Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms (Psilocybe & Amanita)' started by jisk8, Dec 29, 2004.
How psylocibin pills can be made?
I can't think of any other method than the one Sandoz used in the fifties and sixties when such tablets were available; mix psilocybin with a filler and a binder and press the mix into pills.
you can powder dried psylocibian mushrooms and stuff em into gelcaps. i have a feeling you don't wanna go through the taste, this method would take care of that.
I've personally done exactly what hacnslash said. I took some
dried mushrooms and put them in a coffee grinder, which reduced them to
a fine powder. I had some old expired echinacea capsules, so I
emptied them out and refilled them with the dried mushroom
powder. It takes a bit of practice to stuff the gelcaps full of
powder, but once you get the hang of it you can make tons of
them. I've read about people getting empty "00" size gelatin
capsules and filling them, but I'm not sure where you'd find empty
capsules like that. I'm sure some health food stores might carry
something like that. Otherwise, just get some cheap herbal caps
and empty them out. I've also seen some kits available that have
a nice little holder for the empty capsules. This seems to make
filling them very easy.
I ended up with a bunch of 400mg mushrooms capsules. I took 5 of
them (2 grams of dried mushrooms) and I had a fun time. I think
the fact that they are powdered helps them get absorbed better by your
body. They worked great, and there was no awful taste. It's
definitely a recommended method.
you're going to have reduced effect if you put it into a gell caps. you absorb much of the psylocibin in your mouth
that sucks considering i barely chew them at all and just swallow them like pills, next time im going to mash the hell out of them
how will psylocibin be absorbed into the mouth if the gelatin capsule is never chewed, permitting that no mushroom is exposed?
Well once it hits youre stomach and the acids eat away through the cap... well you can figure it out from there
I use 500Mg capsules and usually take between 4 and 6. is there anyway you can just extract the active ingredients because even if you just swallow the capsules the smell normally comes back up my throat later on and i can taste them.
There is the alcohol method described. Basiclly take 190-200 proof
alcohol, add to the mushies until it covers just a bit over the top of
them, and allow the mushies to soak in it for about 24 hours shaking it
everyonce in a while. Then strain out the mushies and that will be a
consentrated form of the psiociblyn(sp) I leive. Please correct me if I
empty capsules can be bought at heatlh food stores in bags that carry a hundred
Some psilo is absored in the mouth, however, predominately, its ingestion that your looking for. The only problem with gel caps is the amount of time it takes to come on. Gel caps are perfect for those who cannot tolerate the taste. I get 00 at my local organic food store.
with larger doses, do you guys notice less discomfort compared to just eating the mushrooms?
I was under the impression gel caps would work quite well and could
possibly decrease the amount of time before effects would be
seen. The mushrooms in a capsule are ground up very finely, and
should be absorbed very quickly by the stomach. The gel caps are
just a thin layer of gelatin, so I assume they would break down pretty
quick, dumping mushroom dust into the stomach. Or is my theory
If you put the mushroom powder in gel caps try not to pack it in too tight. The tighter you pack it the harder time you stomach will have to break it apart. Even when the gel cap disolves you are left with a tighly packed powder. Try putting on in a glass of warm water to see what happens, you can even add lemon juice to simulate stomach acid. Heck you can even drink your experiment when your done.
Disagree completely. Your stomach is an incredibly powerful muscle. It does a great job at mixing stuff up and breaking it down.
If you touched stomach acid, it would burn your skin. It is
counterintuitive - your stomach is protected by a special mucous layer.
Lemon juice is no comparison to stomach acid. Try putting the gelcap in
a bag of warm bleach, then mashing it around with your hands for a good
indicator of it's life in your stomach.
I agree. I had gelcaps before and reported no significant "delay" of the onset of effects.
Ok if we are getting picky now. think about my statement for a second. "The tighter you pack it the harder time you stomach will have to break it apart." I am not saying your stomach cannot handle it only that the harder you pack the denser it gets which makes it take longer to break up. It is a matter of density.
RealLemon lemon juice has a ph of 3.5 and is very acidic.Stomach acid is hydrochloric acid at a pH of 1.Bleach however is a base and has a ph of 12.6.
So if one were to compare stomach acid to bleach vs lemon juice I think that bleach is the one that would not compare. At least lemon juice IS an acid. I am sure that for this experiment more people will have lemon juice in their home than hydrochloric acid. Can't drink your experiment afterwards with bleachwater.
I was only saying that tightly packed caps take a little bit longer to come on because of the density, no where in my post did I claim it did not work.
Dualpower if you are going to pick apart someone else's post at least your info should be correct. Thank you.
Oral Psilocybin Dosages
2 - 4 mg
4 - 8 mg
8 - 20 mg
20 + mg
poweredbyhate, i agree with your theory...
first of all very very little psilocybin is absorbed in the mouth. The point of chewing them for a while is so they are ground up and the psilocybin can be more easily absorbed in your stomach. If you grind it up and put it in a gelcap it should be absorbed quickly and well. No person (without the aid of some pill making machine) can pack the powder in a gelcap so tightly that it would take a long time to break apart. Its not like its going to be as compressed as a vitamin, which takes hours to digest and absorb.
I've read that Using menthol works way better than alcohol during extraction, because unless you have 100% alchohl then some of the psylosybin will be converted to psylocin which is very unstable and breaks down quikly.
And people the extraxtion is very easy and would take about a day.You would need a scale to measure down to miligrams though very hard to eyeball 15 miligrams just think of it taking 500 miligrams of psylocybin in 1 pill.