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Rectal methylphenidate (ritalin) ?

Discussion in 'Concerta & Ritalin' started by boylizard, Feb 5, 2007.

  1. boylizard

    boylizard Newbie

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    Has anyswim ever tried administering their ritalin rectally? If not, Swim will be happy to try it, if given some pointers (i.e. recommended first time dose, swim is gonna assume 20 mg if nothing else).
     
  2. Lehendakari

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    20 mg is a good starting dose. Please report the experience, SWIL is very interested in this.

    IR ritalin pills are highly soluble in water, SWIL would dissolve 20 mg in 10 ml of warm water, cotton filter (optional) and shove up SWIY's ass.
     
  3. boylizard

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    can you describe how to cotton filter well? swim tried it once and failed miserably... Got a LOT of gelatin.
     
  4. DrMuffy

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    SWIdr has made a thread on how to administer substances rectally, which is located here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=188454#post188454
    Be careful with the dosage though, start low and work one's way up. SWIdr has tried rectal administration a lot of times, mostly with opiates and benzodiazepines, but he has never tried it with methylphenidate. Good luck!
     
  5. Lehendakari

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    It is just a procedure to remove insoluble material, it is necessary in case of IV administration but not if rectal-insufflated.

    Just filter the solution using a cotton filter. A coffee filter will do too. The liquid with Methylphenidate HCl will pass through the filter and binders and non water soluble materials will not.
     
  6. boylizard

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    Yeah, swim meant how to do a decent cotton filter - last time swim tried he didn't get much of the gelatin out of those dastardly methylphenidate pills.
     
  7. Lehendakari

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    Use a coffee filter. It isn't really important in rectal ad. BTW what kind of ritalin is SWIY using?
     
  8. jesusfreak666er

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    it really amazes swim how no matter the medication there is always a thread on how to stick it up ur ass... but swim degresses.

    swim believes this is not a great idea, since it is a stimulant one might shit it out before its fully absorbed... and what happened to the days when stickin shit up your nose was good enough?
     
  9. boylizard

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    those days pass when swim realizes he wants to iv but doesnt want to needle himself and risk fucking up
     
  10. Nagognog2

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    I'm waiting for one on Nitrous Oxide.

    There is no reason to worry about a cotton filter in this method. So SWIM need not go overboard. The rectum is a self-cleansing organ.
     
  11. Lehendakari

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    Yes, and tell SWIY to report the experience
     
  12. boylizard

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    haha, yeah. swim was worried about the binders possibly tearing the lining up a bit... swim understands this is no problem?

    naturally :)
     
  13. DrMuffy

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    ^^^^^
    Yes it should be fine to keep the binders and not go through the trouble of filtering them out. just think of all the other stuff that is up in SWIY's anal cavity, so binders will definatly not be a problem. Just be careful with SWIY's dosage, he should start from 1/3-1/2 his normal oral dose, and work his way up from there.
     
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    swim was debating 20 mg, was going to do it now but coming down / down from a multiple pill insufflation (were done at different times) so he is a bit leery of that. think its safe? or should swim do 10 mg instead?
     
  15. Lehendakari

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    Better be safe than sorry, although 20 mg it's a pretty safe dose, 10 will make SWIY to be more confident and "safe". Start with 10, if it's ok wait half an hour and do another 10. Don't do more than that the first time for SWIY's ass' sake:D
     
  16. boylizard

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    havent gotten the chance to yet, swim says. swim recently got arrested... complicated things. swim says he will when he gets some free time.
     
  17. pixplzthx

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    Sorry for snapping this to the top but it seemed applicable.

    The Kid Around The Corner was prescribed Ritalin™ (methylphenidate) 10 mg IR tabs (within the last three months), in order to help TKATC make the long, one hour early morning drive, to school without drifting off to sleep (or off of the road or into the next lane of traffic or into oncoming traffic or into even say… a tree). TKATC reports that 20 mg rectally feels just as equi-potent but longer lasting than the 40 mg as prescribed orally in the morning. The pills just melt inside of TKATC's oral infant syringe in just a few minutes. Please note that it is an oral syringe*; that means NO needles!)

    TKATC had heard a lot about the "cocaine feel" with an albeit, harsh and sudden comedown, to methyphenidate at 100+ oral doses and decided to plugged 60 mg at one time to get a feel for the situation (Assuming that methylpenidate has linear absorption, I'm guessing TKATC took the equivalent of 120 mg orally). To combat the comedown and/or anxiety and /or depression and /or general crappy-ness of mood and feelings, TKATC felt prepared, during the comedown and was ready post comdown of the [Ritalin™] methyphenidate), by swallowing 1 mg of Xanax™ (alprazolam) and plugged a small amount (300 mg**) of Lyrica™ (pregabalin). TKATC did agree that it was reminiscent of cocaine. (I didn't get time to onset, an actual timeframe to peak or the total duration of the cocaine-like effects. IN reality, I was too amazed that this was even attmempted and I failed to ask all of the appropriate questions.)

    No crash was reported but a very euphoric state was mentioned even during the comedown. I am guessing it was due to the lack of anxiety and jitters and etc. Besides Lyrica™ (pregabalin) can be pretty social all its own.

    I chided/scolded TKATC anyway, thinking that injury to one's self should always out-way any recreational thought processes associated with using a drug inconsistent with the intended prescribing information. I mean for someone that doesn't ever mess around with the pain meds, this really, really surprised me.

    For the first time ever, I have been fully and utterly ignored.

    Ouch. I was however given a solemn swear by TKATC, that moderation (less than once a month or school quarter) would be fully respected, though. Luckily there are no midterms this quarter; Just final projects.

    Stupid "kid" (I'm actually outgained in age by at about 5 years in the TKATC's favor.) It is just that the "man" around the corner has less of a ring to it (TMATK).

    *Note: You can fing oral syringes 10 CC for sale/free (just ask at the pharmacy's desk) at most pharmacies. Sometimes you can find the much easier to use 3 CC or 5 CC syringes at the dest free. There is a 1 CC syringe but it really won't work for beginners or in this circumstance at all. It's tough to get even 10 mg of methylphenidate in a 1 CC syringe. However, for what it is worth (somewhat unrelated) I have read that opiate users have gotten a full OC 80 in a 1 CC (to reiterate) an infant oral syringe). Some find the paste a bit "crunchy" to be suck up into the syringe.

    **Note: 300 mg of Lyrica™ (pregabalin) can be quite much for some (it may present it such as a drunken sense of well-being with some euphoria or you may just feel drunk and bump into things and fall flat on your face and need stitches to repair a hole in your face. Even better; How do you feel about false teeth?). The gengeric "you" may find that a 1/2 (150 mg) of even a quarter (75 mg) of the dose to be sufficient. The point is as always; Know your limits. Cliché Alert: You can always take more. You can never take less.)
     
  18. meth_latex_catsuit_doll

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    Dose efficiency of rectal ROA is in the order of 97% as it bypasses first pass metabolism and expedites straight into the bloodstream.

    Plugging 20mg Ritalin is a very good starting dose to get a first time experience of an expedited onset.

    meth_latex_catsuit_doll added 9 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

    > swim believes this is not a great idea, since it is a stimulant one might shit it out before its fully absorbed...

    Leaking is always a possibility, but down the road with experience it shouldn't happen. The trick is to contract the anus muscles against the syringe as it's being pulled out. It shouldn't leak. In doubt, SWIM uses a 4" Steel Butt Plug afterwards. Buttplugged, won't leak, even if trying.
     
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  19. PrinceOfTheWorld

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    Swim wants to know what part goes "in." The solution with not completely dissolved pill, the water, or both?
    Dissolved in 10ml water.