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Drug info - Meth & General Ampehtamine Testing?

Discussion in 'Amphetamine' started by AuroraDomminik, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. AuroraDomminik

    AuroraDomminik Newbie

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    I have a question about crystal meth and speed that I hope only someone whom really knows can help me with.

    I really have researched this and found shaking unsure / different answers so I'm still quite uncertain.

    What is the maxium time frame crystal meth and speed is detecble by a drug test especially done to find such drugs.

    I have no idea what type of test it will be saliva, urine, blood so there for Sims just looking for the one that would show it for the longest, assuming that would be a blood test, which it most likley will be.

    It's pretty critical that I get an accurate answer, Other wise swims gonna get in all sorts of trouble. If you guys dont know would you be able to tell me how I can find out 100% certainly. Would a doc no could I go see a doc and find out? Or visit somejere that would know? I'm in qld australia
     
  2. papsmirnoff

    papsmirnoff Newbie

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    I would like to apoligize in advance for all the words that i'm about to slaughter in posting this but when your stuck in a lab chamber with all of these wires sticking out of your head and yes being a monkey your bound to make some mistakes. From what i have read, and its been extensive Meth will be out of your system in 2-4 days. My buddy Swim i think that is his name, likes to IV meth and he has been doing it for some time (5years) is wondering if it will stay in his system even longer then the 2-4 days i found someone talking about it and they said it was gone after 6 days... That same friend tried something that he was told, it had to do with 2 tablespoons of baking soda one 16 ounce glass of water then followed by another 16 ounce of water and taking a leak one time then taking another for the test. I'm sure it's all a fib though for there is NO WAY you can trick a drug test i mean the ph balance would never be thrown off if you where to do that it's just silly :) My friend also swears up and down that he nows he is clean when he cannot smell that smell that most tweakers have its kinda like a chemical bo smell when it's gone he says he is clean. When you work out you can smell it, it gets harder to smell over a couple of days but it's pretty noticable if you are aware of it, and from what i know about meth its something that the individual can smell on themselfs better then anyone else. all this is just Hersay though... I would go get a 4 dollar drug test from any supermarket that has a pharmacy and test yourself if your in dought, that piece of mind helps my pesky friend swim out alot.
     
  3. iNFRiNGE

    iNFRiNGE Silver Member

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    This is about as accurate you'll get for each of the listed test methods and drugs test for. Buy a home test kit prior to testing to check yourself out first.

    Approximate values for detection periods

    Amphetamines
    • Urine: 1 to 5 days
    • Blood / Oral Fluid (Saliva): 12 hours
    • Hair: up to 90 days* (Depending on length of hair some report up to a year)
    Methamphetamine
    • Urine: 3 to 5 days
    • Blood / Oral Fluid (Saliva): 1–3 days
    • Hair: up to 90 days* (Depending on length of hair some report up to a year)

    I'm assuming that you folks don't have the home test kits for drugs, since you inquire about going to a doctor or some where to check for you.
     
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  4. AuroraDomminik

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    I am currently 100% clean, It's been 7 months, I am looking to jump on the speed or meth one night on an moderate occasion maybe once every 2months using pipe and needle.

    I am being tested at random times, I am going to wait for the first test to see what kind of test it is then jump on it within a few days after because I would have a 2/3week period before next test. So If I am completely clean now does it once less than a gram, would a blood test or urine test pick it up by week two or three later?

    I do not have the option to do a test from chemist then see if I would pass, the test must be performed with a day notice.

    This is I am looking to find out exactly before swim even does use, to plan and evade failure.
     
  5. iNFRiNGE

    iNFRiNGE Silver Member

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    First thing SWII would like to address is the fact that the person is willing to literally "throw away" what is a tremendous accomplishment of having 7 months sobriety at this time.

    WTF are they thinking and for what?

    Another concern SWII has is how casual and harmless the individual makes the following statement:
    "looking to jump on the speed or meth one night on an moderate occasion maybe once every 2 months using pipe and needle."

    SWII has highlighted a few words that stand out and has this "opinion" about what has been stated.

    In nearly 20 years SWII has seen very few Smokers if any but yet to see ANYONE who can "slam" on moderate occasions. SWII personally has never slammed (IV use) since some of SWII's close associates that did told SWII straight out, "DON'T DO IT, YOU'LL NEVER WANT TO DO IT ANY OTHER WAY AGAIN AND THIS IS NO LONGER FUN". It was SWII and Associates motto that any recreational drug use "should be" fun. And to this day SWII has yet to see Smokers and sure as hell no Slammer's who can remain a productive part of society for long.

    SWII's suggestion in all honesty is "DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!"

    The individual states that testing will be "random" and nonchalantly states they will have a 2-3 week window until the next test. Well SWII is sorry to say that "random" means exactly that. "Randomly" meaning they "can" test you at anytime, the following or the same day even if they suspect something.

    If you believe that you can slam up to a gram after being clean for 3 weeks and be able to function without a noticeable difference such as "rubber necking" that's seriously impressive or seriously shitty dope however, the misery that you will endure in between testing will far out weigh the "fun" you will enjoy on those "moderate occasions".

    We wish you sincere luck with your plan.

    Peace out,
    :smoker:
     
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  6. AuroraDomminik

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    I am trying to appreciate your concern but it just gets to me.

    Firstly people who don't just answer the question frustrate me, trying to influence their opinion as if they are disgusted. My spent a lot of time thinking about and knows very well, when you know nothing of the situation.

    Who do you think you are to change swim, I was under the impression this place is a save accepting website don't judge!

    Also I understand you might find it strange or impossible but believe it or not swims able to spend the weekend shooting and not even think about getting on again until Swim truly intends to and not needs too.

    My 7 months clean was because I was traveling, swims been using uv and pipe for speed and prue for over 2years moderation all the way months in-between, don't get me wrong in the very beginning swim lost control, but love for it taught swim that moderation and rare use will allow swim to use it always and make each time that much more enjoyable. My very strong don't know how I do it but I do so thanks but I got this!

    Also just started new work that requires a test that's why I need this info

    AuroraDomminik added 7 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

    Clearly you think I'm an idiot, id just like to add I have been shooting two years once or twice every 3/5 too 7months on big events as a rare crazy night.

    The test is random at starting point from then it will be a minium of 3weeks space before the next one which will then come randomly get it!? I wouldn't shoot evey three weeks and try to control the comedown's and days between or what ever you were talking about, as I said before and again it's very minimal use but when I do get on I go hard

    AuroraDomminik added 3 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

    Grrrr and swim never said slamming a gram I said it would be up too, just to be save,
     
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  7. iNFRiNGE

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    Hmm, people that don't read, overlook and then bitch and moan frustrate the hell out of me, yet I still will pass on SWII advice or information regardless. There are others that will benefit and that's what matters here.

    A few things here,

    1. I answered your question 2 posts ago, but will say it again a little louder this time since you apparently overlooked it while focusing on a "suggestion" that many people in recovery from meth would more than likely agree with and you, your friend SWIM or anybody else for that matter does not have to either.
    2. Nobody here is trying to change anyone INCLUDING your SWIM. But somebody else reading this thread just might read that suggestion and think twice about what inevitably is going to happen in the end.
    3. Read my previous post again, apparently you misread that I stated "up to a gram", although it's now pointless.
    4. Where you perceived that the suggestion was out of disgust is seriously mind boggling, it's was a sincere reply and a suggestion that you in no way need to accept.
    Here's your answer AGAIN!

    Approximate values for detection periods!

    Amphetamines
    • Urine: 1 to 5 days
    • Blood / Oral Fluid (Saliva): 12 hours
    • Hair: up to 90 days* (Depending on length of hair some report up to a year)
    Methamphetamine
    • Urine: 3 to 5 days
    • Blood / Oral Fluid (Saliva): 1–3 days
    • Hair: up to 90 days* (Depending on length of hair some report up to a year)

    :thumbsup:


    Yo papsmirnoff,

    Couple of things for you here I'll address each of them separately.

    These are some factors that determine how long it takes for your system to be clean.

    Amount Ingested
    The more of the drug you ingest, the longer it takes your body to get rid of it.

    Frequency of Use

    Continued use over a period of time or using more often increases your intake amount, this slows down the time it takes for your body to process it out.

    Tolerance Levels

    If you're using meth every day, it will accumulate in your body. Over time, it will take longer for your system to release it. Heavy meth addicts have the longest detection time on drug tests.

    Metabolism Rate

    Your metabolism is what processes everything that comes into your body. Some people will metabolize the drug from their system faster than others do. Your metabolism rate depends on many factors such as your body size, age and health, as well as water and food intake.

    Body Mass

    The bigger you are, the longer it takes for the drug to get out of your system. How long it takes meth to clear they system for each exact body size is still undetermined.

    Age

    Your age affects many bodily functions such as your metabolism rate and its ability to release toxins, such as methamphetamine, quickly from your body.

    Health

    If you're in good physical health, your bodily functions probably are too and can quickly process toxins. If you are in poor health, it may take longer for your body to recognize the toxins and then clear them from your body.

    Method of Use

    The way that you ingest meth also has to do with how long your body holds on to it. If you inject it, it goes straight into your bloodstream; this gives you the fastest high. It may give you lesser processing time to get out your system. When the drug is smoked or swallowed, it takes a longer time to enter your bloodstream; this will add time to how long the meth stays in your system.


    Now helping the cleansing process
    Depending on how much fluid and how fast your body excretes it will determine how long it stays in your system. Methamphetamine is "water soluble" and so the more water you drink and the more you urinate and sweat the faster it is out of your system. Drink lots of cranberry juice and lots of water also take antioxidants.

    The baking soda thing would raise the pH of your urine and not sure or heard of doing that but, there is a way to pass a "urine" test that has been thoroughly tested at least 30 times without fail on various types of urinalysis including both court and employment appointed facilities. You can find what to do via google I'm sure if you look hard enough, many people claim it does not work, SWII positive it failed because they did the procedure incorrectly, however that's a whole other story.


    Body odor and the smell of meth coming out of your system
    This is due to a couple of factors or situations but the same prevention can be taken. When a person uses meth for an extended amount of time usually they do not take care of their health very well especially since eating is no longer a normal part of life nor is sleep. Lack of nutrition and fatigue play a major part in your body odor, your body will start to pump out the toxins through your skin which at times smell anywhere from ammonia, metallic, chlorine, onions and various other scents. Your buddy SWIM more than likely has started eating again normally and not using which is why once the smell is gone he feels he is clean which may have some validity but probably more likely his body is getting the vitamins it needs.

    Precautions to minimize body odor and aid your bodies general health.
    There are quite a few things that meth hammers in your body that should be addressed but I'll cover just a few quickly to address the odor issue. Take multivitamins while you are using, and take additional amounts of Vitamins B-Complex (bad breath) and B-12 (body odor).

    Also buy mouthwash that is specifically formulated for "Dry Mouth" it will state this on the label, follow the directions (1 minute 2 times a day shouldn't be hard) :rolleyes: these mouth washes are formulated for individuals who in fact suffer from dry mouth or take medications that cause dry mouth which is constantly labeled as "Meth Mouth" by the fucknut media, when in fact there are over 1000 prescription and OTC medications that cause the same condition that meth does by stopping the production of saliva, unfortunately there are more tweakers walking around with a trashed grill that smells like someone shit in their mouth than unhealthy Xanax or Viagra users so tweakers get to carry the label and be the poster children.

    Hope that helps answer some of your questions.

    :smoker:
     
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  8. papsmirnoff

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    Thank you.
     
  9. iNFRiNGE

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    You're welcome ;)
     
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    I know the general guidelines for meth detection in urine is 3-5 days, but I have heard that in some cases it can be out of your system in as short as 24 hours. I tried meth for the first time two nights ago, I snorted one very fat line that I estimate was .2 grams. I am very thin, 6'2 and 130 lbs, and I generally have a pretty fast metabolism. Given that I only used once, didn't use very much, and have a good body for quickly metabolizing drugs, when do you think I would be able to pass a test? It has been roughly 35 hours since I snorted the line, and I may have to pass a home-test within the next 12 hours. Do I have any chance?
     
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    I definitely have to say that was the most detailed, interesting and we'll written meth knowledge I've ever read.