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Injecting - needle tip broke off while injecting in the femoral

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by dontpanik, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. dontpanik

    dontpanik Newbie

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    My wife recently broke off the needle tip on a 29 gauge hypodermic needle while shooting herself up with heroin in her femoral. After it happened some of her friends tried to get it out, they called the hospital and said there was nothing they could do about it because of how close it was to an artery. When she came home I took her to the hospital and a doctor verified it was there with an x-ray and attempted to remove it. He must of tried for a minute and then gave up which was not too surprising with all the stares we got while walking from the waiting room to the ER. Intravenous drug is not too popular in this area and I think they felt no sympathy for anyone who would have a problem because of that sort of drug use.

    Anyhow he said it will work it's way out. My wife said that "it's surgical steel, it will not work its way out." Her and I are both worried that it will make its way into the artery and travel to her heart.

    Does anyone have any ideas of what to do or experiences with this sort of thing? We have insurance and a follow up with her usual doctor but I'm not too sure if she will get the right kind of care as a non drug user would.
     
  2. Dionne

    Dionne Newbie

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    Gosh that is awful! I understand how you feel about how other people view heroin addiction. I wish I could help.
    Perhaps the nurse at your local methadone clinic could be more helpful? Or some other clinic of that type of thing.
    Is your wife in pain?
    Kel
     
  3. dontpanik

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    She's is not in pain, she is more worried than anything. I talked to a nurse at a clinic here and she is going to be going there thursday. The nurse seemed genuinely concerned. So hopefully it goes better than the hospital we went to.
     
  4. Dionne

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    Yes I also would be worried. I am glad that nurse was helpful, and didn't judge. Please let us know how it goes:thumbsup:
     
  5. Spucky

    Spucky Palladium Member

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    AW: needle tip broke off while injecting in the femoral

    Don`t let her move to much
    Go to a specialist ASAP.
    Say it`s happen by a accident

    How big is that piece?
    And where it`s now located?

    Imo. it will be trapped!
     
  6. fnord

    fnord Newbie

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    Later in life your body will build tissue around the needle. Creating a lump of scar tissue. This may cause muscular problems. Other than that, it should be fine. I highly doubt it's in your vein. And it's not going to just float down your vein like a stream to organs. It's metal, it can't bend around the twists and turns of veins. Besides, veins go straight to your heart. Arteries go away from the heart to the organs. The needle would naturally work it's way out of the vein. It has sharp edges and pressure forcing it out of the vein. The fact that muscles move alot may cause some damage from the needle tips but i think it would be minuscule. If the doctor was capable of remvoving or felt t posed a threat im surethey would of told you regardless fo your drug hobby. I cant remember the name of the psych condition but some people have been found to have hundreds of needles and pins shoved in there legs during postmortem exams,The serial killer albert fish was one of those people,he was found with 28 needles in his groin and anus area.
     
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    Roscco Silver Member

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    This has happened to two people SWIM knows, both years ago with no adverse consequences.... yet. Wouldn't worry too much. Unlikey to ever come to much.
     
  8. Helene

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    Just checking, she has stopped using her groin now, hasn't she? Cos the last thing you wanna be doing is disturbing it in any way.

    H
     
  9. dontpanik

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    Yeah she stopped using all together. Was getting in too much trouble with the law. She has got an appointment in the clinic in a few hours i will tell how it goes.
     
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    OKay, good luck with that, hope it goes well.

    H
     
  11. missparkles

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    Well we just got back from the hospital again. This time we were referenced to a different hospital by her primary doctor because there was a team of surgeons working last night. After 4 hours of waiting in the ER we were finally seemed by a few doctors. They used this X-ray machine that allowed them to see the needle in real time but could not remove it from her with out risking doing damage to an artery. They then gave her a cat scan to make sure it wasn't near any vessels and it turned out that it is safely stuck in a muscle and is not going anywhere. Besides the waiting room the staff there seemed very geniune and willing to help (it might have helped that she was fully covered with insurance.

    Aside having a needle stuck in here for the rest of her life and a few stiches from the surgery she will be just fine. Thanks for all of your concerns.
     
  13. tomazco

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    Ok, neither you nor her will want to attempt this, but i would try finding or making the strongest magnet/electromagnet available, and jiggle it upwards directly above the hole, vertical to where it went in, in the hope that the magnet's strength, twinned with the sharpness of the snapped back of the needle, and the softness of the flesh, will allow the needle to rip through the flesh back out again.

    You need a REALLY strong magnet, and you need to do it quick, before scar tissue forms. And, if it works, my god will it hurt!
    But at least there will be no further danger....


    Try this sort of thing:
    http://www.first4magnets.com/f4999n...-the-world-north-pole-on-counterbore-71-p.asp
     
  14. Helene

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    Needles are made of surgical steel. Which is not magnetic.

    H
     
  15. fnord

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    Thats a really bad idea,good thought but horribly bad idea,what if the electro magnet causes more damage then the needle would? I'm sure theres a good reason why the doctors decided to leave it in there..... I mean i have a tiny screw stuck in my ear from when i was a kid but i dont go around trying to bulid electro magnets to rip my eardrum out!
     
  16. missparkles

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    Any do it yourself surgery is dangerous and should never be attempted, we're not talking about a splinter in the finger here.
    Glad it all worked out for the OPs wife though.
    Take care.
    Sparkles.:vibes:
     
  17. tomazco

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    Are you sure? I didn't know that.
    And yes, it is a gross idea :eek:
     
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    Sorry man, but this is very poor advice to give out. And you have a commercial link in the post.
     
  19. tomazco

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    Well ok we've established that it wouldn't work, but provided the magnet was carefully positioned ABOVE the needle, i can't see how it would travel in any direction other than up, following both the magnet's field, and the path of least resistance in the flesh, i.e. the hole it went in through

    And it was just a thought
     
  20. Helene

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    But it doesn't deter from the fact that surgical steel is not magnetic.

    Am I sure? Hm.

    Oh god, you've made me begin to doubt myself...hang on...

    Right - I've now got a variety of different works (1ml's, orange heads, blue heads etc) on the table in front of me, and am trying to pick them up with a fridge magnet.

    It's not happening.

    Surgical steel is not magnetic!

    H

    Edit: Cheers Tomazco. My partner just walked in on the above scene, gave me a very strange look, then turned and left the room again. Now doubt he now thinks I've lost the plot completely! lol
     
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