RC questions

Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by Bwen, Feb 13, 2005.

  1. Bwen

    Bwen Silver Member

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    I just tried XTC last weekend..cost me 20$ Canadian a tab. I don't like paying a high price for god knows what XTC. So I have been looking into 2C-I and I'm wondering how close it actually is to E? Also since I just made an account I don't have access to the source forum and probably won't due to lack of posts. Is there anyway to access the source forum any other way?
     
  2. noeticbuzz

    noeticbuzz Newbie

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    Bide your time and spread some knowledge.


    It is possible to find distributors without access to the source forum just more time consuming.


    Some advice I recieved that was helpful.



    And Huzzah for my 100th post


     

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  3. BlueMystic

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    IMO. Both being in the same family (phenethylamine) would be the closest relation they have to each other. Other then that I haven't really found them to have any similarities. Others experiences may differ. Concerning the other question. There is one and only way to get access to the sources forum. Patience is a virture.
     
  4. fiftyseven

    fiftyseven Newbie

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    looking to RC's as substitues for E is a very bad idea, thats how these thigns get lost forever for everyone else. these things are really not to be fucked around with. i would say that each should be experienced as it is, and if you go into looking for somthing that its not, it will deffinatly change the experience.
     
  5. cyalume

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    If your want the ecstasy experience stick with ecstasy.. no research
    chemicals are good substitutes for it. And if you buy ecstasy
    pills by the 10 and 20 pack you can get them muuuuch cheaper,
    also dont buy in a club or at a rave thats where prices are at there
    highest..
     
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  6. Bwen

    Bwen Silver Member

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    Well the pills I tried were "Blue Hammer". I am now looking into "methylone" Trying to find a site that sells Explosion's... so far nada..
     
  7. gn2osis

    gn2osis Iridium Member

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    2C-I is like a blend of XTC and LSD, at least IMO (wow, check out all
    the initials). Not a substitute but something similar, with a little
    something extra, namely tripping. The first hour felt very similar to
    XTC (actual MDMA), speedy, maybe a bit less euphoric. Then at the
    one-hour point, it was as if a switch flipped and the familiar feeling
    of tripping set in although without much visual activity. It was never
    out of control (17 mg/ 90 kg, lightweight) and there was quite a lot of
    empathy and a push to share and talk honestly, and dancing felt great.
    I think it would be safe in a club but only once you're familiar with
    how it effects you, and comfortable with the feeling of tripping in
    public even if it's just mild tripping.

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  8. ISBN

    ISBN Silver Member

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    I hear the "like X and LSD" comment made alot, but does anyone think
    coke and LSD is a better comparison (or perhaps even coke and DXM)?



    and no, 2C-I is not like MDMA. 2C-I has a little bit of a "it feels
    good to move and dance" quality, but it's not the same flavor. 2C-I has
    no euphoria or lovey dovey empathy qualities. It doesn't have that
    wonderful rush. Methylone would be your best alternative, but it's not
    cheaper than bulk e.


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  9. drwoo

    drwoo Newbie

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    I see no E type qualitiesin 2c-i. Edited by: drwoo
     
  10. gn2osis

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    OK, that's fair. 2C-I probably does have more of an emphathic,
    sped-up, feel-good quality than many other RC's, but you are
    right: just because it's relatively closer to E than other RC's
    doesn't make it close in absolute terms.



    I believe there is also some empathy in 2C-I, and one of Shulgin's trials
    also said something like "incredible honesty; I was not afraid to say
    anything". But then, some people experience a certain push to be honest with
    all psychedelics.



    And of course lots of these things have merit on their own if you don't expect them to be something different....



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  11. allyourbase

    allyourbase Palladium Member

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    2CI is nauseatingly prevailant in "ecstasy tabs". lmao if youve ever tried "speed based", or lmao the one I find hilarious "mescaline based" X it was probably really 2ci. and no that doesnt mean they are anything alike. 2 C I is an actual hallucinagen, an honest to god psychedelic. wheras MDMA is a boring empathogen with no real redeeming qualities whatsoever. I dispise candy kids for distributing these substances. their moronic wall licking mentality is the reason we decent respectable, dare I say intelligent, folk cant smoke AMT any longer. Edited by: allyourbase
     
  12. gn2osis

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    Agree; it sucks that XTC tabs are so variable. No one should have
    to ingest ephedrine or DXM or K or 2C-I or anything else they don't
    expect. OTOH, most of the time people knew exactly what they were
    getting with RC's, and the fact that only a death or two occurred (and
    those with TOTALLY irresponsible behavior) just proves their safety,
    really. Standard MDMA powder or pills would be so much nicer.....

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  13. mariecurie

    mariecurie Newbie

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    I'm tired of hearing random research chemicals compared to the LSD/MDMA
    combo. The mental space on LSD is completely different from any
    phenethylamine and to compare them is retarded.



    A lot of people like Methylone a lot, but as someone already mentioned, it isn't going to be any cheaper than bulk ecstasy.



    2C-I is a bland, generic hallucinogen. It has no MDMA qualities. You
    get crappy LSD wanna-be visuals without any of the "enlightenment" or
    mental space of LSD.
     
  14. bud head four20

    bud head four20 Newbie

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    id say go for 2C-b if you want the E effect but thats just my oppnion.
     
  15. gn2osis

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    There are those who would respectfully disagree with that assessment
    (Shulgin himself, in part - he called 2C-I a treasure and ally).
    Some people really do feel wonderful on it, and enjoy the psychedelic
    and empathic qualities they feel. Your mileage may vary.

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  16. jaguarangel

    jaguarangel Newbie

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    MDMA analogues would seem to be what you are looking for like
    Methylone, MBDB etc.
     
  17. BEEKSc1

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    i have to agree with marie, i know swimdidn't have the best of trips, but whenswim first tried 2c-i, he was quite disapointed with the lack of insight it provided. the visuals where there, but swim's brain wasn't making the connections or associations that 'cid and the mushies provide.


    is there any Research Chemical can can be discribed similar to "getting lost in acid la-la land?"Edited by: BEEKSc1
     
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