Drug info - MeOPP (para-methoxyphenylpiperazine) Drug Info

Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by hh339, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. hh339

    hh339 Gold Member

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    Jun 13, 2004
    Please post info about MeOPP here.

    Can anyone add information about:
    • names / synonyms
    • molecule
    • dose
    • duration
    • side effects
    • legal status
    • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
    • since when has this research chemical been available?
    • stability of the molecule / compound

    Names: MEOPP

    Experiences with MEOPP should be discussed here: MeOPP experiences
    These documents about MeOPP are in the file archive
    MeOPP pics
    Research Chemicals Index - Phenethylamines
    Research Chemicals Index - Tryptamines

    Has anyone tried MeOPP a.k.a 1-(4-Methoxyphenyl)piperazine? Maybe it would be nice to mix it with TFMPP, just like with N-bezylpiperazine (A2). I´m a little worried though, because the 4-Methoxyamphetamine(PMA)is quite dangerous and maybe this is too. Anyone who knows or have tried it? If so, what would be the recommended first dose? Peace and love!!
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  2. Triple7

    Triple7 Gold Member

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    from sweden
    I've tried it.. had a 5g hcl crystal that looked to be coated by wax. I
    cut a peace that looked to be 1-1.2g.. this wax tastes like the
    crystal.. it bit of hurts. white crystal, yellow wax.. because i don't
    know what that wax is - I scraped it off. In erowid it is said the
    crystal is purple... maybe that is the freebase one?? And what is
    this wax for?? To protect against oxygen and sunlight?? Or is it some
    reaction with air??

    All measuremenst are eyeballs here. First I smoked 2 times 50mg
    pieces.. nothing happened.. it vaporized very quickly.. I thought it
    might got destroyed by the air when heating.. so i started to disolve
    the crystals in water. They disolve rather slow.. made sure to cut
    small pieces.. in 3-4h I had eaten the remaings of my 1-1.2g crystal.

    I don't know if there happened something, or if I imagine.. but it felt
    that time moved slow. 1 minute felt quite a long time. My eyes were NOT
    dilated. No euphoria.. or other stuff that one might expect. I felt
    calm, but I don't know if that has to be with that I tried to stay as
    calm as possible. And I was able to fall asleep.

    MeOPP seems to be useless when used alone. Otherwise I know it is used
    in piperazines stacks... and the texts I found, said that they took
    50-500mg of MeOPP oral and had good effects.. I took more and had
    (almost?) nothing.
  3. Triple7

    Triple7 Gold Member

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    Oct 26, 2004
    from sweden
    I just read that another guy had same feelings as me. Relaxed.

    Now, I belive I was under influence.. such that time went slower.

    MeOPP alone.. not worth it... unless there are some maggots and parasites in your body ;)
  4. Triple7

    Triple7 Gold Member

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    Oct 26, 2004
    from sweden
    Took my first 100mg methylone today. I expected calmness from
    methylone, but there wasn't really. Instead I experienced clearness.
    Methylone, meopp and ephedra would be substances I like to call quite
    soft. Pherhaps I would change my mind if I took 300mg methylone.

    Anyway.. about the calmness. When I had meopp, I felt much calmer than
    from methylone. Valium makes one calm too and you get more or less
    drowsy.. there is no drowsyness from meopp. I'd say methylone is
    cleaness, meopp calmness and valium is calmness with drowsyness.

    Well, I guess my body is different from many others. In some psych
    test, they found out that I have a calmness that can only be hound in
    1/10.000, I don't know what to say about that.. benzos, opium or
    weed tend not to work at all at some occations. (nor did I ever puke
    from opium, even if I took a very large dose). People take things, and
    I take at the same time with them, and it happened many times that I
    had no idea what they talk about. I did not experience the same.

    If now meopp does induce calmness, then this might be some alternative for some benzo lovers.

    I hope this helped a little bit.

    PS. I feel a little calmness from codein too.
  5. Pino

    Pino Gold Member

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    May 20, 2007
    35 y/o from The Netherlands
    Re: MeOPP

    A little summary from my experiences with this compound.

    The duration of MeOPP is 4-6 hours. The oral dosage is 100-500 mg. Above the 500 mg more side effects occur. 250 seems to be optimal for swim (his weight is ~ 75 kgs and he is male). 400 gets him a headache and makes him nauseas. The effects are like a emphatic downer:

    • Euphoria
    • Appreciation of music
    • More social
    • Relaxation
    • Closed eye visuals, weak ones.
    There are also side effects:

    • Nausea.
    • Loss of appetite.
    • Headache.
    • Temperature goes up.
    It is not something I would do in a club. He never combined it with bzp.
  6. vinylmesh

    vinylmesh Newbie

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    Re: MeOPP

    I took 200 mg MeOPP which came in the form of a pill he bought in his local headshop.

    He was was playing x-box and talking to his friend who had come over when he started feeling the effects.

    The pill made SWIM feel relaxed (definately not placebo).

    I did not expeirience any CEV's or yawning, which he was expecting (maybe with a higher dose).

    I felt chilled out to the point where every time his friend asked him something he would just reply "uh-huh".

    I did not experience any hangover or withdrawal effects.


    While the MeOPP proved to be very calming, no real euphoria was felt.
    I think this compund, or at least other Serotonin agonists could be used in the future as anxiolytics as they take effect immediately and lack both euphoria and mental dulling.

    However..... while it shows no recreational potential on it's own. I have a sneaky suspicion that when taken with a dopamergenic compound it'll really take off! ;)
  7. surveilled

    surveilled Silver Member

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    Jul 16, 2011
    from poland
    Re: MeOPP

    This is a very interesting compound - it is not a stimulant. The difference between MeOPP and amphetamine/buphedrone is like an energetic drink compared to an isotonic. Buphedrone squeezes your energy resources, and when it fades, you are left even more exhausted than in the first place. If it's bedtime, you're lucky. But what, if it isn't?

    MeOPP blocks the reuptake of monoamines, elevating their levels in the synaptic cleft. This solution is more permanent (up to 10 hours, I'd say), and less harmful. It gives you 100% of your capabilities, and not a percent more.

    However, it can be used effectively only, when you're tired. Using it while rested and motivated will give you nothing, but a crappy feeling on your body. That's not a price worth paying, just to be 1% more capable of living.