Salvia divinorum Gravity

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  1. Tavz

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    Do you experience the salvia gravity everytime youuse it? Ive smoked this 20x extract 10 times now, first time freaked me out, after that I knew what to expect and prepared accordingly. However, the constant pulling or "salvia gravity" really seems to take away from the experience, at least for me. A few times I felt like it was actually ripping me apart, and it hurt, at least I thought it did at the time.[​IMG] Anyway, so do you experience this every time you smoke it?
     
  2. Dualpower

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    I
    went through every single Salvia report on erowid a year or so ago
    noting directions and pulling feelings - the numbers are included
    if you want to look up the full report on www.Erowid.com</span></span>

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    Cheers!

    -Dual</span></span>


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    </span>Could the qualia and direction it originates
    from help isolate brain areas where Salvia is active? </span>





    Left is
    often the direction of an infinite or immense object or being unseen but felt.
    The ‘right’ direction often contains some sort of a void or vacuum. Is there an
    area in the right brain corresponding to feelings of infinity and an area in
    the left brain that deals with voids and vacuums?</span>





    Presence
    of effects seem to occur regardless of dosage. However, most trips with effects
    present were considered mind boggling and dosage can therefore be seen as
    irrelevant in light of different peoples inherent susceptibility to the drug.</span>



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    <h2>Left/Right Prevalence in Savlia Experiences:</h2>


    </span>


    ---</span>


    </span>


    ID: 3785<br style="">
    <br style="">
    </span>


    Then I
    noticed that to the left of the point in the universe where my consciousness
    was, there was a surface extending to infinity, like a massive wall, with an
    infinite number of villi-like protuberances emerging from it.
    These villi
    were other awarenesses. I noticed/felt family members and friends. Together
    we were facing the void, facing oncoming time, which was advancing from my
    right
    . The surface of this wall was in constant movement, but it wasn't as
    if anyone was moving, rather it was as if there was a constant flux of
    protuberances emerging and being re-absorbed by the surface. Life and death? I
    don't know”</span>


    </span>


    ---</span>


    </span>


    ID: 11716</span>


    </span>


    “Soon I
    become aware differently, with will, power. I stood in both realms knowing the
    room I was in and aware of the world that appeared to be above me and to the
    right. I chose to fully enter and experienced on a level of awareness that
    permiated my entire being. I was in part and the whole at once. After what felt
    to be 3 min. there was a fade I could see the room materializing
    beneath me and slightly to the left.
    Back in the room. little effect
    remained.”</span>


    </span>


    ---





    ID: 5447





    “In one direction, behind me to the right, was a roar
    of echoed sound,
    an unrecognized but too familiar voice, the echo making
    the roar a maniacal type of rhythm. In the exact opposite direction was
    where a string of christmas lights on the wall took on a the character of a
    zipper stretching to an unseen horizon
    . This zipper was an active rift in
    reality, or so it seemed, with light and energy at the seam and the darkest
    void beyond.”





    ---





    ID: 6948





    “The familiar 'twist to the right' where a feeling of a
    left-sided 'barrier' that seems to force your movement to the right appeared
    ,
    and I sat in a nearby dining room chair to orient myself.”





    ---





    ID: 6903





    During this, I could feel a distinct pulling sensation
    on the right side of my body
    , which would have been south. I sensed the
    presence of 3 beings as well, one male and two female. The male seemed the most
    dominant, and they were urging me to 'release' and 'come with us'.





    ---





    ID: 15322





    Did I say stunning immediacy? More like being shot from a
    cannon. WHAM! Suddenly, I was swept up by something on my left. It felt
    like a craft or a machine moving at light speed with incredible force. I felt
    it for an instant. I heard a young boy yell 'come here' or 'get on' before it
    zoomed off.





    ---





    ID: 15356





    I also knew I had been at this ultimatum before (wow), from
    the right I could see/feel my world /objects detaching and getting pulled into
    a void, a gap of nothing
    , I got the feeling they were getting twisted as
    they went through, I could feel nipping on the edges of me(body?) as this void
    was pulling me in too. I knew I was the last thing to go into this void the
    rest of my world was completely gone.





    ---





    ID: 6589





    I was aware of my body and my friends and my life below,
    but I was really far away. On my left side there was a being of light, an
    angel if you will
    . We were standing outside of time and outside of space.
    He began to tell me that, cosmically, I was like a baby.





    ---





    ID: 5193





    Some say it is the Death Plant and I think I know why. As
    the experience intensified I felt the buzzing vacuum feeling pulling me back
    and to my right into something I cannot explain
    . There was a visual, audio
    and tactile wave moving from North to South across the room and my body (I was
    facing East). As this was happening I really got scared as I felt the left
    side of my body being engulfed by this wave and then I rolled away from it
    fearing being pulled into what I thought was sure death
    . It was a wave just
    like the geometry of an unfolding chinese fan.





    ---





    ID: 2671





    Perhaps a minute into it, I suddenly felt as though my
    mind, my consciousness, my being, were all being stretched to my left into the
    infinity of some other, strange world
    . In that world, I sensed, not saw or
    heard or felt or anything like that, but somehow sensed the presence of two
    people, a man and a woman, and either a horse or a unicorn, I’m not sure which.
    Then, my spread legs started to form the beginnings of a V-shape like that of a
    partially opened book, and these extended into infinity and divided the world
    into three parts. The people and the horse were still there, as was the
    sensation of pressure.





    ---





    ID: 5778





    </span>At this point I
    noticed that a perfect plane was dividing my room in half, bisecting my head.
    It was not really a plane that was visibly there, but I could SENSE it very
    strongly. Everything on one side of the plane was being pushed in one
    direction, and everything on the other side was being pushed the other way
    .
    I could feel my head splitting in half along the axis of the plane, but it did
    not hurt, it just made me laugh harder.





    ---





    ID: 245





    </span>As I was standing
    up from my chair, I immediately felt that 'down' was to my left, and that
    the entire room was in essence on it's side
    . Even though I was standing on
    the wall (in my newfound reality), this seemed perfectly normal to me. Once I
    deemed this to be 'correct,' it was like it opened up my mind to even more of
    this strange new place. I knew I was in a garden, the idea of my room being
    enclosed was totally gone from my mind. My computer desk and its contents
    remained, but all the walls now extended outwards into a bright, very green
    garden with a white gazebo off to my left (which put it 'down' from me, with
    this entire place still being on the 'wall' I was standing on).
    It wasn't
    that I could actually see this so much as I just knew it was there, that this
    is where I was supposed to be, not my room.





    --//--





    I walked into the bathroom, which brought my vision across
    a mirror.


    --//--

    </span>

    Then it dawned on me that the person I was looking at *wasn't* me - somehow
    I existed as a separate entity from my body, which was floating/existing over
    my body's left shoulder
    . Analyzing this brought me to the strange situation
    I was currently in; I was somehow existing in 3 different places
    simultaneously, as a body, mind/consciousness (shoulder-entity), and spectator.
    My body was able to use all of its functions, but only if my consciousness
    decided to tell the body to do it, and the body decided to go along with
    entity's suggestion. The shoulder-entity, which seemed to equate to my
    consciousness, seemed to be performing 2 separate functions - commanding and
    narrating to my third-self. The third me was a spectator somewhere back and
    to my left, behind both the consciousness-me and the body-me.






    ---





    ID: 2315





    When I moved my head, it was like looking into different
    worlds, but my eyes were closed the whole time. Because of the collapsing
    realities, I had the feeling of a reality moving up at my right side and moving
    through me
    . It was like being trapped with half the body in the ground.
    Physical laws like 'Where one body is, there can't be another one' lost their
    validity.





    ---





    ID:5628




    Then I found myself outside of the growing crystal palace, with the woman

    and man present (I couldn't always see them though). Then she said something
    amazing: 'That is your mind. Isn't it beautiful?' (note that this is only
    paraphrase.. she said this without 'speaking') She said and I found that deeply
    erotic, as if she loved my mind. I thought 'where is the sadness?' And she
    gestured to the lower left of the place which black and pulsing.. above the
    black was the most beautiful part of the palace and she implied that the
    sadness gave life to the more beautiful parts of my 'palace.'
    This was
    fascinating and I went through what seemed like an eternity watching the beauty
    spring from the dark. This part was the most moving aspect of the trip, I am
    quite at peace now. The images of the aqua-glowing-spiraling-growing crystals
    springing from my sadness was intense and I hope I don't forget this.





    ---





    ID: 6559





    There was a force pulling me to my right (west)… it was
    like waves of force, but at minimum strength it was still pulling me
    . And I
    wanted to go… in fact, somehow I knew that I wanted to go, it was not a
    decision, it was just how it was. My movement was not physical, but I was
    perceiving it as spacial, but in the new “space” I was, and not only to the
    right, but it was kind of circular… “right” and then “down”… it was very like a
    clock hand moving from 12 to 1, 2
    ,…. But this direction description is, in
    fact, not that important…





    ---





    ID: 307





    After about 3 bong loads of the extract, I just sat
    staring at the bong until it and the carpet and walls all became a similar,
    rectangular pattern. Then I heard a voice (I interpreted it as the plant
    itself), literally heard a real voice from my right side whisper 'Hey you.'
    I
    responded (in my head) 'Yes?' This next part blew my mind. It said 'Mine', and
    a hand came out from underneath me and grabbed towards some leaves that had
    fallen around the base of the bong. It then slowly pulled away.





    ---





    ID: 939





    As I was counting to 30, I suddenly forgot why I was
    holding my breath and felt that I could get away with exhaling early and nobody
    would know the difference. But then I remembered that 'they' told me to hold
    my breath (I associated 'they' with my left side) and I couldn't get away with
    cheating (my devious will was my right side).
    This all happened over about
    5 seconds. After exhaling, I seemed to be in a familiar place and the
    snickering I heard was the voices of the 'Salvia people,' as my mind deemed fit
    to call them. After about 30 seconds, I felt this current of some sort
    trying to pull me to the right. It was like the right side of my body,
    especially my face, was being sucked by a huge vacuum or something.
    Very
    weird, but all this weirdness passed in about 5 minutes.





    ---





    ID:894





    That wasn't so bad, but the somatic/bodily effects caught
    me completely unprepared. It was as if i was split in two; right brain/left
    brain and their corresponding body parts became essentially two different
    entities, independent of one another.
    Imagine, if you will, a single entity
    consisting of a leg, some torso, and an arm, connected to a relatively
    identical, yet opposite entity by what felt to be mere elastic material (skin).





    ---





    ID: 5407





    I then became aware of a large black woman (I felt this
    more than saw it) on the patio of a house with orange tiled flooring that had
    little geometric patterns in it, and a trellis with vines growing on it to the
    right of my field of feeling/vision
    . It was warm and the sun was shining
    (sorry for all the detail, but it helps me remember). She leaned in very close
    to my face, and told me “you’re not supposed to be here” or something to that
    effect. By this point, I was feeling VERY uncomfortable, and I told my
    friend that I wanted to go outside for a walk, thinking that the woman
    literally meant I wasn’t supposed to be in the house.






    ---





    ID: 3037





    What I felt that day was an invisible weight forcing my
    perception of reality to skew to the left and down, someone has tweaked my
    vertical hold knobbed much too far. I could sense myself hovering half in and
    half out of my body, with darkness filling out my right side.
    Slimey pins
    and needles tingled in my arms and legs for 10-15 minutes. I felt very cold,
    although I was sweating profusely. At this stage, there was a lot of confusion,
    loss of memory.





    ---





    ID: 8092





    It felt like I was split all the way up through my left
    leg to about the chest, and then duplicated outwards, forming a star-like shape
    with my upper body as the center.
    At the same time, I had a closed-eye
    vision of this shape. At the same time, I was laughing hysterically for most of
    the duration of the trip and also sweating profusely.




    ---






    ID: 1160 (see also salvia & language)





    …i feel compelled to stand and am afraid to. i realise
    that the compulsion is a physical one; a force, an cool, needley upward
    heaviness is gathered like a stormdriven tide in the tops of my arms and legs
    and shoulders.
    i remember thinking for an instant that the force was
    significantly stronger in my left arm around the wrist. at that point i looked
    up from my almost-sitting body and observe the faint, pellucid figure of the
    Virgin, her head shrouded, holding my arm
    and exhorting me telepathically,
    yet not paraverbally -- rather, through an unknown language that i apprehended
    perfectly…





    ---





    ID: 4834





    At this point my memories become very blurred. I think I
    smoked the whole cone, but cannot be sure. The first memory I have in this
    period is of a sort of tunnel of people slowly building in front and to the
    left of me.






    ---





    ID: 436 (see also language)





    I decided it was my turn so I took a hit and instantaneously
    I looked to my right and saw a huge vanilla ice cream with a cherry on top,
    sitting on the horizon.
    I just became completely over whelmed and fell
    over to my left in the snow.
    I tryed to get back up but was unable in
    succeding for what seemed a minute or two.





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    ID: 3003



    i sat alone in my dark apartment
    listening to Aphex Twin, hitting the bong one good time i recall thinking to
    myself i should have a sitter. by this time it was too late. my body grew numb
    and i remeber feeling only my right side still in reality, whereas my left
    side felt like it was being pulled away from me.
    shortly after i began to
    feel more nervous, but excited.



    ---



    ID: 6278



    I noticed three illuminated circles level with my feet and eyes at the same
    time. I couldn't work out whether these circles were in fact circles or
    objects/entities much more intricately detailed but seen from a distance. One
    of the circles was pulling at the other two, it seemed that the circles were in
    fact parts of me but this was not important, this was all me. To the upper
    left(best I can do) I felt a 'portal'(not really an adequate description- more
    like a knowing that up there was more) of some description and to the bottom
    was where I now seemed to be.
    Two of the circles were pulling me(physically
    tugging me), toward the portal and the other was holding/tugging me back.
    I
    was a little apprehensive about going all the way and I also seemed to think I
    hadn't done enough of it to let go. I heard/felt/saw the presence of my sisters
    again and the circles vanished I was back as quickly as I had gone. I was still
    a little high but was able to function almost as normal. I had been lying down
    for about 15 minutes.



    ---



    ID: 498



    I then found myself looking
    to my right side at what seemed to me a light bluish/green pale plane. I
    immideatly knew that this 'plane' was another reality, another 'world'. To my
    left, I then saw Bobby.
    Realizing he was here, I tried to explain to him
    that there was another world beside me. The other world was calling me, inviting
    me to come to it, I did not know however how i would get there. I then
    suddlenly felt torn. I saw Bobby, and I wanted him to come to this other world
    with me, however; I knew he was not allowed. I sat there thinking what to do,
    and trying to explain to Bobby what was happening. I felt a 'presence' from the
    other world that was 'calling' me to it. Also, whenever I spoke, I heard an
    almost mocking voice, something/someone repeating every word I said a few
    seconds after i said them. This voice was coming from deep within the plane.




    ---



    ID: 3319



    I no longer have eyes, but rather clarity of being which is so infinite
    that nothing is beyond my sight. Knowledge and lucid sensations have replaced
    my vision. I am in the presence of a vast plane. There is constant motion along
    the surface that produces a consciousness of life so strong that I cannot fully
    appreciate it. I too feel the motion of the plane, but my sensation is still
    grounded in the mortal world. The body that I have not completely
    transcended is being pulled to the left.
    I realize that I am still bound to
    what I now conceive as the mortal plane.




    (Other Directions)</font></span>





    ID: 5112


    Before I had even put the pipe on the table, i didn't know
    what 'me' or 'pipe' or 'salvia' were. I felt a tremendous force pulling me
    backwards - gravity had changed its centre of action, and it was now behind me
    instead of below me.






    ID: 6946


    The audio hallucinations made me think that Jimi
    Hendrix was playing behind me but I was unable to turn around and watch.









    Forces and Directions


    </span>


    </span>Forces
    can come from any direction and usually compel or demand a person move in a
    certain direction. Many times forces are compared to gravity greatly
    exaggerated.






    ID: ?





    There was some kind of force field not unlike gravitation
    pulling me strongly in a certain direction. I felt like this field was forcing
    me to go to its source which was not inside the room but outside. This forcing
    felt quite unconfortable, and I felt kind of possesed by something.





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    ID: 10562





    I got this really weird feeling in my head. It was
    being pulled, or rather it felt as though there was something on the sides of
    my head, so I could only move it up and down or backwards and forwards but
    couldn´t turn
    . It´s hard to explain, these restrictions were as strong
    as steel plates
    , but at the same time I knew it was a channel in the air in
    which I had been placed. I moved my head in a nodding motion for a few moments,
    just to try this out, and because I felt I had to, and then took my third hit.





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    ID: 6004





    I felt it before I even finished inhaling. It was like the
    upper half of my body instantly weighed thousands of pounds, and gravity had
    switched itself to a position behind me. I was pulled back down onto the
    bed, but still felt like my body was being pulled torwards the wall behind me.
    Like something was trying to pull me away from myself.









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  3. Curtains

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    i experince everytime when i smoke it, last time i smoked it in this forest and started getting the pulling feeling and walked right in the middle of this pricker bush shouting "this is my home" over and over, needless to say when i came down i was in alot of pain
     
  4. cyalume

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    salvia gravity is quite interesting... almost like hands pulling you to the ground. In fact i would say its one of the things i find most interesting about savlia is the almost physical pull to the ground i always get when smoking it. I seriously always think that somebody is pulling me down at the time but i know its just savlia pulling me down so i can go on a vision quest safely without stumbling about.
     
  5. Tavz

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    See with me if im sitting up it pulls me to either the left or right, if I lay down it pulls me up and to the left. I only stood up once while on it and about stumbled across the room. Now I turn off all the lights, turn on a lava lamp, make sure I have somewhere to set me pipe down, take a few hits and either lay back or sit up. I enjoy Salvia, just not so muchthe pulling sensation, it freaks me out everytime I do it. Oh well I guess.


    And thanks Dualpower for posting all those experiences.
     
  6. Guest

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    i only tried salvia once. I experienced the pulling sensation, it was very painful, i felt a very intsense painful pressure on my entire right side. I found that part to be very unpleasant.
     
  7. sunyata

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    I've experienced this gravity every time I've smoked it. It allways goes from right to left in my case, and it feels like a half-circle pushing me up on my right and down on the left. To me that's fascinating, because the only visions I've hadon Salvia has been of this half-circle. Maybe it has something to do with something, then again, what would that be? I haven't tried it in many years now, since it is a prescription drug(for what, I don't know) in Norway. It's not my cup of tea anyway, I feel really uncomfortable on it, except for the first two minutes when I'm usually laughing uncontrollably.