There are some newer ones that aren't really herbal XTC at all. They contain piperazines (including BZP and TFMPP... possibly others) that are EXTREMELY ACTIVE!! BZP is controlled substance in the US. But, do some research... most of the newer 'herbal' e's tagged from 'new zealand' are chunk-full-o-piperazines... so, do your research and then experiment with these accordingly. If you need somewhere to get started looking for these CHEMICAL highs (because calling them 'herbal' would be a joke) that are at a bare minimum equivalent to amphetamine; some more tactile or 'trippy' depending on what's mixed in WITH the BZP and in what ratio, then do google search on some of these: "SILVER BULLET MASH KERMI DEVILS VIBE BENT DLITE HUMMA REDHEARTS ICE DIAMONDS TWISTED GOODSTUFF. I can't vouche for all (or ANY) of these personally, but I've read the ingredients on most of them and just about all of them should rock your world.