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Pharmacology - OxyContin OP?

Discussion in 'Oxycodone' started by Ratsabilly, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Ratsabilly

    Ratsabilly Silver Member

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    My friend was prescribed Oxycodone 10 mg for pain. This dosage was not enough so the Dr. prescribed Oxycodone 20mg. When she picked up her meds at the pharmacy, the bottle says 20mg OxyContin OP. Now She realizes that Oxycodone and Oxycontin are the same drug, but what is this OP all about? And why are they chewy? She could not really chew them up to get the desired effect. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
     
  2. ellavader

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    The reason they are chewy is so that your friend does not get the desired effect, because purdue pharma (the company that produces oxycodone) is being sued by everyone so they came up with this "tamper proof" formulation.

    How ever many are now complaining, stating that they don't even get the analgesic effects when taken properly, on top of the fact that the new formulation might (I'm not sure) contain known carcinogens making that formulation unavailable by Health Canada up north so, the old oxycodone/CDN (stamped) formula is still available there.

    You might wanna take a drive north to get your meds if you want the desired effects or do some research on here I'm sure there have been several posts regarding how to etc...
     
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  3. Ratsabilly

    Ratsabilly Silver Member

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    Great. More cancer causing agents. She lives close enough to Canada to do that, but didn't someone somewhere pass a law keeping US citizens from getting meds from Canada? Remember all of those poor old people taking bus trips to Canadian pharmacies? The government and drug companies need their last dollars you know.
     
  4. msjaguarxj6

    msjaguarxj6 Silver Member

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    I can only get the ops.
    It's a time release tablet and swallowing them will not give you desired effects. That's why I chew mine until they are all broken apart. I feel the high within 10-15 minutes this way. Whoever said that you can't get the desired effect with them is incorrect.

    It's not the same as an oxycodone that you can crush and snort, but chewing away the time release coating will still give you a high. Also someone on here said that they found it useful to use a product called "pedipaws" to grind the time release part off of the pill, and then were supposedly left with just the drug.

    I have absolutely no idea if this can be done, or if this did indeed produce the desired outcome. But you should have no trouble chewing as long as you keep it in your mouth and chew away for a little bit of time.
     
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    Instead of chewing, i find that placing the pill in a spoon and crushing it with another directly above it is more efficient and you don't have to deal with the bitter taste. Do the OP's gel up if you do it that way? Perhaps that's why you guys chew them??? The only time i would chew them is if I'm not at home....
     
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    She chewed them up for a minute. She got a little buzz but nothing like with the other ones. Perhaps she should chew them up more.
     
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    [​IMG] Try crushing it with 2 spoons or you can use one of these to gring them....works great with the old formula i would think it would still grind nice and fine with this....
     
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    Yes chew them up until there is nothing left but sticky gelatinous material stuck in your teeth then swallow all the little bits! I get VERY high off of a 20 or I chew 2 20s at a time.
     
  9. Artemus

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    I do not prefer Oxycontin over Oxycodone. Financially, a month's worth of Oxycontin at 20 mg (my old dose) was about (Price removed).
    Oxycodone generic in equivalent strength and quantity was (Price removed). The "sell" is that Oxycontin is a 12-hr slow release variety of oxycodone. I used it for pain, not to get high, and I didn't want it to make me high, but it did for a few hours.

    The "slow release" isn't linear. It has peaks and valleys and it is more difficult to maintain a constant level of pain meds in my blood with Oxycontin. Personally, narcotics (Oxycontin and oxycodone) are not a pleasant experience for me. They are like I drank a pot of coffee, make me jittery and grumpy, and are the best--but far from perfect--pain solution I've had.

    A lot of different pills doctors like to give for pain just make me ill. The more synthetic that are, the worse I suffer their side-effects. I just never had that feeling I see on tv with people nodding off in euphoria and giving up their lives to live on a street corner. If I had twice the pills, I wouldn't take twice the dose because I'd become a roaring a**hole and no one would want to be around me. lol. Oh, well. Blessing in disguise I suppose.
     
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  10. coolhandluke

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    there are many threads on here about the new oxycontin op formulation. with the new time release mechanism even if it is ground or chewed or broken up, the time release is still intact, unlike the old oxycontin oc version where if it were crushed the time release was completely bypassed. i dont know the particulars of the new time release, but even if it is broken up it will still gel back up and not dissolve at once. there is some info about doing chemical extractions on them, but it seems like a lot of work and pretty complicated.

    another option would be trying to get some instant release oxycodone tabs. these have no time release and can be swallowed whole and completely dissolve like the old oxycontin oc pills would if they were crushed evenly. this was the first thread on here started about the new oxycontin op's, some pretty solid info. there is a lot more info around the forum about them as well, try using the forum search engine.

    https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138690&highlight=oxycontin&page=2
     
  11. Ratsabilly

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    Her doctor wrote the prescription for oxycodone 20 but the pharmacy gave her 20 mg oxycontin because they didn't have oxycodone in that strength and they said if wa the same. Obviously not.

    Ratsabilly added 14 Minutes and 21 Seconds later...

    And that link was very helpful. Why didn't it come up when I searched for oxycontin OP?

    Ratsabilly added 75 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

    Really? Coca-Cola? Has anyone tried this? I'm trying to put a link in here but I am computer illiterate and am having a lot of trouble. So I googled "extracting oxycodone from oxycontin OP" and found that people are soaking the pills in Coke for about and hour and then drinking the coke plus mushy pills. They are getting really high. My friend would like some more advise before she goes wasting pills. Would Pepsi work? She hates Coca-Cola.
     
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    As I understand it, it's supposed to be the citric acid in the coca-cola that does some of the breaking down. If that's the case, one could try leaving it in some lemonade or maybe even KoolAid or something. Maybe crush up the pill as best one can, put it in a small juice glass & cover with the juice of one lemon. Leave to sit for a while (an hour or more), then add water & sugar to turn it into lemonade & thus make it drinkable. *grin*

    I no longer recall where I read this, but something like that was one person's method & they claimed to have good results. *shrug*

    There's a HUGE difference between 20mg oxycodone & 20mg oxycodone extended release! If there wasn't a notation on the prescription for those tablets to be ER or specifically OxyContin (or its generic), that's a HUGE mistake on the pharmacy's part & I'd raise high holy hell. What if your 20mg oxycodone tablets were for your breakthru pain, and SUPPOSED to be instant release...taking an OC version of it instead is gonna give you, like, 2mg an HOUR of the medicine, instead of the 20mg prescribed! Get that checked out...and if you were supposed to have IRs, have your doctor call & bitch them out and go to a different pharmacy in the future!

    OTOH, I've never heard of 20mg instant release oxycodone; 5mg, 10mg, 15mg & 30mg tablets, but never 20mg...20mg have always been ER tablets.

    ~Kailey
     
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    I know! The prescription only said "Oxycodone 20mg". She called the pharm when she got home before taking them and asked if it was the same and stuff. They assured her it was ok and the same. What if she had some allergy to he extended release or something?

    Ratsabilly added 3 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...

    Oh BTW, she's got her 2 pills soaking in about 4 or 5 oz of Coca-cola. To be continued...

    Ratsabilly added 119 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

    OK, I'm happy to report that this works. She took 2 20mg OxyContin OP pills. Cut them into little pieces. Put them in about 4 or 5 oz of Coca-Cola. Then she microwaved the mixture until it came to a low boil (she read 2 techniques for this. One was to just soak the pills in Coke for an hour. The other one said to chop up pills, put in some Coke, boil, then drink. She combined the techniques). Let sit until it was room temp. Served over ice along with the rest of the Coke. Also swallowed the mushy pills. She really felt it about 20 minutes later. The high was more intense than just chewing up and swallowing 2 20mg pills.
     
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    Okay, I'd like to ask some questions about this high. I, too, have 2 20 mg Oxycontin, Op formula. The past two days in a row i've been taking 3 20mg oxycontin OP, but now i'm down to my last two.

    I generally chew them up as jaguar said, until they are quite like a gelatin. I've done this for up to 5 minutes before. Within 15 minutes the first stages of the high creep in. Within an hour i'm under the influence of a good OC high. It generally lasts a long time, and comes in waves. Especially when I smoke tobacco.

    Now to my questions. How long did this high last? Did it last all day like chewing them up and taking them? Was it over in just a few hours? HOW intense, do you mean? I've actually obtained a slight nod from chewing 3, so did the method she used allow her to gain one from only 40 mg?

    I'm sorry, but these are my last two and I'm desperately trying to obtain what I need from them. So, naturally, i'm researching and very curious. Please write back soon!
     
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    Hello: There are medications of patients to whom I administer are given via SL, (under tongue) which are quickly absorbed into the fine capillaries under their tongues. If one masticates (chews) this medication and places the mash under the tongue the medication is quickly absorbed by those fine, close-to-the-surface capillaries which results in quick absorbtion and bio availability. ​
     
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    I have to agree with Artemus, I have been on narcotic pain meds since 2012, I've been on Oxycontin for 1.5 yrs, I have several issues with my back from installing carpeting for 13+ years, I never thought I would end up like this, I'm 38 but my body feels like I'm 60+.
    I'm left with a tear in my L5/S1 and several damaged discs and major arthritis in my back. I have found relief in Oxycontin 12hr release, although it only lasts 7-8 hrs for me. I started on the 30mg 1.5 yrs ago, and now am on the 80mg version. Some days are good, some are bad, but without this medicine I can tell you I wouldn't be able to function daily- make money, go to college , etc.

    I suppose any medicine can be abused, its all in the hands of the person. The feelings of euphoria are brief, and don't bother me much anymore, as with all medicine, once your on it for a while your body adjusts to it and you feel quite normal.

    As far as issues with the medicine dissolving properly over time, I can tell you it is not at all how my D.O. described it would be, the release rate has major troughs and peaks throughout the 8 hrs, the first 3 hrs it peaks, after the 3rd hr it drops down to half of the dose for the next 5-6 hrs, no way does it continue to release for 9 more hrs, sorry it just doesn't. Purdue has a good product which is helping many Chronic Pain patients, I would hate to see people start abusing it where it would become no longer available.
     
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    Here in Canada, we had the old CDN ones, now we have the OxyNeo's which are like the OP's from all the reports I've looked into. They have the same chewy texture making them unsuitable if not impossible to Snort or Inject.

    I have found the cutting the pills into a fine powder negates this time release formulation, some people I know choose to remove the coating, although I find this to be rather pointless and I suspect its an old habit from users of the older formulation, where users who snorted or injected their pills removed the coating. They could be cut into a fine enough powder to snort, however I know some people who tried this with no results other then a bloody nose.

    The taking of one 40mg OxyNeo I find is not as intoxicating as if one were to take the equivalent 40mgs of oxycodone in another formulation eg: Percocet.

    If you took 8 percocet to equal the 40mgs or a OxyNeo, I personally find that taking the 8 percocet is much more intoxicating and more enjoyable, although your liver might not agree! heh. Be warned that taking 8 percocet at once is probably not going to kill you or even give you a stomach ache but never the less a foolish idea!
     
  18. Coloradoman

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    I had the 30mg contins a year ago in Colorado. U cant snort or shoot them. Unless u got power tools and hours to waste. I cut mine in qaurters got the same great time just lasted alot longer then snorting or chewing up my oxycodone