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Drug info - Mylan Fentanyl Patch

Discussion in 'Fentanyl' started by maximumquake, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. maximumquake

    maximumquake Newbie

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    Before someone says use the search engine; I had and has read almost every post related to this subject. No one has posted specifically about this. I was just wondering what other swiys thought about the best way to use a Mylan fentanyl patch compared to sublingual or transdermal. I have been using the mylan patch by holding it under swims tongue or by between swims cheek and gum. But swim looked at the bioavability and saw that it is 50% sublingual and 92% transdermal. I have never tried using the patch as designed(wearing the patch). In the threads I saw, swims had different opinons on this issue. Some swims believed holding a patch under swims tongue was the best way to go and other swims believed it was a waste and the best method to use a patch was to use it as designed(put it on the skin). I would of posted a poll if I had the privelages but I dont so, swim just wondered what others swims who have used the mylan patch what they thought was the best way to use the mylan type patch. Because one of swims buddies just got a mylan type patch and holding it under swims buddies tongue doesnt seem to give the same effect as before(swims tolerance has risen) since the bioavability sublingual is 50% and transdermal is 92% it seems to swim that wearing the patch is the best method to go. But the thing about swims buddy is swims buddy doesnt like being dopped out 24/7 and would not want to wear a patch for 3 days. What do other swims out there think, is it best the sublingual route or the transdermal route. I was searching the forum and discovered a topic of how to extract the fentanyl from the patch. I know the extracted fentanyl can be smoked(My buddy advices noone to smoke fentanyl since it is very potent and hard to judge the dosage; it is an easy way to not wake up), but I am not to thrilled to smoke fentanyl and loves insullifation and was curious could the extarcted fentanyl be sniffed? The post swim read said the extracted fentanyl was sometimes like gel, having varying consistencies. My friends, buddies, dog after doing an extensive search on this forum and the internet, was not able to find the bioavabilty of insullifated and smoked fentanyl and my friends, buddies, dog was wondering do any swiys out there know the bioavability of insullifated and smoked fantnayl or a rough estimate. Swim friends, buddies, dog is looking forward to and appreciates any responses. Also swims budies, friends, dog is not sure where this thread should of been posted and does apologize if it is in the wrong category; please move if needed.
     
  2. mrsyavez55

    mrsyavez55 Newbie

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    Well the Mylan patch is pretty unabusable. Yeah it's better to just wear the thing and since you can't exact the dose it would be dangerous even if you did extract the fentanyl. I have done a couple thing though. SWIM put a small piece of a 59mcg patch in 3ccs of water. Put it in the microwave for 45 seconds or until it boils for a little bit(Mylan is heat sensitive and the hotter it is the more it releases). Then let it sit out until it came to room temp, usually about an hour or so. SWIM then loaded it into a needle, (Leaving thepiece of the patch) and IV'd it. It was a pretty decent hit and felt comparable to the stuff you get in the hospital. I did get pretty nauseous afterwards but it worked well. SWIM only did it 3 times cause I am having health problems and now, after being in the hospital, I am scared to do anything of the sort. SO be careful. Not able to know how big of a hit your getting so I say why not just wear it and heat it up on the skin with a blow dryer to get a bit more o fit released?
     
  3. Probing Tranquility

    Probing Tranquility Newbie

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    I had on 3 of the 25mcg/h patches for a day and just felt really high all day. I went to sleep with them on, woke up, still high, no problem. I took a hot shower and almost immediatly after getting out I was so fucked up his friends were worried that he was going to od so they made him take the patches off, I was nodding out hard for around the next seven hours. My guess is that the hot shower caused the fentanyl to diffuse into his body very rappidly.
     
  4. mrsyavez55

    mrsyavez55 Newbie

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    Yep the heat causes more of the drug to be released. I didn't realize I put 59mcg patch. THat was a misprint. It was a 50mcg. Wow SWIM wishes SWIM reacted that way. I have such a high tolerance that even a 50mcg patch doesn't do that to SWIM
     
  5. Matt The Funk

    Matt The Funk Silver Member

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    You should try reading more because it has been answered, and it seems to be more opinion than anything. SWIM loves the mylan patches sublingually and thinks they work great that way. But wearing them isn't too bad either, just not enough dose at once for SWIM.
     
  6. Probing Tranquility

    Probing Tranquility Newbie

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    swim never got to try fentanyl when his tolerance was at its peak, and hasent seen it seen it around since. Supposedly though swim might get a 100mcg but it wont be a mylan one.
     
  7. Psych0naut

    Psych0naut Platinum Member

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    Although I do not know Mylan patches, he does have plenty of experience with Durogesic patches, which are apparently very simmilar, they both contain their Fentanyl in a plastic matrix. SWIM totally disagrees about Durogesic patches being unabusable, one just has to know what the proper way to abuse them is, and I do know it.

    To use them sublingually(under the tongue) is obviously easy, even more so than using gel-based Fentanyl patches. They can be cut into pieces, making dosing much more accurate then squeezing out a glob of gel. I have also IV'ed Durogesic patches on several occasions, though the first time he did it was almost his last, and SWIM strongly disadvises on injecting such an insanely potent and dangerous drug as Fentanyl. For those who are stubborn on trying it though, I will post the method for IV'ing plastic matrix based Fentanyl patches like Durogesic patches.

    First of all, prepair an acid solution in advance, preferrably a hydrochloric acid solution. One will need a 5ml syringe for this, to accurately dose the acid and water. If using 10% acid, fill a shot glass with 5ml saline water or otherwise boiled tap water, and 5ml acid. When using 37% acid, fill the shot glass with ~1.3ml of acid and ~8.7ml saline or boiled tap water. Swirl the shot glass a bit to mix the acid solution. Now proceed to cut the intended dose worth of patch, and place it in a glass test tube or a spoon. Add 1ml of saline or boiled tap water to the piece of patch in the test tube or spoon, and carefully add one drop of pre-made acid solution with a pipette(eye dropper bottles oftain have a pipette in their cap). Heat the solution a couple of times with a lighter for short intervals, making shure the solution does not boil. Drop a ball of cotton in the test tube/spoon and suck up the solution with a syringe. It is now ready to be injected.

    Durogesic patches contain Fentanyl base instead of Fentanyl citrate, so it doesn't dissolve in water very well, that's why a tiny bit of acid is needed(remember, the dose of Fentanyl to be extracted is in the range of micrograms, so only a minute amount of acid is needed to turn it into a water soluble Fentanyl salt). The adhesive in the patch is very non-polar and doesn't dissolve in the water, so there is no risk of injecting any dissolved plastics or anything like that, you're only end up with a Fentanyl solution in water, nothing else. Like I've said earlier on in this thread though, if you do are determined to inject Fentanyl from a Durogesic patch, BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL, FENTANYL IS A KILLER!
     
  8. Solinari

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    As pointed out, injecting fentanyl is extremely dangerous but if someone is going to do it then all i can do is URGE them not to do it alone under any circumstances. Make sure whoever it is done with WILL call for help if required, i can't believe some people will leave someone to die rather than call for help but it does happen, all the time.
     
  9. Lisa J

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    I would like to know if it has to be hydrochloric acid or if citric would work instead?
     
  10. Psych0naut

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    Citric or ascorbinic acid could be used as well. Just like with the hydrochloric acid, make shure to use only a tiny bit, a teaspoon dissolved in a normal glass(250ml) half filled with water is sufficient in replacing the pre-made solution SWIM described in his post. So when using a pre-made solution of citric/ascorbinic acid, it can be used instead, just follow the rest of the procedure as if it was a solution of hydrochloric acid. To be shure, use two pipette drops of this solution, as both are much less potent acids as hydrochloric acid. When using citric acid, it yields Fentanyl citrate, the same form it is used in by the pharmaceutical industry when used in salt form(in ampoules for injection, or Fentanyl lollipops/sublingual tablets).
     
  11. Lisa J

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    Thanks SWIpsych0naut, I am well used to smoking fent but will be VERY careful if she decides to go down the IV route, she's climbing the walls at the moment as she can't use heroin due to a very probable drug test on Tuesday, fents not a problem because she's prescribed it.
     
  12. Walter Mitty

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    I ate a portion of patch that looked like white sticky tape. I recall feeling great. Several days later I had to be taken to the ER due to an accumulation of ammonia in my system. And to add to the disaster, I'm on Antabuse.
    I'm usually very careful. Anyone else eat them?