nickname for this RC ??

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  1. joachimist

    joachimist Newbie

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    2-methylamino-1-</span>(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)butan-1-</span>one



    and what is the DOSAGE (oral...) and DURATION???



    i tried to search for info but i couldn't find anything (pikhal, erowid, lycaeum,....)





    Is it the same as Methylone ?



    The butane instead of propane... does it makes differences ?


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  2. joachimist

    joachimist Newbie

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    or is it MDBD ? but the -1-one should make it different ?





    and i also wondering what are those molecules :



    1-(4-fluorophenyl)propane-2-amine



    1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-o ne


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  3. allyourbase

    allyourbase Palladium Member

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    methyl jones, or mebylone I think. the -1-one indicates a double bonded oxygen or ketone group.
     
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    allyourbase Palladium Member

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    1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-o ne


    this would presumably be a pyradine-like(structurally related to benzene) ring with a ketonatedamyl hydride bit coming offtrying to mimicthe carbon stringstructure of an amphetamine, all with a classic PEA/amphetamine carrier structure.I would NOT want to be the first to try this substance.Edited by: allyourbase
     
  5. moeBius

    moeBius Gold Member

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    it's not very helpful to spread these nicknames before the substance
    hasnt gained any popularity. and since it probably never will one
    shouldnt start giving misleading nicknames to it.

    call it the beta-keto analog of mbdb if you want.



    the last one shouldnt be very potent because of its long sidechain. i
    think i read in pihkal that they dont seem to have any activity. but i
    dont know what the pyrrolidin-ring alters, it's located around the
    nitrogen afaik.
     
  6. nanobrain

    nanobrain Platinum Member

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    yes pls stay away from nicknames as descriptives.
     
  7. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    As far as I know, no one on this forum has yet tried any of those
    compounds. Here's some info from another forum:

     
  8. joachimist

    joachimist Newbie

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    Ok thank every body... I was actually looking for nicknames because i'm
    used to read trip-reports before try products, and i couldn't find
    anything about those. Now i can, thanks.

    I understand nicknames can be problematic for such unknown RCs...



    i still have a question for you:

    1-(4-fluorophenyl)propane-2-amine

    is it 4-FMP ??
     
  9. JewishNazi

    JewishNazi Gold Member Newbie

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    no,
    1-(4-fluorophenyl)propane-2-amine is 4-FA (4-fluroamphetamine)
     
  10. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Unfortunately, the name "4-FMP" has gotten tagged onto this drug, even
    though it is incorrect.
     
  11. Pinkavvy

    Pinkavvy Platinum Member & Advisor

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    what is the differance between real 4-FMP and the above mentioned chemical? what are the differance in effects?
     
  12. gn2osis

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    I wasn't aware there was a "real" 4-FMP, but rather that the name 4-FMP
    was just not technically a very good abbreviation (I guess it stands
    for 4-Fluoro-alpha-Methyl-Phenethylamine). Same chemical, AFAIK.

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  13. JewishNazi

    JewishNazi Gold Member Newbie

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    Hmm, strange that it would be given the 'wrong' name.


    Irrigardless of the topic, I thikn it would be MDPPP as an abreviation because those are the letters that each main part starts with
     
  14. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    I forget where I read about it, the story is that a vendor used that name
    and it stuck.
     
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    is this case, Shulgin would have to be wrong. 'Butylone' makes it sound as if it has a mutylene groupbecause of the similarity to methylong and ethylon. There will obviously be confusion due to that. methylJones is the best so far
     
  18. enquirewithin

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    Or perhaps methyljone, as the the plural is probably amusing rather than necessary? MBDBone might be as approproriate, as Shulgin called MBDB Metyhl-J to avoid the stigma of MDMA.
     
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    Regarding
    1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-o ne:





    I posted this on another forum and will repost because it exactly applies here:



    WARNING! The name "MDPPP</font>"
    has been applied to two different compounds. One of them has been
    discussed in this thead, and is also known as MDPV, aka
    1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan- 1-one, aka
    3',4'-methylenedioxy-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-valerophenone. This is a ketone
    with a five-carbon chain.



    However, there is also a similar compound, chemically identical except
    for the fact that it has a three-carbon chain. Its chemical name is
    3',4'-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone.

    Link: http://amphetamines.com/mdppp/



    The confusion results from the fact that propane (3 carbons) and
    pentane (5 carbons) both begin with the letter "p". The name MDPV is
    pretty umambiguous because the "v" stands for "valerophenone", another
    name for "pentanophenone".



    These compounds likely have different dosages. The five-carbon
    compound, MDPV, is reportedly active at just 5 mg. I have no
    information as to the activity of the three-carbon compound.



    Be sure you know which one you're working with!</font>

    .

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  20. fastandbulbous

    fastandbulbous Titanium Member

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    this would presumably be a pyradine-like(structurally related to benzene) ring with a ketonatedamyl hydride bit coming offtrying to mimicthe carbon stringstructure of an amphetamine, all with a classic PEA/amphetamine carrier structure.I would NOT want to be the first to try this substance.That's a mixture of gobbledegook and plain incorrect. It has nothing to do with pyridine (which is a heterocyclic six membered aromatic compound). It refers to pyrrolidine, which is aheterocyclic fivemembered non-aromatic compound. As to what a ketonated amyl hydride is, god alone knows. The compound is a ketone with a substituted benzene ring (sub with 3,4-methylenedioxy group) on one side of the carbonyl group, and a butyl chain, with a pyrrolidine ring attached via the nitrogen to the carbon adjacent to the carbonyl group. It is vaguely a modified amphetamine structure (very vaguely) that is a specific dopamine reuptake inhibitor, active in humans at around the 5mg mark, orally
     
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