Pharma Huasca & Ayahuasca revealed!

Discussion in 'DMT and Ayahuasca' started by robertone, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. robertone

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    Swim met Jonathan Ott some time ago and learned a lot from him about how Ayahuasca functioned in the human body. At that time Ott also introduced the term Pharma Huasca.

    Jonathan Ott was able to study the use of Ayahuasca from closeby. He intensively researched the active compounds and discovered why Ayuhuasca is so unique. With this information he came at the idea of trying a 'pharmaceutical' grade of Ayuhuasca, which he nicknamed... Pharma Huasca! The most important in his discovery was that the Harmala compound (e.g. Harmine or Harmaline) didn't had the strong psychedelic effect which it was considered to have for some time. It rather functioned as a carrier for DMT, by which DMT become oraly active at doses at which its only active when smoked! Actually there was a kind of synergistic effect between the two compounds. With this in mind he came at the idea to try 5-MEO-DMT which, like DMT, is orally practically inactive, but smoked considerably stronger then DMT. And again it proved that combined with Harmine an orally inactive DMT derivate become active orally. For reasons not completely clear to Swim, but most probably because its has weaker MAOI proportions, Jonathan Ott prefered Harmine above Harmeline.

    With all this in mind Swim produced, back in 1998, the first batch of Pharma Huasca ever. Swim made tablets of 100 mg pure Harmine, masked with a bit grinded Noni, and small tablets with 10 mg 5-MEO-DMT. The proposed way of taking them was first one tablet of Harmine directly followed by one or two tablets of 5-MEO, at choice. The first effects usually came up within 15 to 20
    minutes. Now comes one of the most beautifull parts of Pharma Huasca; as soon the effects starts to decline, usually after about two hours, just take one more 5-MEO. It's not neccessary to take an other tablet of Harmine the next coming eight to twelve hours. Just take one more small 5-MEO tablet everytime the effects starts to decline or when stronger effects are wanted.

    At a psychedelic conference down in Mexico the Pharma Huasca was well tried out and received very positively.
     
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  2. Marsofold

    Marsofold Platinum Member

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    Usually pharmahuasca refers to a mixture of harmala crystals and DMT freebase. The harmala crystals act as a concentrated MAOI and the DMT freebase is converted to the HCl salt in the stomach. Some people claim that it works better when taken with Coca-Cola, since the phosphoric acid in the soda converts the DMT freebase into the phosphate salt form...
     
  3. Nagognog2

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    Did SWIM note the duration of the MAOI effects from the harmine? In laymen's terms - how long before an oral dose of 5Meo-n,n-DMT would no longer cause an effect? Is this the 8-12 hours you alluded to?
     
  4. robertone

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    To answer SwiN's question; yes, that's the 8 to 12 hours Swim refered to. However, it might be active longer. Swim simply doesn't know any-one who tried to stay longer then twelve hours frenzied with one 100 mg Harmine tablet. Most stopped after eight hours! But an other Harmine tablet can be taken if a supporting (please improve this expression) 5-MEO dose doesn't stop the decline.

    I amn't certain, but believes that Jonathan Ott preferred Harmine above Harmaline because it's weeker intoxification effects, by which the 5-MEO effects would be much more clear. The sole 100 mg Harmine never caused any noticeable effect for Swim. Combined with 5-MEO, however, Swim noticed strong and deep going effects.
     
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  5. Hellian

    Hellian Newbie

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    I think "Pharma Huasca" means that the MAOi component is obtained from pharmaceuticals like MAOi anti-depressants.