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Drug info - Questions on DXM products containing acetaminophen

Discussion in 'DXM' started by Kunta, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Kunta

    Kunta Newbie

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    few questions involving dxm from swim

    SWIM found out cough medicines can get him high, by taking 10 gels of nyquil for legitimate fever that was very bad.(it wasn't exactly one of the nyquil products, but It had identical active ingredients)

    He took 5, then took another 5 after 19 hours or so and managed to experience short hallucination, it wasn't very pleasant because someone was beating him while he was sleeping and he couldnt do anything because he was moving way too slowly, so he had to hide under his blanket while he was being beaten =(



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    [*]DXM HBr 15mg,
    [*]Doxylamine Succinate 6.25mg,
    [*]Acetaminophen 325mg.
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    SWIM, being a regular cannabis user, was interested in method of getting high by consuming DXM, however came to the conclusion that taking excessive amount of non-dxm can be fatal, Acetaminophen, specifically.

    Now SWIM wonders, 325mg x 10, = 3250mg of Acetaminophen, are they enough to be fatal to his kidney? Erowid says it is safe to take up to 4000mg of Acetaminophen as one time use, however he is now worried that something might go wrong, since people are liek "omg dont touch anything that isnt pure dxm or your going to enjoy a slow and painful deat" =(

    SWIM however, did not experience any out of ordinary pain since consuming the cough medicine(it has been 2~3 days now since the consumption)


    So heres are the question from SWIM:
    Can 3250mg of Acetaminophen be fatal to his kidney and be a threat to his life?

    He is also interested in getting high from DXM again, this time by taking DXM only, since SWIM does not have the resource or time to extract DXM from other cough medicines, he has to products such as Robitussin Cough Long-Acting Liquid(well this is the only one SWIM knows D:)
    He is interested in buying those from the pharmacy and wants to know what the average price would be per pack.(While SWIM realizes price will vary from town to town, state to state, he wants to get at least an idea of what he has to pay for them)

    SWIM is also interested in knowing the names of products similar to Robitussin's, that has DXM as the only active ingridients.

    SWIM would also like to thank people in these forum for making SWIM realize that taking excessive amount of
    Acetaminophen can be fatal, which stopped him from buying more of similar to Nyquil products and put his life in jeopardy.
     
  2. Mutil

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    Re: few questions involving dxm from swim

    Acetaminophen is added to some things for the sole purpose of preventing abuse. Unfortunately, it's working on Swim right now, as he has access to Hydrocodone which he would most certainly experiment with, if not for the Acetaminophen...

    Plain and simple: don't OD on acetaminophen. if big Pharma doesn't want us getting high, find another solution than killing your vital organs.

    there is a very complete list of products that contain DXM on this forum. Dexalone (obviously) has only DXM, Zicam makes products with DXM only, there are plenty of generic/store name brands that cost less with DXM only, but probably taste a lot nastier. easiest thing to do is just go to the supermarket, browse and read the labels.
     
  3. Panthers007

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    Re: few questions involving dxm from swim

    Avoid acetaminophen unless it's absolutely needed. And no - you aren't going to see SWIM die from 3250mg. Not this time. Just tell SWIM to avoid. Now learn to use the forum search engine (UTFSE). This has been answered many times.
     
  4. Kunta

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    Re: few questions involving dxm from swim

    Thank you for the answers.
     
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    SWIM is really bored on a friday night looking to experiment with cough syrup cause he's out of bud, he read on various websites that cough syrup with Dextromethorphan HBr (DXM HBr) mixed with acetaminophen can kill you. but wanted to get answers from real people, so anyone whos ever experimented with this can SWIY give SWIM an answer?
     
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  6. ganjahero420

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    Re: DXM HBr & Acetaminophen combination? please answer!

    yes the syrup swiy has will prbably cause liver damage or hepatoxicity much before you achive any appreciatible effects from the dxm. however bored you are jsut remeber you will live A-ok till tomrow and have a chance to try w/e the fuck u want but one decision like taking 6 grams of acetaminophen can fuck it up forever and you will deeply regret it. simply jsut dont do it.
     
  7. TheMainException

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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    Well, over time it can kill SWIY's liver...acetaminophen is hard on the liver at high doses and over time, just destroy's it. As one person on the forum put it, it's like aging your liver. SWIY will be a 30 year old with a 70 year old's liver...uncool and by the time SWIY is 45, it could be that he'll need to be getting a transplant, or just die. That's one way.
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    SWIM wouldn't risk using syrup with acetaminophen in it. and it depends on how much there is and how much swiy is taking. Wouldn't take anymore than 1500 mgs of it. can swiy not find syrup without acetam in it? or Sucrets or something?
     
  9. cra$h

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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    if you don't mind a slow painful death, than go for it. it'll happen after dosing, and if you live, it'll happen when you're old and about to die. Not worth the risk. The chances are 100%.
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    Don't be stupid. Acetaminophen is toxic. Use for 4 gram rule.
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    what is this "4 gram rule" you speak of?
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    Four grams is the safe amount of acetaminophen to take in a day. Any more than this is potentially hepatotoxic:
    5-8g risk of serious delayed liver damage if done more than a few times.
    8-15g go to hospital , antidote and stomach pumping needed- serious risk of major permanent liver damage. can sometimes be fatal.
    15+g good chance of acute toxicity leading to painful death within 2 days-call 911 right away.
    Find out the amount of syrup per dose and multiply by the amount of doses in the bottle, eg: Each 10ml of syrup contains 30mg of DXM HBr and 750mg acetaminophen. If you have a 100ml bottle, it will contain 10 times that so 300mg DXM, 7.5g APAP. It is dangerous to drink more than half of this bottle in a day and if you want to use DXM recreationally you must find a product without other ingredients.
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    Worth noting is that the prescribed safe limit of acetaminophen is 4 grams over a 24 hour period.

    It is not safe to take 4 grams as a single dose.

    To the OP,
    Yes, it can and most certainly will kill in high enough. In lower does it can cause liver damage.

    Surely DXM-only preparations aren't that hard to get?
     
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    Re: what are the chances that cough syrup with DXM HBr and Acetaminophen, can kill yo

    the stuff with acetiminophen will kill almost certainly kill you if you take enough to get you tripping from the dxm. you will overdose and most likely not feel anything for 16 hours. at which point your liver will die and you will die with it. this is unversible after 16 hours has passed. if you have taken this then get to the hospital immediately. if you feel pain in your liver then it is already too late.
     
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    Acetaminophen in my Dxm

    Swim has been collecting varouse tablets and bottels of dxm filled material,
    All of them have acetomophin Should swim be worried. And if so how much is to much, Swim weights 115 poinds. How much would couse a bad trip or even death?
     
  16. PandorymDMT

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    Re: acetomophin in my Dxm

    The recommended max dosage for Acetaminophen in a 24 hour period is 4g. At that level and above the Acetaminophen can begin to cause many adverse affects such as stomach bleeding, damage to the the liver and kidneys, and most severely acute liver failure.

    So to answer SWIY's question.
    Try to keep the amount of Acetaminophen that SWIY will consume to under 4 grams in any 24 hour period, and if SWIY needs to take a especially large dose of a DXM/Acetomenphin solution to produce more desired effects than SWIM recommends that SWIY does a cold water extraction of his DXM solution. This will greatly reduce the amount of Acetomenphin in SWIY's DXM solution and should remove a varity of other binders as well.
     
  17. Johan73

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    Re: acetomophin in my Dxm

    Yes generally consuming no more acetaminophen 'APAP' then necessary is the safest route. The cold water extraction (CWE) method can help get rid of most of it in your product.

    [IMGR=white]http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9190&stc=1&d=1245529279[/IMGR]If swiy is in the U.S., robo gel caps or liquid containing no other active ingredient than DXM are pretty widely available. Also there is a whole sub-forum just for DXM swiy might be interesting in: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=80
     

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  18. EscapeDummy

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    Re: acetomophin in my Dxm

    Acetaminophen + DXM might be the WORST/MOST DANGEROUS formula to trip on possibly including Triple Cs. Many syrups contain, for their single dosage, 10mg DXM and usually either 325 or 500mg Acetaminophen. A first plateau trip starts around 100mgs, which means you'd have to take 10 doses, which would be either 3.2 - 5grams of Acetominophen. That's a one way trip to liver-failure land, and possibly death from it.

    Seriously, never ever ever ever trip on a DXM syrup containing acetominophen. You literally will have kidney failure WELL before the 2nd plateau, which is where people begin to really trip.


    Edit: some people get a raise in body temperature/ feverish symptoms while tripping on DXM. Taking the recommended dose of acetominophen, ibuprofen, or other APAP/NSAID, will reduce some of the body load, at least in the EscapeDummy's experience.