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Combinations - Mixing Adderall and Clonazepam

Discussion in 'Drug combinations' started by Ragster, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. Ragster

    Ragster Newbie

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    I'm a newcomer to these forums, so be easy on me. I was curious as to the effects of mixing adderall and Clonazepam. Is it a bad idea, is it pointless or does it cause a more intense high?
     
  2. betsym

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    Swim took some Klonipin once with her Adderall because she had taken a tad too much Adderall by mistake (didn't split evenly)and got a little panicky. After taking the Klonipin, she started feeling a little "strange" as in, almost TOO calm. She felt like she wasn't even breathing, she was so calm. A trip to the doctor's office revealed that her blood pressure had dropped a little too low. Since swim doesn't get "high" from Adderall (it is rather an "equalizer" for her), she probably couldn't say what that combo might do to somebody who wasn't ADHD but putting an upper with a downer might just throw the whole experience into "neutral." The blood pressure thing is something to keep an eye on, though. Stimulants normally RAISE blood pressure but they can react funny with other drugs and not be what is expected so learn to expect the unexpected.

    Swim will go ahead and say it "gently" since somebody else is bound to, this being swiy's (someone who isn't you) first post and all: there is no 'I' , me, you, myself, or yourself, in the fishbowl here. Swim (someone who isn't me) and swiy (" " " you) are the main fish swimming here :). See, wasn't that easy on swiy? Just trying to save swiy from getting told, somewhat less easy, later on. Welcome aboard.
     
  3. Ragster

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    :s SWIM is curious as to what a couple of clonazepam and a beer would do then.

    Ragster added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

    Swim is also curious as to what a couple of Clonazepam and one beer would do, perhaps intensify the "moment"?

    Ragster added 1 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

    Swim is also curious as to what a couple of Clonazepam and one beer would do, perhaps intensify the "moment"? :vibes:

    Ragster added 22 Minutes and 5 Seconds later...

    What if SWIM wanted to try Clonazepam and Concerta together? Also, SWIM isn't sure of the Concerta pill dosages, all it says on the pill is alza 36.
     
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  4. betsym

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    Clonazepam and beer might not be a good idea, no more than Xanax and beer is. There is a pretty good risk of going to sleep and not waking up because both substances are depressants. If "intensifying the moment" means nodding off, then yeah it might but swim wouldn't try it. That's just her opinion, though. Swim has never taken Concerta, only Adderall , so can't comment on that.
     
  5. Felix Guattari

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    alza 36 is 36 mg of methylphenidate in an extra-long time release form (check out the technology behind it, as its kinda neat). Commenting on the appropriateness of dosages is almost pointless, as tolerance and neurochemistry make a big difference (SWiM would feel rather little from 36 mg). Generally, however, as long as one is careful, a small dose of a benzo with methylphenidate can be a good thing.

    If SWiY is a stimulant virgin or at least somewhat stim. naive (i.e., is fairly new and inexperienced with such things), 36 mg will likely leave you feeling pretty good. Unless there's a marked amount of unpleasant anxiety present, I'd leave out the benzos. But keep them on hand in case there's an issue. If you do take benzos with methylphenidate, just don't let SWiY's dosages of each get much higher than they usually are alone. Frequent failure to do so is a big part of the reason speedballs have such a rep of being dangerous.

    Unless you're experienced with the ins and outs of downers
    and combinations thereof (and I assume SWiY is not, as they asked the question), or falling asleep really fast with a hint of life-threatening danger is SWiY's idea of a good time, in SWiM's experience benzos + alcohol is just not really a good idea to mess around with.
     
  6. mykeamine

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    When swim got his molars removed was (ironically) the same time swim discovered his speedy love - adderall.

    so swim's head was speedballin' everyday for two weeks off ty3s and adderall. swim said it felt—with teh right dosage of each—like a light mdma trip.
     
  7. e4rolls

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    Every time SWIM mixes benzo's with alcohol, he gets really messed up: slurred speech, dizziness, clumzy. SWIM soon gets really sleepy and has to pass out before he gets sick. That combination kinda sucks for SWIM.

    SWIM thinks benzo's are kinda lame for recreational use.
    Also, useing benzo's in combination with methylphenidate or amphetamine is counterproductive to getting a buzz. SWIM says that stimulants are less noticable when on benzo's.
    Alcohol and stimulants is also pretty lame because the more SWIY drinks, the more the need to keep dosing with more stims. Alcohol quickly overpowers methylphenidate and dexamphetamine.
    SWIM recalls that benzo's (in moderate doses) are great in combination with cocaine though. :thumbsup:
     
  8. lucy in the sky

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    there's no point in combining them because adderall is an upper and klonopin a downer so when combined they neutralize each other.
     
  9. static_vodka_420

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    swim says it all depends on dosage

    he says

    1. if small amounts of clonazepam are ingested throughout the dexam buzz then it adds a calmness to the buzz leading to an even greater level of sociability it takes away all of the negative efects of amphetamines in this way and adds a little to the buzz however it is somewhat of a waste if one is looking to get plastered onn the clonazepam as the aderall will not allow it

    2. if swit takes clonazepam at the end/crash of the adderall buzz.. then swim will have no problem sleeping or coming down /and it gives him a decent buzz to go from up to down like that swim thinks benzos are a necessityy after a stimulant binge

    3. if swiy takes an immense dose of clonazepam(for swim around 15mg due to his tolerance) in the midst of the adderall buzz one will attain the classic benzo buzz with the added bonus of not falling a sleep and still being sociable but not stupid

    swim was once pescribed this combo
    60mg adderall xr once daily along with 10mg dexedrine once a day and 1 1mg clonazepam every 4-6 hours so he doubts thats its essentially dangerous but still advises caution
     
  10. RX420

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    swim was recently prescribed 20mg xrs and 1 mg klonopins. Swim personally finds kpins much more soothing than other benzos.

    He is somewhat nervous to take the adderall without a benzo because of swims well known anxiety probs.

    it doesnt seem too odd for both to be precribed together. but i could see how it could lead to abuse and maybe harder to obtain the rx.
     
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  11. WaggyRock

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    benzos & booze is a big no no imo.

    SWIM consumed about 6 beers & then ate 1 mg of Alrpazolam. Next thing you know SWIM woke up, looked around and said "da fuck?!"

    You get the idea. lol
     
  12. MisterV

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    SWIM only uses benzos to come down from the uppers and sleep. He had never any problems with it.
     
  13. This is bat country

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    Moderation, moderation.

    When it comes to benzos and booze, SWIM suggests tilting the scale in favor of the booze over the benzos. SWIM's personal experience of drinking a pint of jager and taking a forgotten number of pills, but only the ones he had on him (~2mg xan and ~4mg k).

    He's still alive and likes the adderall.clonazepam combo- it makes him social at 2mg klono+30(parachuted)+30(cap) xr, keeps him going through the day, and puts him in a decent mood- great chats with customers and so on without being obviously influenced by medications. Always keep another klono on you though because if you're at work while this is going on and someone sets you off, the amp isn't gonna help your mood any. That goes for any situation though- it's never a bad thing to have an extra couple benzos with you on stims in case you start raging.
     
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  14. chibi curmudgeon

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    1. It's not a dangerous idea.

    2. It might not be pointless, either.

    3. But it certainly won't cause a more intense high.

    Benzos can be helpful in taking some of the edge (irritability, paranoia) off stimulants. Possibly add a mood boost as well. Depends on what clonazepam does to the person, subjectively. If it makes one drowsy and lazy, then it would antagonize the effects of the amphetamines. If it's more of a peppy chill feeling, it could be a good addition.
     
  15. This is bat country

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    Personal experience- SWIM used to pop 6mg of klon and drink hard liquor like a fish and then drive home without any problems several times a week. And I'm not exaggerating to sound like a badass, He's lucky to be alive without probation or no drivers license,

    Outgrew that behavior. Back to SWIY- if you had taken .5 ally and 3 beers it would have been totally different in all likeliness.


    edit: to whoever added that reputation, a) remember SWIY and SWIM, b) read the part of the post where it says "lucky to be alive", and c) "Outgrew that behavior". Of course it's a bad idea. It was meant to illustrate the dramatic differences in tolerance and dosages between individuals and how very few combos are guaranteed to be dangerous, not encourage what was very irresponsible behavior on SWIMs part. If you want to cry more about it, I suggest going to some MADD meetings instead of coming to a forum that has what many people would find to be bad ideas and irresponsible behaviors.
     
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  16. chibi curmudgeon

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    This is a good example of differences in tolerance. Some people would die under those circumstances, before they even opened a car door. SWIY's lucky to not be in status epilepticus.
     
  17. This is bat country

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    SWIM is lucky to be a lot of things. Benzos are a scary drug, especially in combination with alcohol. In SWIM's experience, he felt a combination of euphoria and stimulation (which could have been controlled mania), motor control was only slightly impaired (if at all- paradoxical drug effects seem to occur frequently with swim however) at medium-high doses of both, but his personality would change so drastically that it bore no recognition to SWIM. Other than lowered inhibitions, the changes were atypical of benzo overdose or abuse (i.e. no paranoia, no aggressiveness, nothing of the sort- SWIM2 even had his own set of friends because he would go to certain spots during his manifestations). It was like SWIM was sitting on a couch in his mind while SWIM2 took the wheel. It's inexplicable, it's definitely a miracle of some sort, and now SWIM only uses benzos for occasional amp crashes because the thought of taking more than 2 or 3 mgs of kpin or a couple valium terrifies him for anything other than a bad comedown.
     
  18. VibeTribesman

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    A friend of a friend ate 30mg time release capsules adderall at 7 30 this morning. Then, at about 2:30 he ate 2 mg of klonopin. It is now 4:15 and he seems fine.

    The time gap could be corrupting the experiment, but I think they would probably be fine as long as you don't take too much of either.

    Don't take this as a total source of your information. Don't want someone ODing because I'm wrong.
     
  19. brandon561

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    Swim is prescribed 20mg adderall once a day along with 1mg alprazolam(xanax) twice a day. The benzo works very well when one is trying to go to sleep hours after taking the adderall. swim is still very new to stimulants though, he's most familiar with benzos and other downers.
     
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    SWIM agrees with these tips on this combo, and mostly refuses to call this combo any sort of high at all. Adderall on top of Clonazepam will not keep you anywhere close to on the ball throughout the stumbling of the benzo's, and Clonazepam on top of Adderall will only dull the effects of the stimulants. SWIY will find a weird sort of grumpy middle-ground, where nothing particularly good or interesting is happening.