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Dose - Premium Thai Kratom Capsules (00)

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by dude the dude, Feb 4, 2011.

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  1. dude the dude

    dude the dude Newbie

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    What's up ya'll! So this dude I know just ordered an ounce of Premium Thai Kratom Capsules (00) and it's his first ever experience with it. He searched a few of the threads on here but didn't really get an answer to the questions he had. I'm pretty sure this is what he was wondering:

    (let it be known that this dude is looking for stimulation and not sedation)

    -supposedly there's ~1gram in each (00) capsule-

    1) With no prior opiate influences, how many of these capsules might this dude wanna take?

    2) This dude read that in some instances people have taken ~10 capsules and felt nothing :thumbsdown:

    3) If this dude starts with just one or two capsules, how long does he need to wait before popping another (if one or two doesn't effect him)? Because this dude doesn't want to start taking more if the capsules he already took happens to kick in without warning after he takes another (or more).

    4) Lastly, this dude read that Bali Kratom leaves are cheaper and is the way to go for quantity/effect, although the people suggesting this also said it's best for sedation and didn't mention stimulation. Should this dude stick to low doses of Premium Thai and Maeng Da if he's interested in stimulation and not sedation?

    -this dude really is a rookie so any advice is GREATLY appreciated!-

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  2. ianzombie

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    Firstly ignore the 'premium' as this is something the vendor has tagged on to make their kratom sound impressive. It could be good stuff, it could be rubbish, Swiy wont know until they try.

    The Dr. would suggest starting out with about 5 grams, but he would remove it from the capsules and mix it into some juice or a smoothie. The Dr does not like using capsules as they often don't break down at the same time and sometimes don't break down at all for him.

    Emptying ot the powder will make it easy to weigh out an exact dose and taking it in juice or Toss & Washing it will make for a faster absorption and effect.

    For best effects take the Kratom on an empty stomach, taking too close to having eaten will reduce the effects.

    Bali (although it does not technically come from Bali) is what most people seem to prefer, and it is most cost effective. The Dr. finds all strains to be both stimulating and sedating.

    In future please search the forum as all these questions have been answered before several dozen times.
     
  3. dude the dude

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    Another question:

    If this dude I know purchases Bali Kratom next time, what differences should he expect in the powder compared to the leaves? It seems these two are just a fraction apart in cost, with the leaves being slightly cheaper.

    And what is it about people using boiling methods with their Kratom? There are a few threads where this is mentioned but this dude I know gets confused by this, because he would prefer to just "Toss n Wash" as the doctor recommends in the above post? Is there something about the heat that "activates" the chemicals inside?

    In the above post a doctor would recommend juice or a smoothie, so why go through the trouble to prepare Kratom with "boiling methods" that appear to take so much longer?

    muchas gracias!
     
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    Powder is just ground leaves, the extra costs is a charge for the convenience of having a vendor grind the Kratom for you. It still has the same properties but it might have a slightly faster onset because there is more surface area available. Its also easier to swallow if its powdered.

    Boiling kratom in a pot with water will extract the alkaloids into the water making a kratom tea. The heat helps with the extraction and adding lemon/lime juice will also help to extract more alkaloids. Read some of the Teks posted in the forums for more information.

    People use this method because they might not like eating leaves/powder, because they prefer the fast onset from tea and they believe it kicks in harder. There are many reasons.
     
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    any known risks associated with mixing Kratom and alcohol?
     
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    In the Dr's opinion, based on his personal experiences, it makes the Hangover worse. Kratom is, despite being a very strong high, a very delicate high which can be masked by other drugs. The Dr always found that drinking alcohol after taking kratom, or with Kratom tended to kill the effects. A small amount of alcohol wont be a problem, but enough to get drunk will kill the Kratom effects, at least in the Dr's experience.
     
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    SIMS's dog Rex has experimented with mixing alcohol and Kratom. The results were mostly the same, the alcohol made the side effect of the nausea more pronounced and at alcohol doses that made Rex drunk the Kratom high was lost.

    Rex has seen a few posts about Kratom helping with reducing alcohol intake in some people.

    Is it possible to fit 1g of powdered Kratom into a 00 capsule? the most rex could ever manage was 650mg. Are all 00 capsules the same volume? maybe rex is confusing 00 with 000, he will check later tonight.
     
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  8. Shampoo

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    All of these questions have been answered extensively throughout the forum. Answering them again here only serves to cater to a lazy poster and dilute the quality of information on the forum. Further responses to previously answered questions in this thread will receive negative reputation points. If a NOVEL question arises, please post an appropriate thread for it. Otherwise, this thread is of use only to the OP, and serves no purpose for the whole of information on this site.
     
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