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Health - pain in heart from ecstasy

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by iknowwhatumean, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. iknowwhatumean

    iknowwhatumean

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    swim has rolled on x 5 times. two times, swim woke up (the morning after rolling) and swims heart was burning and throbbing. not extreme pain, but a very strange and slightly uncomfortable. just abnormal. and right in the heart, not the whole chest....

    whats the deal with that?
     
  2. adam7050

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    makes no sense. there's no telling whats in x these days. swim has done a lot of it going back to 1997, it was a lot different then. problem is MDMA is expensive, so people will put anything in there that will get your heart pumpin to make more money. swim used to do nothing but x for a long time, and has never felt pain like that. Might be a good idea to only do it when your source is extra reliable and paying an extra $5 each is usually a good thing. adam
     
  3. Dr. Satan

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    One of the major problems with actual Ecstasy pills is poor quality assurance and the risk of contaminants and unwanted derivatives. Additionally there may be intentional substitutions of other drugs by the seller. A lot of bad products are substituted as MDMA (Ecstasy) because it's cheaper and easier to produce.
    So, some cardiovascular effects, hypotension, transient hypertension tachycardia, SVT, ventricular arrhythmias and asystole are possible.
     
  4. Alfa

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    Many people have small heart dysfunctions that under normal conditions would not become apparent. With the use of ecstasy and other serotonin stimulants however, this can manifest. Adrenalin (Nor Epinephrine) stimulants put some strain on the heart, which is also a factor.
     
  5. Dr. Satan

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    Some more info:

    Ecstasy (MDMA) and Heart

    Drugs such as Ecstasy (MDMA), Heroin and Cocaine all affect the brain. New data show that ecstasy can also damage the heart. Researchers at Louisiana State University, Loyola University and Tulane School of Medicine have discovered that MDMA can change the way the heart works. People who use MDMA often go on "drug binges" when they use the drug frequently, then stop. The scientists tested a similar drug pattern using rats. In the experiments, rats were given MDMA (either 3 mg/kg or 9 mg/kg) twice a day for four consecutive days. After a 10-day period without receiving any drugs, the four-day drug treatment started again. Heart rate, electrocardiogram and blood pressure measurements from each rat were taken before and after the drug treatments. The hearts of rats were also examined under a microscope for damage at the end of the experiment.
    After the first drug binge, the rats' heart rate slowed initially, then sped up. After the second and third drug binges, the heart rate slowed even more and blood pressure dropped dramatically. Many (70%) rats showed abnormal heart rhythms after receiving MDMA. Although a single MDMA binge did not result in any apparent heart damage, three MDMA binges caused inflammation of the heart wall.
    It is unknown how MDMA causes these heart problems. It is possible that MDMA stimulates the autonomic nervous system which in turn affects the heart. The researchers also suggest that this drug may affect the central nervous system by altering signals in the vagus nerve. Regardless of the mechanism by which Ecstasy affects the heart, it is clear that users of MDMA risk damage to their cardiovascular systems.