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Pharmacology - Percocet vs Norco?

Discussion in 'Opiates & Opioids' started by kinesis2, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. kinesis2

    kinesis2 Newbie

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    I fucked my rib up pretty bad from bronchitis so my doc gave me a script for percocet and I Was just wondering how it compares to norco as far as potency/strength/feeling and pain killing effect.. im sure it'll do the trick but are they on par with each other? which is stronger?
     
  2. PsychoActivist

    PsychoActivist Palladium Member

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    First off, I understand that it is prescribed to you and therefore it is legal for you to take it, but just to be on the safe side, please use SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) or say "my friend" or "this guy I know" or something like that. It's good to get in the habit of that since self incrimination is not allowed here.

    With that said, what mg dosage are the Percocets?

    Norco is just a brand name for Hydrocodone Bitartrate and Acetaminophen. They come in 10/325mg's (10 mg's of Hydrocodone and 325 mg's of Acetaminophen) and 7.5/325 mg's. They are basically just the same thing as Lortabs or Vicodin - it's all Hydrocodone w/ Acetaminophen. While the brand name "Norcos" only come in 2 different strengths, Lortabs come in 4 different strengths, I believe.

    Percocet is Oxycodone w/ Acetaminophen.
    It comes in 6 different strengths:
    2.5/325
    5/325
    7.5/325
    7.5/500
    10/325
    10/650

    Oxy
    codone is a little stronger than Hydrocodone. SWIM feels that he has to take about 10mg's of Hydrocodone to equal to 7.5 mg's of Oxycodone. Though he has read somewhere that 10 mg's of Hydrocodone is actually equal to about 6.6.mg's of Oxycodone. He is not sure how true this is though.

    So basically if the percocet is the same amount of mg's as the Norco's you were taking, then yes it will definitely be a little stronger.

    Their actions are almost identicle to each other with the exception that Oxycodone, for most people seems to be a little more euphoric. As far as therapeutically, which one will kill the pain more, SWIM is gonna have to say Oxycodone does just a little bit of a better job (for him anyway).


    Hope this helps answer your questions.
     
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  3. Micklemouse

    Micklemouse Platinum Member & Advisor

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    No need to use SWIM if it is used as prescribed & there is no discussion of using it in conjunction with unprescribed substances.

    Please do not post links or URLs for other forums. Post the information crediting the author & stating found on another forum. Information on formatting tables can be found in the Forum Use section I believe.
     
  4. battonbutterfly

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    swim found some acetaminophen-hydrocodone bitartrate, and its 500/10 mg, how many would swim take to feel anything? swim is a female, 5 ft 8, 130 lbs with no tolerance
     
  5. shutin

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    battonbutterfly: I think your reply is off topic, but in the interest of harm reduction, you cannot take more than 1000mg of APAP (aka Tylenol aka acetaminophen) per 4-6 hours so that limits SWIY to two of those pills unless you want to risk serious liver damage.
     
  6. Petri6

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    SWIM thinks that the above information is incorrect and that the safe maximum dose for APAP is 2000mg at one dose and 3000mg daily. And going over that dose isn't automatically "risking serious liver damage". SWIM knows that APAP isn't good for the liver in the long run and can be really toxic at higher doses but SWIM thinks that this hazard should not be overstated. Harm reduction, in SWIM's opinion, means giving accurate information and not overstating the dangers.

    SWIM does however recommend doing a cold water extraction (CWE) if someone is going to ingest products containing more than 1500mg of APAP because APAP at higher doses causes SWIM some uncomfortable nausea. And if you are going to use APAP containing products recretionally on a regular bases you should always do a CWE so to not unnecessarily strain your liver.
     
  7. Micklemouse

    Micklemouse Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Petri, please research before posting - thinking is not good enough with a drug like paracetamol.

    Maximum safe dose is 4grams (4000mg) in 24 hours, in 1gram (1000gram) doses every 6 hours. Going over that dose may not automatically lead to liver damage, but the risk is certainly there & should not be downplayed just because there is no guarantee.

    There is no overstating the risks of paracetamol - fatal reactions have occurred with accidental overdoses of as little 500mg above the recommended dose

    Chemist suffering from flu is killed by half a paracetamol tablet - this story outlines a case a woman who died after taking 8.5 grams (16.5 tablets) over 2 days. Paracetamol has a narrow therapeutic window, & should be treat with respect.

    From http://www.medic8.com/medicines/Paracetamol.html

    It is worth noting that mortality rates among accidental overdoses are considerably higher than for deliberate overdoses, as those taking deliberate overdoses are more likely to seek medical attention within the time that the antidote will be effective (http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/G/20021040.html)
     
  8. RaoulDuke32

    RaoulDuke32 Silver Member

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    im surprised no one has said this but:
    If the norcs are the 10/325s, and the percs are the 5/500's, get the norcs. if swiy can get 10 mg percs, do that. and hydrocodone is roughly 4/5's as potent as oxy. 8/10. so theres your answer. if its 7.5 norcs and 5 mg percs, swim would say get whichever one contains less tylonal. and swim always thought the toxic level of acetamenaphin was 4000mg. but some people take a lot more, much to their livers distress and dysfunction.