Opinions - Painkiller but not downer???

Discussion in 'Various drugs not covered by other forums' started by Hippieeee, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. Hippieeee

    Hippieeee Guest

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    Hey guys, I want to know if anybody out there knows a drug or a combination which acts as a painkiller, but doesn't take away your alertness and ability to move around properly?

    I would like just something that makes you more tolerant to pain without putting you to sleep. Thnx!
  2. Forthesevenlakes

    Forthesevenlakes Platinum Member

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    Feb 26, 2006
    most opiate painkillers dont make swim tired. in some people they have the opposite effect. your milage may vary. some opiates seem to keep people awake more than others, e.g. many people seem to be less sedated with hydrocodone than morphine. dissociatives also have a painkilling effect in some people, effectively by detaching them from feelings of pain, not necessarily upping their tolerance. dxm and ketamine would fall into this category. I believe that antispasmodics and even drugs like gabapentin are used sometimes in cases of chronic pain depending on where it emenates from. it all depends what the origin of swiy's pain is.

    I dont have official scientific proof of this, but exercise and a good diet would probably go a long way towards helping prevent pains too =]
  3. ZepDoorsFloyd41

    ZepDoorsFloyd41 Newbie

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    Aug 6, 2006
    Most pharmacutical opiates make swim upbeat and energetic, with relieving pain at the same time.
  4. psychedelaholic

    psychedelaholic Titanium Member

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    Nov 2, 2005
    from england
    From what I've read about 2-Aminoindan it acts as a short lasting stimulant and as a quite effective painkiller, although I don't speak from experience just what I've read on erowid and the like.
  5. Nicaine

    Nicaine Titanium Member

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    Jul 12, 2004
    from Rhode Island, U.S.A.
    'Course. Aspirin, Tylenol, Ibuprofen being but a few.

    Beyond that, a combination opiate agonist/antagonist like pentazocine or buprenorphine might fit the bill. Kratom fits sometimes, but in SWIM's experience is unpredictable... it can be a strong downer, and at other times it can act as an upper.
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2006
  6. old hippie 56

    old hippie 56 Gold Member

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    May 10, 2005
    I find that Tramadol gives a much needed push plus reliefs pain to some extent. This is around 200mg.
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2006
  7. snapper

    snapper Gold Member

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    Sep 30, 2005
    from U.S.A.
    Kratom is very stimulating at LOW doses. It is, in fact, consistent for SWIM in this regard. Doses of 2-3 g of good quality leaf provide a strong stimulation more akin to amphetamines than caffeine. Clear-headedness and energy without the drained feeling caffeine gives you. Higher doses are more like a morphine level of sedation. Really high doses just suck. I feel that often people work upwards with drug doses and miss the benefits of lower ones. However, the degree of analgesia is dose-dependent with kratom, and not that effective overall.