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Experiences - Mylan: Unacceptable Clonazepam Quality

Discussion in 'Benzodiazepines' started by fizzle, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. fizzle

    fizzle Silver Member

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    Swim does not intend to bring up the generic vs brand debate. That is not the issue here.

    Swim had been getting Teva brand 0.5mg clonazepam for a few years until he moved and he had to switch to a different pharmacy. He specifically asked for the brand name Klonopin due to the fact that he had gotten his script filled at this pharmacy chain before and found that the quality was crap (it was Mylan at that time too). The lady assured him it was the brand name right at the counter while he was picking it up so Swim did not think much of it.

    When he got back to his car he opened up the bag and found out he got the worthless Mylan brand! He figured he might as well try it out just in case things had changed. Wrong! This Mylan clonazepam might as well be a placebo. For the record, Swim has tried Teva, Eon, Caraco, and Roche (K-Cuts) clonazepam and found them all to be significantly better.

    To those who have yet to try this brand, think twice before doing so. To those who have tried it, what do you think?
     
  2. shittypeople

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    I can most def agree with this. After taking teva clonazepam 1mg bid, then switching to mylan I got terrible withdrawal symptoms. And then when I went to the pharmacist to request a different brand, she said that she honestly heard that the mylan brand was shit from a couple of other people too.
     
  3. fizzle

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    Swim has used over 30 pills out of his 60 in just 8 days which definitely says something about the quality of these pills. That amounts to over 2mg per day of Mylan clonazepam (Klonopin) whereas he rarely ever needs to exceed 1mg with Teva or any other brand.

    So, Swim told his doc about the poor quality and even brought in his bottle of unused pills. He just straight up said that this brand is horrible and the pharmacy really screwed him over by giving him generic when he asked for brand name.

    Anyway, his doc was super cool and just wrote him another script for the brand name 30ct 1mg Klonopin (no refills) so the pharmacy couldn't screw up (damn it's expensive, but well worth it if it's the only option). The doc let him keep his unused pills (the script had more refills on it) which was kind of surprising. Not like Swim is excited since they are so horrible. So when Swim moves at the end of the month he can transfer that script to another pharmacy chain that has Teva or anything but Mylan.

    He is not sure if he can mention pharmacies on here, but this one really bites. However back in his hometown the same pharmacy chain is fine, at least in terms of service and general knowledge. Go figure. The pharmacists here don't know what the hell they are talking about.

    Ha, on another funny note, when Swim went to pick up his script today, they gave him 60ct 0.5mg Klonopin instead of 30ct 1mg Klonopin that his doc prescribed. Now he knows it is basically the same thing, but come on. He even had to wait a day for them to get the name brand in since they were out of stock. What can ya do?
     
  4. plopplop2000

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    That is pretty strange, not that i doubt it concerning clonazepam, but i sometimes get Tetrazepam prescribed for my back problems (as a muscle relaxer) and my pharmacy always gives my Mylan tetrazepam 50mg lately (tetrazepam is available only in 50mg pill form) and having had all possible brands (myolastan, panos etc. ...) of that product, i'd rate the mylan tetrazepam pretty high if not highest.
    It would be a good thing to let them know, not that it might change much, but you never know.

    [EDIT]: then again, i just found that: http://infinonymous.blogspot.com/2009/08/coury-give-drug-dealers-bad-name.html
     
  5. benzophile

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    Listen guys, mylan is horrible. It is made in W.V. Most docs, and all pharmacists will tell you this, Stay the fuck away from CVS. I dont know if it has to do with more filler less drug, but especially alprazolam, wether it be 2mg pie bars or 1mg pie footballs, are mainly garbage and tend to make you more sleepy than anything. If swim had a dollar for everytime someone has complained he'd by this damn website out!
     
  6. Evil Weevil

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    Thanks for the heads up on the Mylan generic.

    SWIM gets the TEVA brand now from the pharmacy. SWIM used to get the Caraco generic which SWIM liked better...it dissolved under the tongue much faster.
     
  7. darkbreed

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    It is interesting to note the differences between generics and brands, SWIM has found both times where generics are MORE potent and faster acting than the original brand name, while at other times it is opposite as described in this thread. This goes for a large range of benzos which is what SWIM mainly uses. As far as clonazepam goes, his favorites are Roche's Rivotril (he believes that is what's called Klonopin in the states? ) and Clonogin (can't remember the producer but I believe it to be a local argentinian one).
     
  8. RaoulDuke32

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    swim uses activis and is sticking by it cause it works. hes heard only good things about it. mostly good things about teva, which he was considering getting. thank god he read this thread about mylan being shit as about half of pharmacies carry it.
    activis all the way!
     
  9. fizzle

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    Swim just got a new script for 30ct 1mg and got it filled at a small, local pharmacy. This place carries Actavis which he had not really heard much about but was willing to give it a shot. He is glad to hear that it is good stuff. He has not yet tried it though.

    Swim has a little collection going on of all the different kinds of clonazepam he has had this year (in their original bottles as to not run into any legal trouble). He tries to save about 2mg per script so that he can do a comparative analysis at some point later on when he has no tolerance (which of course he will write a report about for you guys).

    Right now he has brand name 0.5mg Klonopins, 0.5mg Mylans, both 0.5mg and 1mg Tevas, and 1mg Actavis'.

    Next time he will try and find Caraco, Barr, Watson, Apotex, or Sandoz. He had Sandoz a long time ago and remembers them as being of solid quality, but he would like to try them again.

    Has anyone come across Barr, Watson, or Apotex clonazepam? They seem to be the rare brands in terms of this benzo. Barr and Watson have never disappointed him when it came to other meds so he assumes the same would hold true for clonazepam.
     
  10. Moving Pictures

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    I've used several different brands of clonazepam. I don't know the company who makes them, but I've had 1 mg pills that were white, green, yellow, and blue and I could not tell the difference between any of them. That's just me though.

    Edit: I was prescribed all of those, so I'm not swimming.
     
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  11. RaoulDuke32

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    from all swim has heard, tevas are pretty much the standard and they are fine. hes pretty sure when he got them on the black market (shh) thats what they were. he was going to fill his script with those but like he said the activis he got were top notch. pretty sure theyre the best geneezy on the market for k pins.

    fizzle- of all those the caraco is the only ones ive heard of, basically ppl mention them being about like tevas. decent and reliable. its kind of funny the collection youve got going. i guess since you got this bottle of shit mylans you're hoping to stumble onto some brand that is unusually potent? dont count on it! but good luck my friend!

    all i know is that about half the pharmacies in my area carry mylan clonazapam. so beware!
     
  12. fizzle

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    Swim ALWAYS asks the pharmacist what generic brand they carry before even thinking about handing them the script, so there is no chance in hell he will ever get Mylan again. FDA approved my ass! The only thing they can be approved for is pissing you off, in which case they work wonderfully.
     
  13. sparkling_star

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    SWIM's doctor prescribed her clonazepam and got the Mylan brand. Years ago, SWIM used to take the same medication. Before .5mg knocked her out; after 1 mg and not using this for years, SWIM is only a bit tired and somewhat relaxed. SWIM is upset that she has a month before she'll get to figure out where to find any other brand but this one.
     
  14. Kalendren

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    My dog gets Qualitest clonazepam. It works well for long term anxiety. Shit for panic attacks, though. The dog has had Mylan lorazepam, and he agrees that Mylan is awful. Its almost like taking nothing at all.
     
  15. brandon561

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    Wow, swims really happy to see this thread swim thought he was crazy because the mylan Clonazepam he was getting wasnt giving him any effect at all. Swim has also tried tried alprazolam 2mg by Mylan which Wal-Mart sells and has found those to be horrible also. Swim had to take 8mg of the mylan to feel any desired effect and usually only take 2 to 3mg's of any other generic brand. Swim will ask his doctor next time swim sees him to ask about the quality of mylan.
     
  16. Moving Pictures

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    I take the 1 mg Actavis clonazepam (yellow R/34) and they work fine. I've also had the qualitist and teva 1 mgs and they worked fine. The only Mylan I've ever had were the 2 mgs and they worked just fine also. They felt like 2 mgs and I doubt it was just in my head.

    Honestly, I can't tell the difference between any of the generic but I've never taken Mylan 1 mg so I can't say. I've taken plenty of mylan lorazepam and they work fine, so I don't know...

    For anyone interested, here is a link to all the pics of all the different brands and strengths of clonazepam http://www.drugs.com/clonazepam-images.html

    Edit, I take that back, the 2 mgs I had were sandoz, not Mylan. Maybe Mylan clonazepam is crap, I haven't had them, afaIk.

    Edit 2, all of these were prescribed to me so don't give me bad rep for s/i
     
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  17. chooch

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    Swim takes mylans, with a mouthful of water swims 2mg's melt in swims mouth. Swim has been reading some dubious things about mylan and quality control. Swim might have a chat with pharmacist and see if pharmacist might be able to get another brand of generic ("brand of generic" ... that makes swim laugh :)).

    Swim was pondering whether binders might be a cause for poor efficacy? Swim got a "brand" that was very hard and swim had to crunch them to break them down in swims mouth.
     
  18. salgoud

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    Buddy believes it is a "Quality Control" problem with Mylan, especially those plants located in Puerto Rico.

    The FDA does not scrutize the Puerto Rico plants well enough. Recently, a GSK plant in PR was inspected. They found wrong drug amounts in medications, workers using their bare hands to get all the finished drug out of the Vat, mislabled bottles with the wrong drug in it.

    Mylan Clonazepam is low grade and Buddy doesn't think binders would inhibit potency if melted or chewed in the mouth. It is important to note that there are always a few to many ways to synthesize a final product. Most active drugs are Chiral, and if the right isomers aren't isolated, Clonazepam generic may be of lower grade than Klonopin the Brand.

    Buddy has always thought workers were skimming the drugs, thus making them less potent. An example is Buddy's white 30mg generic temazepam. I'm sure the brand name Restoril would be different (stronger). Maybe Buddy's just paranoid, but something is not Kosher at generic plants both in the U.S. and especially in Puerto Rico.

    salgoud
     
  19. Kalendren

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    Kal got a refill on his clonazepam and thought he would try a different pharmacy, maybe get a better generic than Qualitest. Just his luck, it was MYLAN! The Mylan clonazepam is awful, Kal agrees for sure. He will be calling pharmacies in the future asking what generics they carry. Most usually are very accomodating when he asks. The quality of Kal's Mylan is unacceptable. He had to use his leftover Teva (which also sucks, but is better than Mylan) diazepam from a few months ago to get any anxiety relief. Mylan is almost like taking nothing. Kal doesn't know why the pharmacies are allowed to get away with selling people products that don't do anything for the condition.
     
  20. chooch

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    Swim learned a new word, CHIRAL and chirality. Thanks someone who isn't Salgoud :).

    Swim's pet bearded lizard named pacman chomped 5mg's of mylan and pacman felt no relief. Swim has a psychological assessment tomorrow. Swim might do as a swiy suggested above and bring in the bottle and ask for a script for another "generi-brand".

    Maybe Swiy's can list some "generi-brands" that have been effective? Mylan being at the bottom of everyone's list, which generi-brands would have a better efficacy?