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Experiences - Modafinil experiences

Discussion in 'Nootropics' started by Pino, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. Pino

    Pino Gold Member

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    Please add your experiences with Modafinil here. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EXAMPLE
    Dosage: 3 mg
    Route: Orally
    Duration: 16 hours

    When posting a experience, please describe:
    • body weight & gender
    • dose taken
    • route of administration
    • Setting: in what environment it was taken.
    • duration of main effects
    • main effects
    • side effects
    • after effects
    • rating of the experience
    • addictive qualities / abuse potential
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  2. Pino

    Pino Gold Member

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    Modafinil. The so hyped holy grail of those, who lack time and are willing to trade it for sleep. Swim is one of them. But he doesn't want to do serious damage to his body. So swim bought a load of modafinil and tried it out. He was a bit recklessly. The 'harmless drugs' media shower got to him.

    General

    Substance: Modafinil
    Body weight and gender: Male, 83 kgs
    Dosage: 200 mg, 200 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg (All oral)
    Duration: 3 days.
    Onset: 30 minutes. (Empty stomach). 1 hour (full stomach).
    Plateau: 15 hours
    Aftereffects: 6 hours.
    Effects: Small euphoria -seems to build when longer in the experience-, getting the whole time absorbed into things, which has to be done (Almost neurotic behavior). Sleeplessness. More energy. Impulsive behavior.
    Settings: At home while working, 'sleeping' with a girlfriend, in the woods, at a huge warehouse.
    Side effects: Small headache, which subside after a cup of coffee. Normal things after too little sleep. Heightened paranoia, strange mystic feelings etc.
    Hangover: Small headache and the feeling one had slept 6 hours in 3 days.
    Remarks: Blood pressure kept remarkably low. 144/86 with a peak (here caffeine was consumed) of 132/94 and a lowest 132/76 (here caffeine was consumed). Corresponding heart rates were: 65 (peak), 73 (average) and 64 (lowest). No change in body temperature. Normal eat pattern.

    The experience

    Time is in hours, unless stated else. It is written in first-person perspective for your convienence. There is no connection between the I in the story and the I, I am. The I in the story was a nameless guy in the bus.
    Retrospective

    This is not something to mess with. He normally is careful with strong stimulants, because they will do damage to his body. But this one seemed body neutral. So he pushed it almost over the edge by carelessly trying it out. There is some euphoria, but isn't much. Coffee seems to bring it up a bit, but along comes the nasty speediness. This doesn't mean it doesn't affect ones mind. Swim saw his self-criticisms be a lot lower than normal. Also subtle feelings of grandiosity seemed to sneak in with this one. It isn't euphoria free.

    It is a good stimulant for a long work day. One dosage seems to last for about 15 hours, but after an redose the effects can easily be pushed further. The stimulation itself is really clean. No body load. Just mental stimulation. The long duration is a pity. It would be a great stimulant if the half-life was reduced to 6 hours or even 4.
     
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  3. ThirdEyeFloond

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    Dosage: 300 mg, two servings pr day around 8am and 4pm.
    Route: Orally, SWIM had the substance in pressed 100mg tablets and never thought of using alternative routes of administration as getting a rush or other advantages of more effective routes was never SWIMs purpose.
    Duration: 10-12 hours, SWIM would have trouble sleeping up to 12 hours after the last dose (on 300mg), but started experiencing mental fatigue after 7-8 hours of somewhat intense studying so SWIM would usualy redose at this point.

    SWIM has tested around 10g of modafinil over a period of about 5 weeks little some years ago. He used it in a stressfull period with plenty of studying todo for exams at the university. SWIM took one dose oraly in the morning and another in the afternoon, usually not later than 4pm to avoid having it interfering too much with SWIMs sleeping pattern.
    He took 100mg at a time for the first two days, but didn't notice much effect so he increased it to 200 and later to 300mg pr dosing. 300mg seemed to be right for SWIM, he noticed a definate but subtle stimulating effect helping him concentrate and staying focused on his books and notes for long periods of time.
    The was no rush, edgines, and other 'tweaked' feelings and SWIMs tendency to go multitasking extreme (ending up with tons of unfinished projects) like he does on meth was not a problem with modafinil either. It just gives SWIM energy in abundance, but it's not in a 'push-y' way, like one can remain lazy on modafinil but if one puts his mind on a task he can easily overcome completing it, to SWIM it's sort of similar to the effects of ginseng root though modafinil is longerlasting, and ginseng root seems to mess more with SWIMs heart rate. But SWIM doesn't feel drugged when taking it, which is a great advantage for studying, as he did have some trouble with paranoid thoughts the times he was on meth at the university and it resembles more the clearheadedness one feels after doing neti / nose rinsing than any other stimulant SWIM has tried.
    SWIM mainly used modafinil for work/studying but on one occation he used it recreationally, staying awake for 2.5 days, redosing with 50-100mg whenever SWIM started to feel tired. He was at a minimal tech / d'n'b event dancing and modafinil was a great aid in this aswell. SWIM has been a stimulant whore for years earlier on but tries not to push his body too much over its limits these days so he decided not to continue the experiment longer than 2,5 days. He was very tired and exhausted at this point, more so than he is on meth or regular amphetamine at this point, it's rare SWIM is found on the dancefloor though so this was a factor aswell, but it seems like it doesn't hide or override the bodys signals as much as the amphetamines do, which SWIM thinks is a good thing, also he has no trouble eating normally either. Even though his body felt tired his mind was still clear, and when studying for long periods his cognitive capabilities doesn't seem to diminish as rapidly as when the hours passes on meth.
    Actually SWIM has a hard time comming up with something negative about this substance to balance this experience rapport other than the cost. SWIM tried it before generic versions was out, and this stuff was damn expensive for a poor student, and was the primary reason why SWIM discontinued his use. Also if one is expecting the euphoria or 'tweaked-ness' of meth/amph one might be greatly disapointed. This is more a tool for getting work done than a partydrug ISO. SWIM should probably mention he is a male and weighs about 75kg, and has used his share of stimulants in the past so he may have some chronical psychological tolerance for these substances meaning a 300mg may be a bit too much for some, and SWIM would suggest anyone starting out with 50 or 100mg to see what fits SWIY.
     
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  4. Pino

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    ^^^ It is funny swiy can still be lazy on it. The bus guy just can't on the substance. But he is a very sensitive person with stimulants. That the body still can be tired is confirmed by him. The signals aren't overridden, but they are a bit stretched. Some else, who isn't pino and isn't the bus guy has a small tolerance to stimulants and found 100 mg satisfying and 200 mg enough. So the tolerance thing holds there too. 50-100 mg is a good starters dose. Of course sensible people take first a nibble of the pill to test it and wait three days. The bus guy should have done that too.
     
  5. ThirdEyeFloond

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    Hehe, maybe that has more to do with SWIMs lazy S.O.B. syndrome than the substance itself. :D
     
  6. Jacco

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    Modafinil... how heavenly. Swim had 33 doses, a long long time ago in a galaxy far away, and is now out.

    Here's a typical experience for swim on modafinil:
    Dosage: 200mg.
    Route: oral.
    Duration: 9-10 hours.
    Taken with: caffeine (150mg oral), occasionally amphetamine (15mg oral)

    Modafinil made swim smart, pure and simple. He leaped to conclusions more quickly, was super-productive, was able to think and be the self he was on his peak (though admittedly taking it on the SATs made his grades go down for that session, he attributes this to the caffeine crash.)

    However, on weekends, idle weekends, when swim had nothing to do, modafinil would rip his mind apart. Once swim sat in a library, kept changing his mind about what to do, tore books off the shelves... felt really OC, depressed, anxious. This made swim use it rarely.

    During the peak, swim would feel really "into" things. He'd be engaged in anything he saw or did.. watching movies was great and his attention span was infinite.

    Great substance, swim is quite interested in using adrafinil as a legal replacement (sadly modafinil is US Schedule IV).
     
  7. lothario

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    dosage: 200mg
    route:
     
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    lets try last post again...
    dose: 200mg
    route: oral
    time: a.m.

    SWIM dependent on amphetamines for many years. Stopped cold with one 200mg modafinil taken in morning each day. First night was restless sleep. One week and no crash, no depression, no craving. Unbelievable.
     
  9. Raw edge

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    Swim has tried the above in dosages ranging from approx 200mg-600mg. Initial repsonse was simply increased alertness reduced feelings of fatigue. After increasing her dosage she noticed high levels of anxiety and strangely somnolence. Swim tried a lower dose a few time subsequent to the previously mentioned experience. After this she noticed that anxiety was still a fequent feature with Modafinil even at lower dosage. Swim has not taken any modafini in approx 3 months. She has no particular desire to either as it offers her no recreational benefit.
     
  10. plur

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    i have been taking Modafinil for some time one repetive starting and stoping of
    my daliy dose(or just the fact i have bin taking it for awile ) has changed effect to more more of a mild amphetamine type high(- the the hand shakes and such but the ephora is there) rather then just the pick me it just gave me
    in the begianing. secondly a little bit of caffine potencates those effects
     
  11. snapper

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    100mg with ephedrine and caffeine was really edgy and unpleasant- really enhanced the ephedrine body load.
    However, 100 mg with 3 g thai kratom made the kratom energy and euphoria much better. SWIM sees potential in this combo but is going slowly due to some bad peripheral effects when combining kratom with other stimulants. Will report higher dosing regimens soon.
    Modafinil alone is nothing special at the 100 mg level so far. Barely past placebo.
     
  12. samm2

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    Swim likes a combo of adrafinil 300mg.+ modafinil 100mg. to keep swim alert and awake for 8-10 hours or so,liberally adding caffiene drinks all day.(doesn't bother swim at all but swim has a good tolerance for caffiene)if swim don't add caffiene then swim get bad headache)
    Also added are 600mg. DL-phenyalanine or L-Tyrosine to keep norepi levels topped up so depletion is prevented.
    Swim considers this nonrecreational too,more of a motivator/antidepressant thing.
     
  13. KillroyMindless

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    I dont know how to describe this.


    body weight & gender - 115 , Male

    dose taken - 400mgs

    route of administration - oral

    Taken With - Lamictal(daily not rec) About 3/4 a bottle of jack daniels before swallowed finnished bottle afterward

    Setting: in what environment it was taken. A bedroom

    duration of main effects 10 hours
    main effects well i was already wasted as hell when i took em. but (mentaly increased heart rate) my pulse was fine. Slow motion. Alot of motivation to move and yell. then 100-155 mins latter after going througg a ride of street lights and traacers. mild delusions, anxiuos, confusion, mild euphoria, 2 hrs latter when people went to sleep heavy delusions, hallucenations(auditorial, and visual) overwealming and unreasonable fear. Mania started to set in. after calming exercises television i was floating no thoughts went through my head. i coulndt sleep and really just bordom. mabey it would be better without the liquor.
    side effects - described aboaver
    after effects - next day around 5 am i woke up to holy shit its all gone. you drank all the whiskey and the drinking buddy drank all the tequila... the fridge was pushed in from where swim fell on it. couldnt get to a beer when wanted it. and (HOLY FUCK THE WHOLE BOTTLE)that was after not taking more than six shots of alchahol for almost a year.
    rating of the experience - ups and downs
    addictive qualities / abuse potential it has addictive quallities dont know how addicive yet, doesnt seem to badly addictive tho. Abuse potential almost as high as ritilin
    any other valuable information
     
  14. natevines

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    I don't get why anyone would combine Modafinil with Adrafinil. The two aren't synergistic, adrafinil is simply metabolized into modafinil.
    Why the combination?
     
  15. Pino

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    ^^ It probably is a way to control the length of the experience. Because adrafinil is metabolized into modafinil, it probably kicks in later.

    Swim's data:

    24 years old,
    80 kg,
    1.83 m,
    male

    Retrospective:

    Modafinil is a medium stimulant with little to no effects on the body - swim isn't sure about that, there is little known about the long term effects of modafinil- for swim. Only his urine gets a little bit smelly. It isn't the holy grail the media seems to see in it, but it is a good help for work. It makes swim's memory somewhat better, but the primary effect is that it makes swim to focus for a long time. It also seems to reduce stress a bit. (Swim measured a couple of time a blood pressure drop from 130/80 to 115/70). It can make one very anxious for some reason.

    It has addictive properties:
    1. It ables one to work longer.
    2. After 2 or 3 days consequent use (200 mg a day, 7 hours sleep normal amounts of food), some kind of euphoria starts to kick in.
    3. There will develop tolerance.
    However it isn't too heavy. Quit drinking coffee is more difficult. It doesn't replace sleep. Keeping awake 3 days on this stuff won't happen. At least not with swim. But swim can easily sleep on moderate dosages of stimulants.

    Side effects:

    Headache, euphoria, dry mouth, increased libido, strange smelling urine, bad quality of sleep, tremors, jaw clenching, heightened aggressiveness, anxiousness.

    Combinations:

    200 mg modafinil + caffeine (normal amount for the busdriver, 2 cups of coffee. He is a coffee addict.): Pleasant vibe, easy and fast thinking. Able to solve sudokus a lot quicker. The bus driver becomes more self reassured in conversations and is able to focus more than 16 hours. Sleep quality is ok. (bp: 130/80)

    200 mg modafinil + too much caffeine (4 cups of coffee): Anxiousness and some hypertension kicks in here. (bp: 140/93) Concentration is less than optimal in this region.

    400 mg modafinil + normal caffeine: Nice euphoria, but can also turn into anxiousness.

    200 mg modafinil + weed: The busdriver seems to be less affected by weed when he is on modafinil. Same feeling. Not synergistic.

    200mg modafinil + alcohol: The busdrivers alcohol tolerance seems to go up (this isn't true of course). Euphoria seems to be enhanced by alcohol.

    200 mg modafinil + gbl: Gbl overpowers modafinil.

    200 mg modafinil + nicotine: Seems to be hard on the body, bp keeps within limits (bp: 145/96, is a little bit too high, but this is what nicotine does to the body), but the combination is not all too pleasant. It feels really speeding and stressed out.

    200 mg modafinil + n2o: Less effect of the N2O then normal. Memory seems to keep intact and swim had trouble merging deeper into the experience. It all felt kinda boring.

    200 mg modafinil + cocaine (30 mg): Felt quite good, euphoria was enhanced. But swim doesn't think this is a good idea for some reason.
     
  16. Pino

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    ^^ It probably is a way to control the length of the experience. Because adrafinil is metabolized into modafinil, it probably kicks in later.

    Swim's data:

    24 years old,
    80 kg,
    1.83 m,
    male

    Retrospective:

    Modafinil is a medium stimulant with little to no effects on the body - swim isn't sure about that, there is little known about the long term effects of modafinil- for swim. Only his urine gets a little bit smelly. It isn't the holy grail the media seems to see in it, but it is a good help for work. It makes swim's memory somewhat better, but the primary effect is that it makes swim to focus for a long time. It also seems to reduce stress a bit. (Swim measured a couple of time a blood pressure drop from 130/80 to 115/70). It can make one very anxious for some reason.

    It has addictive properties:
    1. It ables one to work longer.
    2. After 2 or 3 days consequent use (200 mg a day, 7 hours sleep normal amounts of food), some kind of euphoria starts to kick in.
    3. There will develop tolerance.
    However it isn't too heavy. Quit drinking coffee is more difficult. It doesn't replace sleep. Keeping awake 3 days on this stuff won't happen. At least not with swim. But swim can easily sleep on moderate dosages of stimulants.

    Side effects:

    Headache, euphoria, dry mouth, increased libido, strange smelling urine, bad quality of sleep, tremors, jaw clenching, heightened aggressiveness, anxiousness.

    Combinations:

    200 mg modafinil + caffeine (normal amount for the busdriver, 2 cups of coffee. He is a coffee addict.): Pleasant vibe, easy and fast thinking. Able to solve sudokus a lot quicker. The bus driver becomes more self reassured in conversations and is able to focus more than 16 hours. Sleep quality is ok. (bp: 130/80)

    200 mg modafinil + too much caffeine (4 cups of coffee): Anxiousness and some hypertension kicks in here. (bp: 140/93) Concentration is less than optimal in this region.

    400 mg modafinil + normal caffeine: Nice euphoria, but can also turn into anxiousness.

    200 mg modafinil + weed: The busdriver seems to be less affected by weed when he is on modafinil. Same feeling. Not synergistic.

    200mg modafinil + alcohol: The busdrivers alcohol tolerance seems to go up (this isn't true of course). Euphoria seems to be enhanced by alcohol.

    200 mg modafinil + gbl: Gbl overpowers modafinil.

    200 mg modafinil + nicotine: Seems to be hard on the body, bp keeps within limits (bp: 145/96, is a little bit too high, but this is what nicotine does to the body), but the combination is not all too pleasant. It feels really speeding and stressed out.

    200 mg modafinil + n2o: Less effect of the N2O then normal. Memory seems to keep intact and swim had trouble merging deeper into the experience. It all felt kinda boring.

    200 mg modafinil + cocaine (30 mg): Felt quite good, euphoria was enhanced. But swim doesn't think this is a good idea for some reason.
     
  17. snapper

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    When SWIM takes over 200 mg of modafinil, SWIM gets this really distinctive kind of nausea that pretty much outweighs the minor beneficial effects it might have on alertness. The nausea is not overwhelming but is very unpleasant. SWIM has pretty much dropped this one as an option...
     
  18. Lehendakari

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    Modafinil thumbs up!

    If any SWIY is sick of adderal-ritalin for concentration and work, he might be interested in modafinil. It feels like mental fog has disappeared, concentration rises, yet no comedown nor side effects.

    To describe the effects on Modafinil baboon would say it fells like the first half an hour after taking methylphenidate or amphetamine. You are plain awake cause first effects are taking place, however, this stage last very long, and you can keep a good level of stimulation, without peaking into distracting euphoria or experience a bad comedown, or bad side effects like insomnia.

    It is not going to make you non-stop-manic working, but it definitely works by aporting you energy.

    Dose 200 mg 75 Kg male, empty stomag.

    Baboon comented drug is in no way whatsoever addictive or recreational
     
  19. 0utrider

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    Re: Modafinil thumbs up!

    should be moved to nootropic maybe

    SWIM agrees, and found out he can even easily sleep if wanted (at least if taken 100mgs) and also he could just relax (and nobody would ever be able to tell he "took" somethign), yet on the other hand it can make him active and clear-minded and productive and its easier to socialize. quite a substance in swims opinion
     
  20. Raw edge

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    Re: Modafinil thumbs up!

    Swim reported anxiety probs from modafinil at various doses upto 300mg. Maybe he shouls try it again.