maoi exat dangerous quantity

Discussion in 'DMT and Ayahuasca' started by Memantine, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. Memantine

    Memantine Titanium Member

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    heloo ive read about maoi contraindications and it includes as food chocolate. ive eaten chocolate and sausage today, but only a little chocolate and2 sausage; is this still enough to delay my experience with yaje...
     
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    One never knows until one tries. Best to stick to the diet before hand, and for at least a day afterwards.



    Precautions are there to keep people safe. Different people have
    diferent body chemistries, differing abilities to ingest certain type
    foods with MAOI. It's never a good idea no matter who it is.



    In the worst case scenario with an extremely sensitive person, extreme sickness or death could result.
     
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    anybody else got more to say? experiences defying the diet? im very sad because i had to abort this operation since the ration of chocolate wasn't too much anyways, i'm afraid i might have fucked it up. ive read chocolate and milk dont have too much tyramine and dont pose too much of a risk compared to other foods, also the sausages where consumed like 20 hours ago, a beer like 16-15 hours ago. could i have put through it or no way? im srry if the q uestion is stupid, but im a little obsessive and need to know. thanks.
     
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    Look at it this way. Good things are worth planning ahead for.
    And good things are worth waiting for if planning becomes piss-poor.



    And also bad things are never welcome things.



    Someone else will probably chime in here eventually.
     
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    well ok... thanks for the moral support, its just that my mind was so programmed for me to do it this day it hit me very bad when i noticed i probably couldn't although there was a probability i could. what do you mean by 'Someone else will probably chime in here eventually.'?
     
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    I meant, I hoped another forum member besides us two would add their comments, experience, or expertise.
     
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    Consuming tyramine wont affect the dmt, you'll still get the effects.
    THe problem is the migraine headaches for the next few days afterwards.
     
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    Actually, though you should take precautions, I have broken the rules
    frequently with both moclebemide and harmaline/harmine with just mild
    headaches. I think that the bigger problem is hypertension, however,
    which is more dangerous potentially than a headache. Better safe than
    sorry ...

    Snapper
     
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    oh i thought it was easy to get serotonin syndrome by braking the maoi food rules... i could have taken this stuff then since i dont mind about the headaches alot. well, i can't turn back time so im fucked. thanks for the feedback. bye the way, anybody knows how many days before consuming the harmaline i should begin abstaining from tyramine foods? also, if i took valium (20 mg) like4-6 hours before taking the ayahuasca would it diminish the dmt effects? I ask this because some people take benzos to abort their trips.. bye...
     
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    1-2 days before hand on the food, at least, to be happy and free of unpleasant side effects.



    The MAOI may make it hard for your system to rid itself of the valium,
    extending it's half-life in your body. That could make your trip
    less than it could/should be.



    Prolly better to save the valium for afterwards, if you need it.
     
  11. Memantine

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    People, word of advice:

    When you're young you want to do everything fast, can't wait. How many times have I seen silly accidents because of this. We live in the age of internet, so wise up, and just follow the rules, it's pretty simple. Things like Ayahuasca deserve a certain degree of planning. Now, if you're in Peru and just met a Shaman who wants to trip you out, and have just eaten a bar of chocolate, don't worry, because that was probably something else (as everything in this world).