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Injecting - Preparing 50mg Kadian (Morphine) for Injection OR Smoking

Discussion in 'Morphine' started by fiveleggedrat, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. fiveleggedrat

    fiveleggedrat Palladium Member

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    Swim has come into contact with these:
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    They are capsules filled with wax beads, which contain 50mg morphine in timed release form. Swim has tried to find a way to filter and inject but with no luck. He grinds the beads and tries to filter, but even after filtering, the result is murky/cloudy. Swim filtered 5 times with cottons and a 30gauge needle, no luck. Swim also tried to use isopropyl alcohol instead of water to see if the wax was soluble in it, and it was. Swim assumes acetone would cause the wax to dissolve/melt too., still cloudy.

    Swim also would smoke them if they are impossible to filter safely. When heated, the wax expands, covering the morphine and then hardening, destroying it in the process.



    Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions that would help Swim get the damned wax out and leave the closest to pure morphine? Thanks.
     
  2. youdontknow

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    Just a suggestion...

    Maybe if you grind them up into the finest powder you can, then do a cold water extraction on it? I dont see why it wouldnt work...?
     
  3. fiveleggedrat

    fiveleggedrat Palladium Member

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    Swim did that. CWE does not work here. The wax grinds down into a fine powder too. It can't go into the final product.
     
  4. JarvyJarvison

    JarvyJarvison Silver Member

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    Has SWIY considered performing the extraction outlined in this post? :

    http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40674

    According to the author:

    I know I saw an easier extraction that just used water and temperature variation somewhere but I can't find it. Good luck.
     
  5. mbarnes0

    mbarnes0 Silver Member

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    SWIm knows IV is the 'best' route of administration for anything just about. But is smoking morphine better than just taking it?
    Why not just plug them? Is the high from smoking better?
     
  6. On The Nod

    On The Nod Silver Member

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    SWIM knows- crush up the beads using a grinder, get to very, very fine powder, then place in a large spoon and add 3ml of cold water. Stir for 2-3 minutes, suck up into a larger syringe and youll have a mirky, cloudy soloution, shake very well for another 3-4 minutes, then use a wheel filter to filter out all the wax that is left behind, again possibly use another wheel filter when sucking up the clearer liquid into a new syringe then voila, there you have very clean morphine, EASY...
     
  7. Horser

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    SWIM concurs! The Wax does indeed co-ag and is easily removed, (especialy with a d/f wheel). D-F Wheels are easily got at N x's or Public Health Centres (in Horse-trailer that is!)
    Swim is on KAPANOL which doesn't have the Wax so it is easily crushed & IV'd! (Just don't tell SWIMs DOc that!)
    SOLY might try telling their Doc that the Wax is giving soly a Stomach Ache and could soly switch to Kap'l!

    Oxy-Contin comes in Wax coats and SWIM has seen the Wax scrapped off BEFORE heating.
    This works for SWIMS friend. & it Should work for Yours!
    Cheers!
     
  8. mvb1

    mvb1 Newbie

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    What is this D-F wheel that is being referred to.

    mvb1 added 2 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

    The OC's are easy, because the coating can be removed on each individual pill. The Kadian are small beads.
     
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  9. hurricane

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    Yes what is a D-F Wheel?
     
  10. El Cubano Poco

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    Instead of using 2 wheel filters (.2u filters), crush the beads in a small hard plastic bowl (measuring cups work great) mortar and pestle style (i use a screwdriver head in repalcement). Crush the beads by twisting and pressing the beads slowly but forcefully at first, breaking all the capsules but not pulverising them in the process. Gently pour powder into fine metal screen (tea) filter, and (gently) shake and agitate the powder over a flat (glass) surface. Easy way to get a 50% morphine 50% filler mixture (for 100mg Kadians that is). Slowly pushing through one wheel filter with some saline solution with yeild a clean and potent solution ;) or you can enjoy the powder as is! Safe enjoyment friends! :vibes:
     
  11. rrz114

    rrz114 Newbie

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    What is a wheel filter? please?
     
  12. merkaba

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    swim just actually had his way 15 min ago with a 60 mg kadian ... the wax beads were a bitch, but not all that hard to grind up fliter... and then im (his sublingual attempt an hour earlier was just about as sucessful)
    he tried smoking a few of the beads as well (this thread is right up his alley) and it seemed to work pretty good? he was a bit high already though, hard to tell
     
  13. Jimbo420

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    SWIM just uses a motor and pedistal to grind up 2 0r 3 60mg kadian. then uses a 1cc syringe and 100ml of water. then mixs it around without taking out the coating to the beads. drops a cotton and sucks it up. is this a waste? swim feels a euphoria, but is swim wasting some of the kadian buy using 3?
     
  14. Op8lover

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    In Australia they have "exchange places" paid by Government, including "Youth Assistance Agencies", and Sexual Health Clinics etc, you san buy filters and "the wheel", which is what I think what they are referring too, which is sme form of filter device, that catches all bad solids, but gives out clean opiate made from water extraction. Swim has no Idea about hot or cold because Kapanol has no wax and works with cold. Moral of story: Always buy a filter with tools. Stay safe and have fun.
     
  15. Bunnintreez

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    Yes you are wasting a bit....im pretty sure only 60mg of morphine can disolve in 1cc (dont quote me on this, but im fairly certain its around that). So you deff gotta do a wash after
     
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  17. FastFifty

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    I don't know if the morphine capsules I used to get are Kadian, but they were definitely grey/clear with little white beads inside. 100mg. Here is the method I was taught to use.

    Pour the beads into a spoon. Add 1cc of water. (The last time I did this I used half of the beads, which should have been equivelant to 50 mgs, and 5 cc's of water, but I think I should have used another unit or so.) Heat very gently for approx 30-45 seconds. You will see the beads sort of come together in the spoon, and if you give the spoon a bit of a shake, they will for the most part hold together. The last time I did this I saw the mixture bubble once, and no harm was done.
    Now take the flat end of your syringe and smush up the beads on the tip of the spoon. The idea here is to squish the morphine out of the beads. IF you keep pressing the beads, all the soft waxy stuff should stick together in a blob which you just press and press until there is no round beads and just a white blob of wax. Push that aside. Because the mixture is going to be hot I usually add a bit of cold water to the liquid in the spoon. Throw a cotton in the cloudy liquid and suck the liquid up through the cotton to filter. If you want to be extra safe (I don't do this but for the sake up harm reduction I'm going to recommend filtering again with a wheel filter.)

    Enjoy the pins and needles! :)
     
  18. Magilla

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    Great harm reduction advice. The pins and needles experienced from these crushed balls was second to none!
    From the 200mg capsules, they were brown and said Kadian 200mg right on them, emptied into 1 full cc sterilized water, precrushed balls by putting in paper, folding and crushing, then making a boat in the paper and emptying the crushed balls into H2O. Then filter liquid, shoot and repeat at least once to get remainding morphine left that may have not dissolved completely in spoon into another shot. Pins and needles, that's for sure. However here is a list of the contained Inactives in those little balls, at least the black ink and ferric oxide can be avoided perhaps by not ingesting the capsule just the wax balls:

    Inactive Ingredients:
    hypromellose
    ethylcellulose
    methacrylic acid copolymer
    polyethylene glycol
    diethyl phthalate
    magnesium silicate
    corn starch
    sucrose
    gelatin
    silicon dioxide
    sodium lauryl sulfate
    titanium dioxide
    black ink
    ferric oxide black
    ferric oxide yellow
    ferric oxide red
     
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