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Experiences - Maeng Da Kratom First Time Use.

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by Nade2oh1, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. Nade2oh1

    Nade2oh1 Newbie

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    My pet hedgehog Sonic just received his first shipment of kratom in the mail, he ordered a small batch of goodies. 20 Maeng da caps, 2g sample of Bali Fusion and 10g of Thai. Sonic just consumed 5 (2.5mg total) caps of the Maeng da and wants to share his experience here on DF, he figures it might be useful for future hedgehogs looking for info on what to expect during first time use.

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    I meant to say 2.5G not mg. Does anyone know how to edit a post??

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    +1:00 - consumed 2 more caps (1 gram) intake now at 3.5 grams. Sonic is not feeling anything yet.
    Just to be clear Sonic did smoke some mary jane yesterday but other than that has not taken any other drugs for over a month. Sonic did get drunk 2 days ago and is a moderate/heavy drinker. The kratom was taken on an empty stomach.
     
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  2. picuru

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    do you have tolerance to opiates?
     
  3. Nade2oh1

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    Not that i am aware of. I have taken oxycodone a bunch of times and it makes me feel great at around the 20-25mg range. But i have not taken any opiates in months. Ive never used herion or any other opiates on a regular basis so i have no clue where my tolerance is at.

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    +2:30 - Sonic says that he is still to feel any sort of feeling or sensation from the 3.5G of the maeng da kratom he consumed over two and a half hours ago. He smoked a bit of bud and is now just a little high from the weed. He is about to take 4 more and see what happens.

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    +2:30 - Sonic says that he is still to feel any sort of feeling or sensation from the 3.5G of the maeng da kratom he consumed over two and a half hours ago. He smoked a bit of bud and is now just a little high from the weed. He is about to take 4 more and see what happens.
     
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  4. ianzombie

    ianzombie Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Did you take it on an empty stomach?
    Caps can take 1 hour + to dissolve and be absorbed.
    Leave it for a few days and try 5 grams.

    You could try making kratom tea with it.
     
  5. Nade2oh1

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    +4:15 Sonic has consumed over 5g and has felt little to no effect from the Maeng da. He has since eaten some chinese food and will now consume the remaining 9 caps (4.5g) in hopes to get some some of indication that the kratom is working. Right now Sonic is a bit disappointed with his experience.

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    Sonic would like to add the setting in which he is currently in. He started home alone home for a surfing the web and just chilling. Then Sonics friend Knuckles showed up with his girlfriend, they all passed around a blunt and watched a few episodes of breaking bad. Sonic then when to get some chinese food which he washed down with a 12 oz can of beer. He just consumed another 2 grams and now his nose is starting to itch, similiar to the inch he gets when taking oxycodone, his body temp has also risen, but that may be due to the spicy chinese food he just consumed.

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    +6:00 Last of the 20 500mg Maeng Da caps ingested, Sonic also took one shot of rum and smoked a little bud. Overall he claims no feelings of heightened sensation that can directly be attributed to the kratom. He does however have a strange feeling of tightness in his upper chest and itchiness. Sonic seems disappointed that the maeng da has not lived up to his expectations.

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    +8:30 Sonic is tired and going to lay down and try to sleep. He will try the 10g of the Bali Strain he has on sunday.
     
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  6. ianzombie

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    Try not to take other drugs with it next time, kratoms effects can be completly masked by them.
    Do not eat for at least 4 hours before taking them, an empty stomach makes a huge difference.

    Without mentioning the vendor, did you buy the kratom from a headshop or somewhere that sells 'legal highs' and other drugs. Or did you buy from a shop that only sells Kratom and has a good reputation? Did you research the vendor and their products before buying?

    It might be a good idea to try the kratom without the caps. Caps dont work with everyone.
    Empty 5 or more grams out (weigh it with a digital scales)
    Mix it into some sauce and eat it
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    Mix it into some juice and drink it all
    OR
    put it in a pot with some water and a little lemon juice, boil it for 20 minutes, strain out the powder and drink the tea.
     
  7. Nade2oh1

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    Sonic took his original dose on an empty stomach and had not consumed any other drugs 12 hours prior to ingesting the kratom. He purchased a few samples from a reputable vendor online that only sells kratom.

    He received 20 - 500mg Maeng Da caps and 10gr of Thai extract powder and 2g of Bali fusion powder.

    He is going to try to drink the Bali Fussion powder on monday to see if he feels any effects from that strain.

    He may try the Maeng Da strain again from another vendor sometime in the future. But was completely disappointed with his experience yesterday. He did sleep pretty well tho. :thumbsdown:
     
  8. Mr Gregoire

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    your vendor could be a poor quality vendor. you should have felt something, especially with maeng da, and especially since it was first time.
     
  9. jbt4192

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    As any herbal substance, anything could change the effect (e.g. dehydration, vitamin deficiencies, sleep deprivation, and sometimes even current setting/environment). I agree with Mr Gregoire though, it would have worked in your situation after consuming the amount you did. But when I see someone state a 20-25mg dose for desired effect from oxycodone, your tolerance to opiods seems higher than most (probably requiring a higher dose of kratom). I believe it states somewhere online that weaker grade of kratom effects are felt in 10g.

    I personally do not feel ok purchasing "caps" from vendors just yet. I have wonderful experiences with kratom. I can take 1g and be perfectly content, but of course with different strains/tolerance, desired amount may be more. And I chase mine(toss it on the tongue, head back, swallow with water or juice). I feel that capsules can change the initial effect due to digesting it oddly or something. And that goes for any capsule's content (Personal statement).

    FYI, the kratom I consume is not of any extract or special grade. Those who seek effects for pain, I recommend "Red Vein" strains.

    PLUR
     
  10. JJ1234

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    Either it's weak kratom or you are like me and it takes more to feel an effect than many. 10 grams works well for me of any plain leaf that I have tried. Some enhanced blends I have gotten waxed off 1 gram but they are very pricey.

    So in short try some more! If it don't work then maybe kratom just isn't for you.
     
  11. GeographyGeography

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    Afoaf recently purchased Maeng Da 15g. 34 capsules were in bag so each is less than 500mg or did she get extra? not sure about that. Anyway, assume they are 500mg (underdosing better). She took 2g on empty stomach. Only previous experience is with 1.5g of a 20x extract about 5 days prior. In about 90 minutes felt a light but head-heavy stone, like a cleaner hydrocodone. Went away rather quickly, only about 2 hours of this effect. Mixed 1.5g more into frozen OJ and consumed. Did not prolong the effect and felt nearly nothing extra.
     
  12. jbt4192

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    To the reports whom have minimal to zero effects. How is your opiate tolerance? If I consume 15-20mg oxycodone, it gets me uncomfortable, nausea feelings, and no encouragement to redose. And thats how 4-5g of kratom feels on my behalf. Tolerance will play a keen role, I understand this. But I still only need 2g, 3g at most, to cure the mind-state/body pain I'm escaping from.
     
  13. JJ1234

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    Wow that is great to feel those effects off that little amount of kratom! To me 5 grams is more like 10mg of hydrocodone. 10 grams is like 20mg. Anything above that didn't do much more for me although i only tried up to 15 grams. When used side by side with hydrocodone it synergized(think that's the correct word) very nicely. Like 10mg of hyrdocodone + 5 grams kratom felt more like 30 mg hydrocodone.

    All kratom sampled that I am talking about was plain leaf powder and effects were similar. Some slighlty weaker, some stronger. some more speedy, some relaxing. This was a sample pack that had about 10 varieties and Maeng Da was one of them.

    Also enhanced leaf is killer but pricey. Only 1 gram of the most enhanced leaf was needed to equal 10 of the plain leaf!