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Drug info - Questions about plugging vs oral

Discussion in 'Morphine' started by cybergenesis, Jan 20, 2009.

  1. cybergenesis

    cybergenesis Newbie

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    Usually Swim gets oxycontin, but this time it seems likely Swim shall be getting some morphine tablets.

    Swim doen't like the idea, but if its the most efficient route (besides injecting) then Swim will consider plugging them.

    1. Is it true you MUST break up and dissolve a pill? What about if the pill is a timed released type? Just cause Swim will have to get hold of a syringe to plug it. If Swim didn't have to break up the pill Swim would just shove the pill in :)

    2. What does Swim ask for at a chemist to use as a syringe to plug morphine tablets? Swims never bought anything at all like this, dont know the name.

    3. What is the bioavailibility via plugging? What is the bioavailibility with oral?

    Thanks for anyone that can answer these questions.
     
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  2. phatassone

    phatassone Newbie

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    The oral BA is 30 to 50% i think and the anal BA is 40 to 60% but plugging also kicks in a lot faster...

    you should ask for a syringe with a removable needle... or some meds come with needless syringes to measure out quantities...
     
  3. MEKONE

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    By just shoving the pill in there you risk the chance of your body expelling it naturally due to the muscles.Another thing is that it probably wont completely disolve,will take a LOOOONG time to do so,and there is no sure way of measuring how much SWIY's body really absorbed(Remember analy the behaviorability is HIGHER as SWIY will be bypassing the liver).SWIY's best bet is a needle less syringe,which can me obtained with some OTC meds and is used as a ML. measuring tool.Good Luck!!
     
  4. Fix

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    AFOAF plugged it and didnt notice much of a result. Holding in your mouth is probably the best way to do it, ground up finely to increase surface area, and the warmth of your saliva should dissolve it into a liquid state. There are lots of cheek and tongue tissue to absorb the good stuff right into your bloodstream. What doesn't dissolve in 5-10mins will eventually be absorbed in your gut. Its best this way as it avoids loss of goodness thru your digestive enzymes. I think only 30% or something actually gets thru when swallowed. Another nice thing to do is to have a sweet cup of coffee or tea afterwards... helps with the taste and the sugar and heat will also help speed up transfer of goodies through the protein layers.
     
  5. MEKONE

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    Dissolving pills in ones mouth(especially sub-lingually)is one of SWIM's prefered method especially when it comes to Opana(Oxymorphone).SWIM feels it is absorbed quickly like stated above due to the soft tissues in the mouth and especially under the tongue which is why nitro is administered in this manner to heart pts..


     
  6. cybergenesis

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    Are you people saying swim can do morphine sublingually? Cause yes I'd definably prefer to do this if it works.
     
  7. betsym

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    Go to a veterinarian's office and ask for a needless syringe to feed an abandoned kitten or something. If they try to give swiy an eyedropper instead, say swiy wants something he can measure how much kitten formula or whatever that he's giving the "poor helpless thing." Swim has raised an abandoned kitten or two and she used one of these to feed them with.
     
  8. Fix

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    I can say that without a doubt Morphine can be taken sublingually just like subutex (make sure you chew it up or even better crush to a fine powder first using the back of a spoon or place it in a sheet of paper, fold and then scrub with a back of a credit card to end up with a white fine powder. Extended-Release Capsules which contain contin waxes etc are overcome by doing this because they also dissolve. Be careful though, your dose will come on quicker, faster and stronger than if taken orally and swallowed whole. Also swim finds this puts up their tolerance faster than normal oral methods. Brief answer: YES.
     
  9. MEKONE

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    SWIM can definately say this is true about tolerance,it is built up much more quicker this way.SWIM has done this method for years and has noticed a rapid increase.As stated above make sure SWIY starts off with a lower dose and then adjust as needed.Stay Safe,Good Luck!!