Discussion in 'Morphine' started by Alfa, Jun 6, 2006.
Please post your morphine experiences here.
The following is an exert taken from SWIFantasian's Journal
My strongest experience that i remember lies here with morphine. A strong agonist opiate present in the opium poppy. Given as one of a few final options to treat severe pain.
Onset Oral - 30minutes - 1 hour
Peak Oral - 5 hours
Comedown Oral - 1 hour
Total duration Oral - 7 hours
Onset IV - Immediate
Peak IV - 4 hours
Comedown IV - 30 minutes
Total duration IV - 4 hours 30 minutes
Onset IM - 10 minutes
Peak IM - 5 hours
Comedown IM - 1 hour
Total duration IM - 6hours 10 minutes
5mg - An effect similar to that of 100mg of codeine, with all the same effects, sedation and euphoria however seem cleaner somehow. a slight hangover the next day but nothing severe
10mg - Strong opiate effects, euphoria felt, strong sedation with a difficulty to move around without aid. Urinary retention present at this dosage making urination impossible for 24 hours. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 1 days of feeling sick, tired and rough. However post usage problems are copable.
20mg - Intense opiate effects - Euphoria significant, very strong sedation and strong nausea. Urinary retention and constapation relatively severe. A very relaxed yet intense feeling. Moving is neigh on impossible due to degree of sedation and dizziness when standing. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough Similar to that if flu.
25 mg - Same as above with more pronounced nausea, to some degree i feel like a ceiling effect has been reached again. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough however at 25 mg this is more pronounced but doesnt last longer.
10mg - Similar to that of oral dosages except a much faster onset of 10 minutes and more sedation was felt however this may be due to setting.
IV dosagesnausea wasnt present in IV dosages due to the co-administration of an anti-emetic like cyclizine or buccastem)
2mg - A slight rush for a hundreth of a second felt but no after effects or sedation or euphoria.
10mg - Significant euphoria and sedation similar to that of 10mg orally however the feeling seems much more sedative. There is a pleasant rush on administration that in the future i will grow to crave. This is one of the most pleasant yet dangerous highs i've ever experience and lead to my entrance to the drug world.
20mg - Very intense rush, possibly due to the nurse who administered it's lack of experience. Sedative effect significant euphoria significant however I do note at this time that the effects are too intense for an enjoyable experience. It feels less like he's got into a euphoria boat and more like he's been hit by a euphoria bus.
On a side note I have also experience pethadine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone and diamorphine however he isnt satisfied with his reports for them to be considered accurate at this point.
More experiences are welcome!
I will share an experience from last new years. he insufflated 30 mg of morphine from a crushed ms contin pill around 6 pm. within about 10 minutes he had a mild euphoria and felt more talkative than normal, and this was accompanied by a feeling of heaviness or rather, that the earth's gravity was pulling harder on him than it normally does. he often gets this feeling from certain opiates, notably morphine, codeine, and hydrocodone. he was enjoying talking with his friends about the evening's plans, and was also content to watch a bit of television with them, ordinarily swim hates television, but they had a great time making fun of the commercials and discussing the program that was on.
at around 9 pm, swim and friends decided to go to some parties, and I chewedand swallowed another 60 mg of morphine. I had a high tolerance, so he knew that this was within his limits, but does not reccomend such high doses for people new to opiates. I was not drinking, but felt a great love and empathy with people who were, and definitely felt like all the people with him at the party were on the same level as he was. he found it was effortless to make jokes that anyone present could enjoy, and ended up having a couple of profound and important conversations which strengthened his friendships with a couple of people. during this time, he continued to have a feeling of heaviness, and would sit down whenever possible. it wasnt particularly bothersome to continue standing, but he simply preferred to sit.
the oral morphine effects continued with strength until about 1 am. I was smoking more cigarettes than usual, which is something he notices happens often on opiates. he also found himself often reflecting on his current life situation; and kept reiterating to himself that he had some of the best friends anyone could ask for, which is a statement he truly believes while sober. during this experience it seemed particularly pronounced, however. the high during this time was at no point overwhelming, but subtle and almost in the background, in that while he was very happy and sociable, he did not think about how high he was. in fact, he felt almost sober and in control of his faculties, but simply in a very amazing mood. the happiness and introspection he was having reminded him of the feeling of MDMA, but not as powerful as MDMA, in that people unaware that he had taken morphine did not believe he had taken anything until he told them about the ms contin. the effects began to subside around 2 am, but he was still talkative after this time and did not suffer depression or annoyance upon the comedown.
so, the total dosage was 90 mg (careful about taking this if not experienced with opiates), the duration was around 8 hours from time of first ingestion, with redosing around the 3 hour mark. the comedown lasted around an hour and was very mild. swim found the morphine enjoyable in a social setting, and did not impair his judgment, and he was able to think quite clearly on it and came to some realizations about how great his friends are, which carried on into sobriety after that.
although the experience was fun, swim must caution that morphine is potentially a dangerous drug with a low safety margin, and that tolerance and addiction are a very real threat with this substance, in part because it is easy to carry on with normal activities and socialize while under its influence.
I have tried rectal administration several times. The onset lasts for about 45 min., and then SWIP hit the plateau, and it was almost better the IVing it. SWIM always takes his morphine this way because: 1 of the low bioavailibity when it comes to oral. 2 He hates needles and he cant even find a vein. 3 You waste almost as much morphine by snorting it than oral.
actually, snorting it does have slightly better bioavailability, but as swiy's post in the bioavailability thread says (and swiy's report confirms!) rectal is more efficient. maybe You should contemplate writing a thread on how to do proper rectal administration of opiates so that other members can learn how to do so safely?
Good idea, im gonna start writing it now
Thank you! Please post it in the general opiates forum, and when I start doing the "opiate basics" thread I will include it there.
well this is how is went for SWIM using morphine sulfate D 30mg
15mg inssuflated...waited 5mins, then inssuflated 15mg in other nostril...head/nose kinda hurts feels stuffy
10mins and still nothing...so SWIM decides to take 15mg more, then 15mg more
20min later I feel a little bit of a body high, barley noticeable. nose still hurts
SWIM decides to go smoke a bowl of some ak47 since this will do more then
this morphine bs
perhaps I will have to try it rectally...
2hours later I am feeling the efects and is enjoying them...mild to medium head and body high, very relaxing, no pain whatsoever,
AW: Morphine experiences
I recently got his hands on some 30mg instand release morphine sulphate tabs. SWIM read that the bioavailability when used orally is really poor so SWIM planed to insufflate them.
By the way I got some opiate tolerance from using codeine a lot.
SWIM crushed one with a glas and seperated the powder in 3 equal parts as I have also read that 10mg I.V. some sort of standard dose for really hard pain.
A few minutes after I snorted one of the parts I got quite talkative and feelt something smoothly going on. As that didn't seem enough SWIM insufflated another third making it 20mg.
Almost instantly there was this intense warm feeling rushing through my body, everything seemed just wonderfull and I was constantly grinning and feeling happy, really happy. SWIM never feelt that comfortable.
I was watching a horror movie at that time, but instead of being scared or somehow spooked, he only admired the movie in general and especially how adorable the vampires were.
After about 2 hours the happieness seemed to fade away, so I took the last third of the first tab. This intense feeling returned immediately. Thats when SWIM completely lost the feeling of time, so I can't tell you when SWIM decided to crush to other pill.
This time SWIM divided the powder only in two parts, taking one of them instantly. I got really wasted - in the good way - feeling as high as he never have been just being seemed so wonderfull. SWIM feelt like a mixture of having smoked a lot of pot and at the same time the euphoria from xtc.
Just before going to bed I snorted the remaining powder. By the way SWIM stayed at his friends appartment and his "bed" was a sleeping bag on the naked and hard floor. But SWIM feelt as comfortable as he would be lying in a 1st class bed - like sleeping on heavenly clouds.
A thing that was quite odd I couldn't remember falling at sleep at all. It was like dreaming while awake, seeing pictures just like a movie, but I could open his eyes anytime he wanted - after closing them the dream was continiuing where it stopped.
Although I couldn't remember having just a minute of sleep, the next day there were no hangover or any tiredness.
Morphine made SWIM certainly feel as good as he never felt before, but at the same time he realised why it's so addictive. SWIM really had to practically restrain himself to not get some more pills - for several days. It's not that you get addicted the first time you use it, it just feels so great you want to have it anytime anywhere.
set & settings: was a teenager, had never had any drugs yet (not even marijuana), at the hospital in emergency to be operated, 2 finger tips looking just as marmelade (more like a half peeled banana to be exact), not sure these would ever look as they used to be ever again, very anxious, very painful to my fingers, shocked, , doesn't like the idea of getting hacked about with scalpels, how could I have smashed up my body in such a bad way, so stupid, feeling so bad about what's happening to me, slightly out of it at the same time because had lost quite some blood.
route of administration: morphine injected i.v. (left arm vein)
onset: within a few 5-6 seconds at most
effect: 3-4 seconds after injection I feel a strange taste in my mouth (very slightly nauseating chemical taste, already pleasurable taste) and a warm vibe spreading in my all body, thta's quite nice, immediatly released my anxiety completely, didn't care about my finger tips anymore, pain has disappeared, almost happy about beeing here on the operating table, I know there's something quite wrong but well I'm into a quite pleasurable sensation right now, "don't worry man things are just fine" I thought, great feeling of well beeing.
Then general anaesthesia (2 minute later) so cannot tell how was the rest of the trip (as I waked up from the anaesthesia on the next day).
conclusion: the come up and the two next minutes (which is all I could experience before falling asleep from the following anaesthesia) was extremely pleasurable (especially if we consider the bad state of mind I was in just before beein injected). I'm glad about this experience as I just never inject drugs, so that was the one and only i.v. experience to me, and it felt quite nice (well to be honnest, that was more than "nice", that was just a peaceful and relaxed complete well beeing to the body and mind).
No doubt morpphine injected i.v. can make you quite addicted within a few trials (couldn't say how much, but pretty fast that's fopr sure) cause it just feels really good.
well, I was back in the hospital years later (bad cut, very deep) and had a second i.v. experience (last one), but this time they wouldn't tell me what I was injected, not sure about it, not general anaethesia this time so I could enjoy the all trip, was feeling so good and so fucked up that I found myself asking "what is this marvelous drug?", smiling to one of the surgeons in the middle of the operation (which she didn't seem to appreciate much so she didn't answered my 'innocent' question).
This was a creazy one, could have been morphine mixed with something else (such as ghb maybe) cause I was completly out of it, the happiness and well beeing of morphine plus the "out of it" feeling of a strong anaesthetic, that was like "wow that's so good mgrrmffrr", almost delirious from the effect, meaning a true waked dream, yeah that's it, I was awake, more or less conscious of what was happening around me but I was dreaming at the same time, completely in my warm body sensations, allowing my mind to flow in complete euphoria into a completely confused and drunkish moment...blissful experience!
...so when they say, "do you want a general anaesthesia?", meaning that it's not absolutely necessary, just say "no, but that hurts a lot" and you'll get the tremendous "Dr Feel GOOd" special cocktail!
Ok, so I tried a little morphine for the first time just for kicks..low dose, nothing special..but here's an account of it anyway:
12:30 am : I took one 30 mg grey pill on a fairly empty stomach. She had smoked good bud with a friend at around 11:30, and figured she'd be close to sobered up by the time the morphine kicked in.
1:30 am : I started to itch quite a bit, she was also getting tired and bored with the computer so she went to lie down and watch TV.
2:00 am : She wasn't feeling the euphoria she was expecting, but then again it was only 30 mg. However, she did feel extremely cozy and content with just laying down. She had no interest in watching TV anymore so she turned it off and closed her eyes. Resting felt great, she was warm and comfortable and she remembers smiling for apparently no reason as she drifted off. SWIM supposes this was a very *mild* sense of euphoria she was looking for.
5:45 am : Yeah..next thing she knew, she woke up at this time. She said it was literally like closing her eyes and opening them only to find a few hours had passed. She didn't realize she had fallen asleep. It was a very dreamless sleep. She got up to walk around and was surprised to find that her vision was really weird..her head didn't feel right, but it was not an uncomfortable feeling..hard to describe, kinda like her head and vision was "floaty" and "swimmy". Went back to bed, because laying down felt the best.
8:00 am : Woke up again, vision and head still feeling the same. Laying down still felt good, so she went back to bed.
10:50 am : Woke up AGAIN..and she is still awake, and still having weird head feelings...again, it's not unpleasant, just very strange to her, and her vision is unfocused but not hard to deal with.
Yeah, that's it. Nothing special but the lazy cozy feeling was great, it made sleeping a blast Also, SWIM experienced no nausea (maybe because of smoking beforehand?). However, she woke up with a bad headache and is still itching. For clarification..the strange floaty head feeling seems to stay separate from the headache..SWIM can feel both at the same time if that makes sense.
I am one of those who is afraid of injections, so he sticks to snorting drugs like Morphine. I went through a hefty Morphine phase where he did at least 240mg over a short period of a month or so, and most of the experiences weren't too wonderful. Then again, the dosages were limited to 30mg crushed and inhaled at each time. After a short while of laying on SWIM's bed, the effects became somewhat noticeable. The slight dizziness, stumbling, random, incoherent thoughts, and inability to fully function in normal society. After taking this all in, SWIM then had to go watch a movie with his parents in the living room. This movie was
b) I don't really remember it
Then, finally, SWIM headed off to bed to sleep off what was left of his buzz.
swim recently tried morphine, first time ever. I had 1 30mg CR pill said abg on 1 side and 30 on the other. swim bit in half and took 1 half but dint chew it hoping because of lack of tolerance 30 mins later small buzz, barely anything, took other half, about 45 mins later decent buzz but never really any peak, swim dint like it to much left swim feeling kinda sick. Is 30 mg CR alot or alittle? should I have taken like 60?
Was it a time release capsule? If so, you need to peel off the coating if you want to actually feel the pronounced effects of it.
yea it was time release, does swim have to take the coating off to get the effect at all, or does taking it off just make it not time release thus leaving it on would give a longer high, but require more?
Here is my first morphine experience which took place yesterday. BTW, I am 5'11" and 125lbs.
5:30pm: Acquired 4 Morphine Sulfate 15mg pills.
6:00pm: After finding out 15mg is a safe dose for a first time, SWIM ingests his first pill with a glass of ice water. SWIM honestly doesn't know what to expect at this point. I am a little nervous, since he's never done morphine, and has a relatively low opiate tolerance. The only other opiates he's had were opium, hydrocodone, and codeine. He had only smoked a little bit of opium mixed with cannabis once, and enjoyed it. The most hydrocodone he's taken in one day was 120mg, and that is after he'd been doing them for a while to develop a tolerance. The most codeine he's had at a time has been 120mg from a cough syrup.
The only opiates I have had all summer were 30mg of hydrocodone 3 days ago, so his tolerance was pretty low he assumed, so he didn't know what to expect from 15mg of morphine.
6:30pm: SWIM traded a friend one of the pills for a gram of good cannabis. So I have two pills left.
7:00pm: Exactly one hour after taking the first pill, SWIM expected he'd be feeling something. But nothing. His pain was still there, and he was feeling no traditional opiate effects. Looking in the mirror, he wasn't even experiencing miosis. All the other opiates I have done, have kicked in by one hour, so I think he didn't take enough, but decides to wait a little longer to see if it kicks in.
7:30pm: An hour and a half after taking the first pill I was still not feeling any opiate effects. He had been smoking cannabis as well, since he always smokes cannabis with opiates as he finds the synergy between the two to be amazing. But, this time all he felt was the cannabis. Still no opiate. So he took another 15mg making it a total of 30mg of morphine sulfate consumed so far.
8:00pm: Feeling relaxed and tired from the cannabis I have been smoking, but the only opiate effect he can feel is slight respiratory depression. Nothing else. None of his pain has gone away either. Looking in the mirror, his pupils are still pretty normal, only very slight miosis.
8:30-9:00pm:SWIM continues to smoke his cannabis, as it normally enhances opiate effects, but still just feels mainly stoned from the weed. Around 9 he notices he is experiencing moderate respiratory depression, and a slight feeling of butterflies in his stomach but nothing else. No traditional opiate high. He looks in the mirror and sees that he's finally experiencing miosis. His pupils are very small. This makes me wonder if he is at his peak, or if the effects will get any stronger. He only has one pill left, so wonders if he should take it since he figures one won't be enough for another day. He just doesn't want to take too much and get too fucked up, but he at least wants to feel the effects. He decides to wait to see if the effects get any better, or taper down before taking his last pill.
9:20pm: SWIM smokes a bowl of cannabis and lays on his couch to watch TV. He realizes he is becoming high from the morphine. He is feeling the traditional opiate effects. Not as intense and overwhelming as his hydrocodone experiences, but it's just starting so he doesn't know if it will get better. He feels the traditional "warm and fuzzy" feeling and the "hug from within", etc...
9:45: I am feeling nice, a mild opiate high, not as strong as he is used to with hydrocodone, but he heard morphine takes longer to kick in fully, and lasts longer, so he really doesn't know if he should take another pill, because he doesn't want to take it if he won't need to. He decides to watch TV and chill, and see if the effects increase.
10:00pm: I feel like he can handle another pill, since the effects still have increased, although he is feeling nice. He takes another pill with a glass of water.
10:05pm: I am still feeling nice from the first two pills, and his friend arrives. They each smoke a Djarum Black clove cigarette before smoking cannabis and talking. I am in an extremely talkative mood. Similar to how he gets on cocaine. He was alert, not tired, just in a good talkative mood. He really wasn't paying attention to any of the effects he was feeling, I was just totally involved in the conversation he was having.
12:00am:SWIM noticed that he was feeling mildly fucked up. Like he gets from hydrocodone, but not nearly as intense. SWIM and his friend continue to talk.
1:00am: my friend left, so SWIM decided to go to bed, to enjoy the effects as he drifted off to sleep. SWIM noticed the traditional CEV/lucid dreaming, but quickly fell asleep. He woke up 12 hours later, without any ill effects such as wanting to vomit. I am glad he played it safe last night ,as it was his first experience with morphine and did not know what to expect. SWIM now realizes he could probably have taken all 3 of the pills at once, and should have, to get the effect he desired. But all in all, I had anice evening.
Now that I know what to expect he plans on repeating the experiencing tonight, except taking 60mg all at once, in order to hopefully get a effect more similar to the intense hydrocodone highs.
How can SWIM do that?
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