surround yourself with that lead to how your going to behave on lsd. remember your mood is important when dealing with hallucigens
     
  14. MindSlave

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    I'd say the meth would or could make you "freak" if you remain consciously aware of what it's doing to your body. When I tried ice for the first time, it felt like the best kind of poison. I'm sure combining LSD with that frame of mind would ensure a not-so-fun experience overall. (Which reminds me, I need to start putting some time into trip reports. :rolleyes:)
     
  15. tOUSS

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    SWiM has done this combo twice... It is probably SWiM's favorite drug combinaton. SWiM felt the most satisfying body high, and some pretty subtle visualizations. He will say He's not usually so talkative on shit but this combo did prod it out of him; He felt like he might of over talked a bit, but not to an uncontrollable, or obnoxious, extent.

    What SWiY should consider before this is endeavor: have a trip group or sitter? Trust them? Comfortable with them? Have any experience with LSD? Have any experience with Meth? Does SWiY let his tweak get out of hand?

    SWiM has a good couple years experience with shit, using periodically, but not continually. He's also done LSD on several occasions. It is important to be comfortable with both, as to aid SWiY with gauging and maintaining a good, non threatening trip, The combo is fairly straight forward in that it seems like an even composite of both drugs' or what you'd expect out of either respective drug on it's own.

    The most important thing to keep in mind a midst this strange and, possibly unsettling, adventure, is that SWiY should know when to stop... SWiM's talking dog, accompanied him for the night, for the trip with a few other close friends, and SWiM's dog, hit the pipe pretty fucking hard, and he payed for it. Take it easy, and set aside the appropriate amount of time, which, at least for SWiM, was from brunch till about dusk.

    OH, and SWiM had a sizable sack of trees, as well, that he and his cohorts burned through over the course of the night, which really helps out if SWiU starts to feel the edge creeping up.
     
  16. ethylnaut

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    Sounds like a waste of good acid. Wouldnt the speed cancel the trip?

    ethylnaut added 3 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

    If i did, accidently combine, it might be enough for me to completely freak out
     
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  17. Lemon3

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    Do NOT take LSD with Meth, and do NOT take LSD with any other Stimulants.

    Reasons:
    -> The meth/ and or Stimulants WITH LSD cause seizures.
     
  18. sideslanga

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    I fuckin looooove it
     
  19. Psychonaut94

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    Me and a female friend recently tried this combination, with very positive results. A low-medium dose of acid and casually smoked methamphetamine the whole night. Normally i have anxiety doing either of the two alone but they seemed to synergize perfectly to an amazing combination with no anxiety and an unfeatable euphoria.

    We spent the first few hours of the night cuddling because it just felt so amazing just being intimate and touching each other, then that gradually turned into sex which went on for a few hours followed by a long night of deep conversations and cuddling.

    Highly recommended, but make sure you be smart and dont take a big dose of acid or one will likely either panic and go into a state of catatonia (Happened a long time ago with high dose of psychedelic) or just end up being very loopy/maniacal/crazy and irritate others.

    And also visuals were very subtle and didnt last long but the body high really made the trip what it was. Have fun kids
     
  20. Alteratiion

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    I have bad personal experiences with amphetamines and psychedelics. On the other hand, I love Phenethylamines (psychedelic amphetamines, at least from what I understand). 25I-NBOMe, being my favorite, especially when mixed with alcohol and pot, will always be a personal favorite. My tabs are 1,200mcg, which is around a dose and a half. 4 of those send me to the moon ;)

    (Note: 4,800mcg of 25I is no joke. I have quite a bit of experience with it, please don't do that much)