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Experiences - my boyfriend and his friend and their crazy fucking head games

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine' started by spokathryn, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. spokathryn

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    Ok I know what everyone is going to say but here's the thing, 1. I've been through meth psychosis and this is not it. I'm not sleep or nutrient deprived and I'm well hydrated. 2. This never happens anywhere else or around anyone else 3. I've done meth many times and for exTended periods of time without anything like this happening and 4. I truly believe that my boyfriend has the means and the motive to pull thus off.
    Here's what's been going on, whenever I'm at my boyfriends place whether high or not, rested or not, I can hear people talking shit outside, he lives in a trailer and there are many holes in the walls and places that people could hide, he keeps trying too tell me I'm hearing things and that I'm going through meth psychosis, but he looks at where the nose it's coming from and sometimes I catch him whispering out the windows, he also loses his temper on me alot. The other night we were messing around and he asked if he could you're me up, i said yeah and pretty him, then he was like do you trust me and i said yes, he looked me dead in the eyes and said it was the biggest mistake I've ever made, i nearly had a heart attack right then and made him untie me. Last night we went too the casino and he just disappeared, then people started following me around saying I'm a bitch and a slut, he got mad at me for being upset, then we sat at this slot machine and he won, said he was going to cash out and I went to look for him, I overheard a conversation then that fits this whole situation between him and his friends who were there, they were the ones following me. He keeps saying there's no reason anyone would do those things but I honestly believe that he is doing this on purpose......I just slept last night and out started up again this morning......I really think they are messing with me for amusement.
     
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  2. Moving Pictures

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    Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take your word for it that you're not suffering psychosis. Why are you hanging out with this guy? You let him (for whatever reason) tie you to a chair and his response is trusting him is "the biggest mistake" you've ever made and he's serious? He's purposely trying to trip you out by talking through the walls? I dunno, if that's true than he's just cruel. Find someone else who doesn't do shit like that and date them instead.
     
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  3. liveinbkk

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    Firstly, let me just say that if it is psychosis you wouldn't necessarily be aware of that, so do keep that in mind. On the other hand, he may very well be doing all of what you say, or some of it.

    My advice would be to find someone who you trust, who would have no interest in screwing with you and let this person in on what is going on and ask this person to evaluate on your behalf.

    You should be prepared to accept that you may have read more into his actions than was intended, or if it is as you interpret it, to get the hell out of that relationship.
     
  4. eyetigerstorm

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    They could be messing with you, which is bullshit. See that crap that people pull has always been obvious to me, ever since my friend fooled me the first time, I'll explain. I had the vector torch sitting right between me and my friend, that's where i put it, but i turned around it was gone. I said, "It was right there", what the hell happened to it, my friend was trying to convince me that i was crazy and that i must of misplaced it somewhere else. So then to humor him i walked outside my room and closed my door almost all the way but I left it a crack. I then watched as my friend pulled the torch out from his pocket and placed it where i had it originally. I called him on it, and he let out the most devious laughs or smirks i'd ever heard. So i know this may not make some sense, but although the drug does fuck up your mind, the fucking with your mind is deliberate. So when people percieve to use trigger words or bullshit like that around you to try and feel like they have control over you. Tell them to fuck off or bag on them back.

    BTW, although the voices thing never happened to me, the voice problem really happened a lot to my friend. He was say that there's people outside whispering that they are going to kill him or beat him up. So i would do the brotherly thing a bring a flashlight with me outside and we'd walk around the house to make sure that in fact there aren't any assholes that want to kick my friends ass. I was trying to put his mind at ease so he wouldn't have a bad high.

    Here's the problem though: If you're high, anything out of the ordinary that you pick up on or bring up(whether they are whispering words to screw with you) or not, could be blamed on the drug or you being in an altered state of mind. (THATS THEIR DEFENSE), to make you less credible, although hindsight is still 20/20.

    Ialso personally think that people do screw with people, intentionally, because they're just evil or cruel, and so the user accused misjudges even their own recallecation or perception of events taking place. There's also unintentionally, if they are possess by the drug, which happens more time then not.

    hope this helped.
     
  5. AboveDaInfluence

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    Okay if he was talking all this shit on you, wouldnt he just break up with you and if he was going to just ditch you at the casino why did he invite you in the first place?
     
  6. Simplicity7

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    This is a topic that really strikes a chord with me. I was in a relationship of almost 5 years with a guy who I thought was genuine. I guess I should've known things would end up on the rocks since we actually met at a "party"
    It was around the second year of us being together that I started feeling uneasy about his intentions. We would use every once in a while, making it a rule that we would never do it unless we both were in agreence. There would be moments when I truly felt like he would mess with my mind because he would act really suspicious. Looking in different directions, making gestures that were out of character. There was an incident where I could swear he sneaked someone in to drive me insane by making noises and whisper things. The only reason why I could say it wasn't psychosis is because he tricked me Into walking outside with him, closing the door behind us. Then, I hear the alarm go off from someone opening the door... Someone obviously was sneaking out the front.
    It was from then on that I never felt at ease with him. It was a Constant fear of him making me feel crazy or stupid. I eventually found out he was sneaking behind my back and using. He was also posting on sites looking for pnp (party and play) with other guys. The relationship dissipated shortly after.
    The point I'm trying to make is that you should always trust your intuition. That gut feeling is there for a reason. And even if he wasn't trying to mess with you, you obviously don't feel at ease around him, so why stay? A relationship is based on trust and that is not the case in your relationship. Do your best to leave if u can. It is not mentally healthy.
     
  7. RichInMethadonia

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    What your boyfriend is doing is called GASLIGHTING and is a form of psychological abuse........ Its used by people who are SOCIOPATHS (people with antisocial personality disorder) or people with other personality disorders to try to make you seem crazy......

    He sounds like a sociopath to me....... ESPECIALLY when you said he loses his temper on you a lot and did this to you-

    "The other night we were messing around and he asked if he could you're me up, i said yeah and pretty him, then he was like do you trust me and i said yes, he looked me dead in the eyes and said it was the biggest mistake I've ever made, i nearly had a heart attack right then and made him untie me. "

    Type in gaslighting on google and read it on Wikipedia and it is the EXACT THING HE IS DOING TO YOU!!!!!!

    Also, type in profile of a sociopath when you are done reading that and tell me if he fits the profile........ This should be interesting.......

    I tried to post the links for you but it wouldn't let me :(

    RichInMethadonia added 1 Minutes and 47 Seconds later...

    Sounds like the same thing happened to you Simplicity, check out Gaslighting on Wikipedia and tell me what you think........
     
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  8. Simplicity7

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    Rich, that definitely sounds like he would be the type to use these tactics.
    A little background on him: he has a psychology major. Has always been a habitual liar. Has been taken from home and sent overseas as a sort of "rehab".
    I wouldn't put it past him. The crazy thing is that just recently, I was at a party and saw some of our old friends, and they all told me they thought I was the crazy one in the relationship but now that we have separated, he's gone spiriling down to rock bottom and I have tried my best to keep a normal lifestyle.
    Sociopath fits the description perfectly.
     
  9. KitKat84

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    I don't understand why you would stay with him? Do you like being treated like a piece of shit? Have some more respect for yourself and tell this loser to fk off
     
  10. liveinbkk

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    It's not easy to get out of any relationship. Anyone in these situations has my sympathy. I've never had that, but I did have an ex who was extremely controlling and used to take me to places where I could not get away so that he could leave in his car and I would be totally dependent. It ended when I hiked through the woods and hitched a ride the hell away. He was the best lover I ever had and I still miss him and I know that his actions were a product of his own demons...but, fuck that.

    Simplicity7, you know what you need to do. You'll be okay.
     
  11. Simplicity7

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    Liveinbkk
    It's been done. Him n I don't speak any longer. I cut him out of my life completely, along with all the people he associated with. It's a never-ending cycle if u don't break it. And that's what I did. He tried to get back with me a year later but I was so over it. Made me a stronger person. And I advice anyone who is a situation like that to do the same. It starts with takin control of your own life and not apologizing for it. :)
    And like you said, I miss him very much and still care for him, but I live myself more to know that that relationship was self destructive.
     
  12. spokathryn

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    I don't believe it's him doing it........as of the other day anyways, I'm convinced that it's a form of gangstalking, he does believe I'm paranoid but I don't, my husband was involved in some activities which led to his arrest sometime in the not so distant past, I meet my boyfriends shortly thereafter, I knew that the cops were fucked up but I didn't know they could do these things until I started doing some research, I came to my home and everything just stopped, my friend that I live with is an electronics/programming pro and runs software to ensure that nobody could be recording here or using v2k technology around our home. The thing is that the other day I was followed by many people until I finally gave up on running and just sat down against the side of this building, they were standing there saying cruel things to me and mocking and i could hear someone commenting on how messed up it was to do that to someone.......I mean I was freaking out and hoping at that point that someone would call the police, in ant other situation like that someone would have........it's just really got me thinking and the thing is I've NEVER had a single delusion or other than very small ones while on actual hallucinogens, I know I sound crazy and believe whatever you want but there are other factors involved here......during my husbands arrest I refused to allow them to search me without probable cause, they had it and still cut me loose, why? Not only that even my boyfriend who is my biggest skeptic is starting to wonder if the feds r following us.
     
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  13. Moving Pictures

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    You need to speak about these things with a medical professional. That's all we can tell you. I'm sorry but I believe you are delusional and suffering psychosis. I'm not a doctor but if it looks like a duck, well you know the rest...
     
  14. The Cats Dream

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    Agreed MP, this is starting to sound like untreated schizophrenia. Spokathryn, PLEASE go see a doctor and tell him/her about the people who are tormenting you, and PLEASE follow his/her advice...
     
  15. Lrs721

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    here's the thing..
    you say you are worried the FEDS or cops are following you and are afraid to type in certain details of what is going on BUTTTTTTTTtt-- you choose to access a website where drug use is openly discussed and post your own experiences using drugs from any device that most likely can get traced back to you (or the owner of said device)
    that does not make any sense.
    some possible explanations or solutions:

    -if you are concerned, truly concerned- ask yourself why anyone who has been following you-especially cops or feds like you stated- would overlook all the illegal activity they've seen you engage in or seen others engage in while watching you. seriously, theyre not looking after you and if they are, what have you done to make them feel the need to watch you for at least a couple of days now, waste money, and let possible drug charges slip through the cracks?
    - your boyfriend is an asshole, hes fucking with you and it's clear why- because it probably amuses him to see you act like this, as sick as that may be. Try not to date anyone you met because of drugs WHILE your husband is in jail- your head is not in the right place and as much as you are done with your husband, your vulnerable and likely to fall for assholes (like the ones who want to mess with you and have you freaking out in public.)
    - get some sleep, lay off the drugs for a couple of days and if the feeling that you are being watched has not subsided (see if its still there while you are not engaging or at risk for being charged with any sort of illegal activity) THEN go talk to a therapist and a very very very close friend or relative who you trust with this sort of information. A therapist to get you through it and maybe find the deeper issue if there is one. a close friend or relative, just in case something does happen and you were right, someone knows about it and this won't get swept under the rug.


    but really, if you are that paranoid that you are being watched- why are you documenting your fears on a drug related website? you're not doing yourself any favors and are not going to find the help you need here. no one has been in your situation nor ever will be in the exact situation youre in and from what you have described, your situation is not one that can be helped without knowing you personally and knowing the people involved in it as well. sorry.

    i hope you get some peace in this though, because it does sound like a nightmare to be in this situation.
     
  16. Potter

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    There is no such thing as "Gangstalking". You are severely mentally ill, along with all those people on YouTube.

    For those of you who have not had the fortune to run across the newest tin-foil hat lunacy sweeping teh InterTubze, Gangstalking is the belief that there is a VAST conspiracy of agents who spend their entire lives attempting to slightly inconvenience "target individuals". Too many people online at the grocery, Gang Stalking! See four red cars on the road, Gang Stalking. Invisible rays shooting out of your neighbors car, Gang Stalking. Crow in a field sitting there pecking at some corn, GANG STALKING!!! Anything and everything becomes "signals" and "harassment".

    Look up this guy on YouTube to see what this is all about: stealthwavef22raptor


    This is all crazy gibberish. Shared delusions. You need to seek real and immediate psychiatric help before someone gets hurt or killed. Stop the meth, throw it all out, don't fricken touch it ever again. Get yourself clean.

    Keep this up and you're life is going to end up a sad pathetic mess.
     
  17. RichInMethadonia

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    LOL OMG Thank you for posting about that guy who thinks he is being "Gangstalked"!!!! LOL! These people are NUTS!!!! It is truly sad and funny at the same time.........

    Here are some good videos to watch on Youtube By name:

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    LMAO!!! Thank you for posting that info about this so-called "gangstalking" LOL these people are truly NUTS! It's funny and kinda sad at the same time.....

    Here are some hilarious ones to watch on youtube by name since I cant post links:

    1. "Gangstalked by gangstalkers who enjoy gangstalking"

    2. "Walmart Gangstalker part 1" and "Walmart Gangstalker part 2" (That guy who made these is frighteningly mentally ill.......

    3. "Special place in hell perp of the week" LOL you have to read the video description to know what this nut is talking about......

    I have only watched a few but OH MAN I never knew people actually thought this stuff existed! Crazy!

    RichInMethadonia added 4 Minutes and 18 Seconds later...

    Oops sorry for the "double post" guys...... My computer flickered whenever I tried to post that........

    Actually, now that I think about it, it was probably one of the gangstalkers trying to stop me from posting this!!!! LOLOLOL ;)

    RichInMethadonia added 28 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

    OMG sorry to post so many times but I found a HILARIOUS MUST SEE youtube video of a guy who thinks he is being gangstalked and sprayed with pesticides in walmart!!!! LOL you can clearly see he is delusional and nothing is being sprayed...... It seems like once somebody is convinced of "gangstalkers" they think almost every other person is one!!!!

    The video on youtube is called

    "Walmart Gangstalking-Sprays People With Pesticides With Special Cart"

    THIS IS A MUST SEE PEOPLE, YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR ASSES OFF!!!!!
     
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  18. soso

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    I dont think this is funny its just sad, i feel sorry for them, and laughing about it on this thread is cuntish, some of these people are a danger to themselves and others.
     
  19. RichInMethadonia

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    Sorry if you think Iam being "cuntish" Soso, I don't mean to be but if you watch these videos, especially the last one, you will see these people are delusional for no reason over normal everyday things....... I don't think all of these are cases of shizoophrenia or mental illness either, but most probably are.....

    Also, the OP who made this thread may actually be being made fun of by her boyfriends friends, but I highly doubt gangstalking.......

    Sorry if I hurt anybodies feelings but come on people...........
     
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    Thats kinda funny. Like once, or during one high episode. Thanks for the tips on driving u nuts, ill try some of those angles, i especially liked the tied up insanity question/response, my gf loves being tied up, and imthink that question would freak her out and scare her, but like i said, just the one time!
     
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