Maconha brava - Possible Cannabis Alterna

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  1. Thirdedge

    Thirdedge Gold Member

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    I found this infomation and was wondering if anyone knows anything about this plant being smoked to give a Cannabis like high.


    Macohna brava

    ZORNIA LATIFOLIA - Leguminosae (Maconha Brava, urinana)


    RITUAL EMPLOYMENT:

    The dried leaves are smoked in Brazil as an hallucinogenic substitute for
    Cannabis. The vernacular name Maconha Brava means 'false Marijuana,.

    USAGE:

    The leaves are dried and smoked. "The dried seeds are smoked as a hallucinogenic substitute for Cannabis"
    --Plants of the Gods

    ACTIVE PRINCIPLES:

    No psychoactive principles have been reported from the genus.

    EFFECTS:

    Reported to be similar to Marijuana. Euphoric smoke.

    DANGERS:

    No dangers known, should be quite safe.

    SOURCES:

    Unfortunately none known. Native to South America
    Origin (native to where): Brazil, South America, Africa – not threatened.

    Machona Brava is listed as an ingredient in the New Zealand legal Cannabis alternative Spice. I have tried Spice and the high is indeed similar to Cannabis. I am curious if this is mainly due to the Machona brava.

    A websearch shows there are many Zornia species, perhaps others in the genus are smokable too?

    Anyone heading to Brazil? Care to try a few cones and let us know the outcome;)
     
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  2. Sick Jack

    Sick Jack Newbie

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    Maconha Brava, means "false cannabis" ? Personnaly I had translated this as "wild weed".....
     
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    dclacomb Silver Member

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    Sounds very interesting, I wish there were more information on it.[​IMG]
     
  4. sands of time

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    Hmm... I would be interested to say the least.
     
  5. Thirdedge

    Thirdedge Gold Member

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    Heres some random quotes I found online regarding this species:

    its actually really interesting when you mix mj with it as a tobacco substitute. if it was plentiful i'd be using that instead of tobacco.

    Got around to doing a small assay of some Z. diphylla seeds and leaves last night. 3 seeds and a pinch of leaves were added to a cigarette, taste is slightly harsh but ok, in a grass type of way. Roughly 3-5 minutes after coming back inside, i notice an increase (or at least a feeling of) in heartrate and an anticipation, sort of like being at the edge ofan experience. I have to get up for a minute or so to walk this off and it tapers off into a dopey type of sedation. Sleep is deep and good, slight hangover feeling today but nothing unpleasant. I get the feeling there may be more to this herb at a dose of 5 seeds and a good pinch of leaves.


    I believe there is definently something to this species. The seeds have an unusual but reminiscent smell.

    I have to say the effects 30 minutes in until the following lunchtime reminded me of cannabis from all those years ago.
     
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